Thursday OT
March 20, 2014 5:44 AM - BirdnestHead

March 20, 2014 5:44 AM - BirdnestHead
GM. Let's go somewhere!
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March 20, 2014 6:54 AM - Partridge

That was the longest, cruelest winter of our discontent.
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March 20, 2014 7:17 AM - dibs
GM, Happy Spring
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March 20, 2014 7:41 AM - Cobble B. Hiller

Happy Spring, Happy Vernal Equinox! It was a rather vicious winter.
March 20, 2014 7:47 AM - BirdnestHead
Equinox at 1:57 pm today...

Ooops, sorry make that 11:57 or 16:57 Zulu...
March 20, 2014 7:48 AM - Deleted
GM. my day off. taking Br'andi to say hi to people at the wife's work then doing some baby proofing (anchoring furniture to walls, moving some pots and pans from low shelves, putting away the fireplace tools and covering the wood, etc. etc etc this house of mine is a baby deathtrap!) then beers and babies around 3pm. i may not be able to comment much, hope dave and Dh are OK without me.

in other news, cnn is officially retarded.

"‘Is It Preposterous’ to Think a Black Hole Caused Flight 370 to Go Missing?"
March 20, 2014 7:50 AM - dibs
Black Hole

March 20, 2014 7:50 AM - Deleted
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March 20, 2014 7:53 AM - Deleted

March 20, 2014 7:54 AM - Deleted
covering the wood

March 20, 2014 7:57 AM - dibs
I did a three way in Singapore once.
March 20, 2014 7:57 AM - dibs
And randi is rather obtuse, so there's that.
March 20, 2014 7:57 AM - BirdnestHead
Maybe in addition to the Bermuda Triangle, there's a Singapore Triangle...

Like, Singapore-Bangkok-Saigon (or whatever it's called now)
March 20, 2014 7:58 AM - dibs
Ho Chi Minh City
March 20, 2014 7:59 AM - BirdnestHead
Aren't 3-ways punishable by death in Singapore, or is that just for making fun of the King?
March 20, 2014 7:59 AM - Partridge
"covering the wood"
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March 20, 2014 8:01 AM - BirdnestHead

March 20, 2014 8:02 AM - dibs
80 foot object spotted by satellite in the Indian Ocean, 1500 miles SW of Perth
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March 20, 2014 8:02 AM - Deleted
Modern life
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March 20, 2014 8:05 AM - dibs
If the pilot actually did this, he has really thought it through so that we may never know really what happened.
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March 20, 2014 8:05 AM - BirdnestHead
One of Putin's balls fell off while attempting annexation of Australia...
March 20, 2014 8:06 AM - Deleted
Whoa that's way off course.
March 20, 2014 8:08 AM - dibs
Well, you have to remember that it has also been floating in currents for 10 days
March 20, 2014 8:11 AM - BirdnestHead
Agreed, R'andi, one would have expected one to fall off just north of New Guinea...
March 20, 2014 8:12 AM - dibs
He doesn't know where that is.
March 20, 2014 8:14 AM - Partridge
floating, really?
March 20, 2014 8:14 AM - BirdnestHead
Google maps...
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March 20, 2014 8:15 AM - dibs
The composite "skin" of planes is very light.
March 20, 2014 8:15 AM - BoerumHillScott
Nice commute.
The 2 train pulled into the station as I was going though the turnstyles and had pleny of free seats.
The PATH train pulled in as I was walking down the platform.

March 20, 2014 8:16 AM - Deleted
Dibs, Bnh and I are having a talk please stay out of it.
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March 20, 2014 8:17 AM - dibs
Buy a Lotto ticket, Scott
March 20, 2014 8:18 AM - BoerumHillScott
There are also void spaces in the wings and tail that in theory could float, but I have doubts that something that size would have survived the crash in a condition to float.
March 20, 2014 8:20 AM - BirdnestHead
They'll make anything into a musical these days. Just saw ad for "Bridges of Madison County". Ack gak.
March 20, 2014 8:22 AM - BirdnestHead
So R'andi, does your firm need a CTO? Oh. Are you in a firm, or freelance?
March 20, 2014 8:22 AM - Deleted

Where's dh?
March 20, 2014 8:24 AM - Deleted
I am freelance as are most of the other 50 or so employees. I believe all the tech is outsourced to various companies. Someone called digital healer does the phones and Internet. They Suck, as does our Internet.
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March 20, 2014 8:27 AM - BirdnestHead
Hmmm. Is it time for a "Float deez nutz"?
March 20, 2014 8:27 AM - Deleted

March 20, 2014 8:28 AM - BirdnestHead
Too bad. Oh well, off to the salt mines... Later!
March 20, 2014 8:31 AM - BirdnestHead
Digital Healer = Homeopathic Ethernet ?
March 20, 2014 8:33 AM - dibs
BnH, did you not hear? I have put the salt mine out of business with my artisinal salt farm.
March 20, 2014 8:50 AM - dibs
Media interviewing all sorts of "experts" asking them what's seen on the ocean. All of them give the same response that there may or may not be something there and no one will know until they get closer. Then they ask the same question two more times.


And then we are subject to 5 more minutes of their mindless "analysis"
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March 20, 2014 8:54 AM - petebklyn
so keep watching
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March 20, 2014 9:00 AM - dibs
You watching the lake thaw, Pete????
March 20, 2014 9:04 AM - Deleted
Haha Pete I said the same thing when he bitched about it yesterday.
March 20, 2014 9:24 AM - Deleted
March 20, 2014 9:25 AM - Deleted
I think we should search for pieces of the missing Malaysian jet when we have our expedition to Jamaica Bay. Maybe we can get CNN to cover it.
March 20, 2014 9:31 AM - Deleted
hahaha that's a good idea benson.
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March 20, 2014 9:32 AM - Deleted
does no one watch CNN anymore because it actually sucks, or everyone watches the highly partisan cable news channels now?
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March 20, 2014 9:35 AM - Deleted
You really want to watch something insufferable? CNN International. When I used to go overseas a lot of hotels had it. Think of it as a 24/7 politically-correct corporate "diversity" seminar.
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March 20, 2014 9:36 AM - rf
CNN’s Ratings Surge Covering the Mystery of the Missing Airliner
March 20, 2014 9:37 AM - dibs
I don't actually watch ANY cable news channels except CNBC and I watch BBC America and PBS in the evening.
March 20, 2014 9:38 AM - dibs
Yeah benson, the news channels outside the country are like and endless loop of the same crap.
March 20, 2014 9:39 AM - dibs
I wonder how many Americans still cannot find Malaysia on a map.
March 20, 2014 9:39 AM - Deleted
i'm still waiting for a reason why i should even know where malaysia is
March 20, 2014 9:40 AM - rf
PBS is not a cable channel.
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March 20, 2014 9:42 AM - Deleted
"i'm still waiting for a reason why i should even know where malaysia is"

It's where most electronic devices are assembled these days, both for the consumer and IT sectors. Look at the back of your TV and it will most likely say "Made in Malaysia"
March 20, 2014 9:42 AM - rf
Lots of Malaysian-Chinese-Americans in Chinatown.
March 20, 2014 9:44 AM - dibs
"I don't actually watch ANY cable news channels except CNBC and I watch BBC America and PBS in the evening."

"PBS is not a cable channel."

The addition of what I watch in the evening did not imply they were cable. Your reading needs to be more focused.

March 20, 2014 9:44 AM - dibs
Malaysians have annoying accents VERY similar to Singaporeans.
March 20, 2014 9:46 AM - Deleted
I went to Malaysia twice in my old job, as we were supplying parts to one of the contract manufacturing services. Humid as hell. The interesting thing is that they have their own form of apartheid there. The ethnic Malays are almost 100% muslim and they hold all of the political power. There is a large ethnic Chinese sector that is socially distinct - they still speak Chinese and they go to their own schools. They are constitutionally kept out of political power, but they run all the businesses there. Of course, this form of apartheid is of no interest to liberals here since it doesn't involve whites.
March 20, 2014 9:47 AM - Deleted
Malaysian food? I've never had it.
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March 20, 2014 9:49 AM - dibs
Also, those Chinese Malaysians are in a minority but control the majority of the wealth, as you alluded to when you said they "run all the businesses there."

It too is a Tale of Two Cities.
March 20, 2014 9:50 AM - dibs
One of the best street food dishes I ever had was in Kuala Lumpur. it was sauteed chicken livers in some sort of a ricee pasta. Excellent.

March 20, 2014 9:51 AM - rf
There is a lot of intermarriage between Malaysian Chinese and Malaysian Muslims. We were good friends for a long time with the family of a kid my daughter went to elementary school with in Chinatown. The mom was Malaysian Muslim and many people in her family had married Malaysian Chinese people.

The dad was Iranian-American and his family in Iran thought she was not kosher/halal because she, along with other Muslims in Malaysia, cooks and eats shellfish.
March 20, 2014 9:53 AM - Deleted
Is a Panang curry Malaysian?
March 20, 2014 9:54 AM - Deleted

That's a nice story. Now, do you really wish to argue with what I wrote above based upon your encounter in Chinatown here? Is it a fact or not that the Chinese in Malaysia are deliberately kept out of political power, and are generally socially segregated via the school system?
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March 20, 2014 9:55 AM - dibs
Yes, Penang is a state in malaysia with an eponymous island …where the big gambling casinos are located…Genting Highlands, primarily
March 20, 2014 9:56 AM - dibs
Actually benson, I think their school systems are segregated because they prefer it that way. But yes, they are deliberately kept out of political power.
March 20, 2014 9:56 AM - Deleted

I'll leave you to argue with Ms. Google. I'm sure she's surfing right now, in her never-ending quest to quibble.
March 20, 2014 9:57 AM - dibs
Thanks a lot benson. I'll remeber that the next time I see you. LOL
March 20, 2014 9:58 AM - Deleted
"Actually benson, I think their school systems are segregated because they prefer it that way."

Yes, that's what I was saying above.
March 20, 2014 9:59 AM - dibs
And the gay Chinese Malaysians do not go to the same gay bar as the gay Malays.
March 20, 2014 10:00 AM - rf

Tell me about your deep knowledge of Malaysia, Benson.
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March 20, 2014 10:03 AM - dibs
I bet she never read down as far as "Chinese Independent High Schools"
March 20, 2014 10:05 AM - rf
A matter of choice, as you said above, Dave.,

Now the Chinese dilemma, sharing or grabbing power, says Dr Mahathir
March 20, 2014 10:05 AM - Deleted
Err, Ms. Google, perhaps you should have read that article after it showed up on the top of your search list. Here is an excerpt:

Public primary schools are divided into two categories based on the medium of instruction:
Malay-medium National Schools (Sekolah Kebangsaan, SK)
non-Malay-medium National-type Schools (Sekolah Jenis Kebangsaan, SJK), also known as "vernacular schools",[7] further divided into National-type School (Chinese) (Sekolah Jenis Kebangsaan (Cina), SJK(C)), Mandarin-medium and simplified Chinese writing
National-type School (Tamil) (Sekolah Jenis Kebangsaan (Tamil), SJK (T)), Tamil-medium

All schools admit students regardless of racial and language background."

Furthermore, as DIBS and I were just discussing, most of the Chinese there avoid the public schools altogether. They send their kids to private Chinese schools.
March 20, 2014 10:07 AM - dibs
Yup….that article doesn't cover private schools.
March 20, 2014 10:07 AM - Deleted

She's unbelievable, isn't she? We've both been there and broken bread with folks there, but she's going to argue with us based upon a family she knows in Chinatown and surfing the internet.
March 20, 2014 10:09 AM - rf
The family lives in Staten Island.
March 20, 2014 10:11 AM - dibs
LOL, benson.
March 20, 2014 10:12 AM - rf
So it's not anecdotal, Benson, if you break bread with someone in Malaysia and I had a 4-year social relationship with a family in Staten Island, during which I met various relatives who came to NYC to visit or study from Malaysia and then went back to Malaysia to marry and live?

The mom worked at the Malaysian Consulate to the U.N. which is how she wound up in NYC.
March 20, 2014 10:14 AM - dibs
This has become an asinine conversation because of your quibbling and nitpicking, rf. The fact of the matter is that the Chinese would prefer, if they can afford it and most can, to send their children to different schools. Despoite the situation of your SI friends, there is still a lot of prejudice in that country between the haves and the have nots, the former mostly being Chinese and the latter Malays, who are in the majority, control the government and give themselves all sirts of benefits that the Chinese are not party to.

I've been investing there since 1990.

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March 20, 2014 10:18 AM - rf
Oh, investing. Another way to know about the social fabric of a country.
March 20, 2014 10:33 AM - Deleted
March 20, 2014 10:47 AM - petebklyn
since all of you are so well-versed on Malaysia -- tell us where the plane went.
March 20, 2014 10:48 AM - Partridge
Isn't Malaysia humid? Wouldn't hell be dry? ; )
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March 20, 2014 10:51 AM - dibs
I guess you know nothing of the decision processes that go into country investing. But a sample size of one from a family who doesnt even live there anymore is so much more useful as compared to me having been there maybe a dozen times.

I think you should quit before you dig a deeper hole
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March 20, 2014 10:51 AM - Deleted
I remember that I showered up there after work and decided to go for a walk before dinner. Bad move. I was sweaty again after only one block.
March 20, 2014 10:52 AM - Deleted
"tell us where the plane went."

Dead Horse Bay
March 20, 2014 10:54 AM - Partridge
"1500 miles SW of Perth" - Dibs @ 8:02. Keep up, Pete!
March 20, 2014 10:55 AM - dibs
I showered once in the singapore Airllines lounge with a relatively well known Malaysian chef. He was bumi ( malay)
March 20, 2014 10:56 AM - dibs
And the " Penang " resaurants in NYC are also owned by a gay malay (rhymes) whom i also slept with once
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March 20, 2014 10:57 AM - petebklyn
so which group is better sex, dibs?
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March 20, 2014 10:58 AM - dibs
Maybe the malays but cant really remember. Just remember the last guy i spent time with there. He was malay but has been told that he looked mexican, which he did.
March 20, 2014 11:01 AM - Deleted
The other thing I remember about Malaysia is that many Malay women, while generally devout Muslims, wear a colorful hijab and even a bit of make-up. It makes quite a difference when compared to the drab black number in the more stern countries.
March 20, 2014 11:03 AM - rf
Penang on the Upper West Side closed last year.
March 20, 2014 11:04 AM - dibs
Also, i just remembered that the last time i was there i stayed at the newly opened ritz carlton hotel and had a very proper spaghetti carbonara
March 20, 2014 11:05 AM - dibs
Never ate at that one.
March 20, 2014 11:05 AM - dibs
But, since we are comparing, the Thais are better than the Malaysians
March 20, 2014 11:06 AM - dibs
and the singaporeans, despite being better educated, are the least likely to practice safe sex, which was always surprising to me.
March 20, 2014 11:07 AM - Deleted
I have no insights to offer about sex in southeast Asia (H or NH).
March 20, 2014 11:07 AM - dibs
But i suspect that the singaporean government took a long time to educate people about that, unlike in thailand
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March 20, 2014 11:09 AM - dibs
Im at penn station now. Does anyone have an update on the plane?????
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March 20, 2014 11:12 AM - petebklyn
no update but the weather looks good.
March 20, 2014 11:15 AM - dibs
Supposed to be 60° in bucks on saturday. Time to take the Christmas decoratio s down and maybe even put the screen door on
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March 20, 2014 11:16 AM - dibs
Actually al roker was covering the weather in the indian ocean this morning so we have that to look forward to as well
March 20, 2014 11:33 AM - dibs
I'm not going to dare ask the cafe woman if she is open yet. She looks like she would break me in half.
March 20, 2014 11:36 AM - Deleted
Drinking already Dibs?
March 20, 2014 11:38 AM - dibs
Yes. The coffee on Amtrak is actually pretty good.
March 20, 2014 11:39 AM - Deleted
If you're used to keurig anything will taste good.
March 20, 2014 11:41 AM - dibs
I bet this'll taste good to you….
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March 20, 2014 11:46 AM - Deleted
March 20, 2014 11:47 AM - MontroseMorris
So rf's stories should be dismissed as mere anecdotes, and dismissable, but Benson's stories about union members getting vast salaries, or people he meets in his social club who brag about their overtime or other offenses are gospel truth pertaining to the entire subject matter? Ok, got it.

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March 20, 2014 11:48 AM - dibs
As opposed to New Cock, errrrr, I mean Coke.
March 20, 2014 11:49 AM - dibs
You're catching on, MM. Baby steps.
March 20, 2014 11:49 AM - Deleted
^^^Mean Girl Defense Syndrome.

To which I say: nah-nah-na-na-nah!!
March 20, 2014 11:52 AM - dibs
Looks like there are a couple more newbies over there who just fell off the turnip truck probably thanks to the NY Times storyy>>>>>>>>>

In the PS Condo conversion thread
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March 20, 2014 11:53 AM - Deleted
I get a major whif of sexism in the way Dibs and Benson treat Rf.
March 20, 2014 11:54 AM - dibs
We treat you the same way when you're being ridiculous. You're just too dumb to notice.

March 20, 2014 11:55 AM - dibs
Oh, and get a whiff of this
March 20, 2014 11:55 AM - Deleted
I get a major laugh out of people who try to play the race or sex card to stifle discussion.
March 20, 2014 11:57 AM - Deleted
It was just an observation, I have no stake in yalls stupid Malaysia argument.
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March 20, 2014 11:58 AM - dibs
Sometimes I try and go light on Pepper because she's the weaker sex and can't defend herself.

(runs for cover)
March 20, 2014 11:58 AM - Deleted
Thanks for the observation.
March 20, 2014 11:59 AM - dibs
It's just Malacca that randi is here to police the thread
March 20, 2014 12:04 PM - dibs
Holy mother of god…..
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March 20, 2014 12:04 PM - Deleted
Do what you want, just know that to others you sound like chauvinist pigs :)
March 20, 2014 12:06 PM - dibs
No one attacked her as a woman or made any misogynist remark, randi.
March 20, 2014 12:06 PM - MontroseMorris
You played the race card first today, Benson, with that little comment about "diversity." And I'm quite sick of both you and Dave. You are both mean spirited, petty, condescending and nasty. You never even WANT a real discussion, and both of you are incapable of having one without resorting to infantile displays of personal bile or snits of self righteous indignation.

Every day, it's a battle, every comment from those of us who happen to disagree about anything becomes an excuse for some nasty little dig. It's not a discussion, it's an excuse to say mean stuff to people who used to be able to get along relatively well. I don't know what happened, but this place is getting more toxic every day, and certainly less enjoyable.
March 20, 2014 12:06 PM - rf
I'm sure that some of their best friends are women.
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March 20, 2014 12:10 PM - dibs
And i don't leer at women in a sexual way and think impure thoughts of them like most men will. An occassional boob grab will suffice.
March 20, 2014 12:12 PM - Deleted

Montrose, are you really going to tell me that this comment was mean-spirited???

"Think of it as a 24/7 politically-correct corporate "diversity" seminar."

Note the qualifiers.

OK, time for lunch.
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March 20, 2014 12:14 PM - dibs
Ludicrous, benson. Unfortunately that's her way…to always read far more into something than is really there.
March 20, 2014 12:17 PM - dibs
So, how 'bout this year's American Idol? Pretty lame, huh????
March 20, 2014 12:19 PM - rf
Dave, what do you think of The Good Wife this season?
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March 20, 2014 12:21 PM - dibs
I like it. Lots more intrigue, lying, and despicable behavior.
March 20, 2014 12:29 PM - dibs
Tonight's tasting menu at Vetri…..

DI PESCE (fish)
osso di mammut lanoso
diver scallop and persimmon crudo
bocconcini di baccala
pappardelle with cockles and tardivo
whole fish “secondo il mercato”

DI VERDURE (vegetable)
sweet onion crepe with white truffle
spinach gnocchi with brown butter
almond tortellini with white truffle
ricotta ravioli with wild pecan
lasagna alla giudia

DI TERRA (from the earth)
tortellini pie
smoked canada goose stuffed endive
chestnut fettuccine with wild boar ragu
roasted capretto with stone milled polenta
milk braised lamb with mint
March 20, 2014 12:33 PM - dibs
"lasagna alla giudia"

might be very interesting. The "giudia" part most likely refers to "Carciofi alla giudia" or Jewish style artichokes. the best artichoke dishes in Rome are always in the Jewish section restaurants.
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March 20, 2014 12:39 PM - dibs
Since we both like tripe, the "pajata" might be good. I've never heard that word before…."Pajata is the term for the intestines of an "un-weaned" calf, i.e., only fed on its mother's milk."
March 20, 2014 12:41 PM - Deleted
Wuts this?

smoked canada goose stuffed endive
March 20, 2014 12:41 PM - Deleted
from what i hear vetri is legit.
March 20, 2014 12:42 PM - Deleted
I'm not a huge fan of offal.
March 20, 2014 12:42 PM - dibs
Two different dishes, randi
March 20, 2014 12:43 PM - Deleted
Dibs comments are often offal
March 20, 2014 12:44 PM - Deleted
Who cares what you hear dh. Derp!
March 20, 2014 12:44 PM - Deleted
Yeah I know two dishes, but neither one is clear to me.
March 20, 2014 12:45 PM - dibs
I just described pajata above. The other one is pretty self explanatory
March 20, 2014 12:46 PM - dibs
smaoked canada goose stuffed endive

Probably endive suiffed with smoked Canada goose.
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March 20, 2014 12:46 PM - dibs
"Possibly the best Italian Restaurant in America"

-Bon Appetit
March 20, 2014 12:47 PM - Deleted
You're impossible to have a conversation with Dave. Fuck off.
March 20, 2014 12:48 PM - Deleted
This day is not going very well, is it?
March 20, 2014 12:50 PM - dibs
I tell you what randi. I'll ask them tonight and let you know.

But I'm sure they are going to say that it's endive stuffed with smoked Canadian goose"

Maybe there's an additional sauce.

They will look at me like I'm a moron for asking it though.

it would be like asking what "spaghetti and meat balls" is
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March 20, 2014 12:52 PM - dibs
OK….coming intoPhilly
March 20, 2014 12:59 PM - Partridge
Is it Spring yet?????
March 20, 2014 1:04 PM - dibs
Looks like cherry trees here are about to bud
March 20, 2014 1:06 PM - Deleted
"Is it Spring yet?????"

Seems like the dead of winter in here!
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March 20, 2014 1:09 PM - Deleted
My question was really about stuffed endive, not something that I'm familiar with. Guess that makes me a moron. Derp.

No wonder it's dead in here, you say anything and dibs or Rob or someone is gonna jump all over your.
March 20, 2014 1:11 PM - dibs
I don't really care for endive so on not going to order it. Its rather bitter
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March 20, 2014 1:26 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I love endive. I have a great endive salad recipe. If I. Can dig it out, I'll share it.

Btw, endive was impossible to find in DP. Much easier over near Boring Hill.
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March 20, 2014 1:26 PM - More4Less
The Malaysian restaurant on thru the alley on Bowery st (near canal street) is very good.
March 20, 2014 1:26 PM - Partridge
Having had goose for the first time last Christmas at Reynard (wonderful meal!) I can see it being a good combo with endive. Goose is rich and the endive, if roasted or braised, caramelizes wonderfully. Combined it is complex, bitter-sweet decadence.
March 20, 2014 1:30 PM - dibs
Ughhhhhhh Just got home and found Howard in ben's cat bed. Howard never goes in it unless Ben is there. he misses him, I'm sure
March 20, 2014 1:33 PM - Partridge
Did you really think he wouldn't notice? His brother is in a shelter...
March 20, 2014 1:37 PM - dibs
Knew he would notice. When Cody the Burmese lost Maxwell he'd stand at the top of the stairs howling for him which he never ever did before
March 20, 2014 1:41 PM - RowerChick
I'm sorta bummed right now. I have a friend who's just coming back to the music scene. 15-20 years ago she had promising, interesting vocals in jazz standards. Her phrasing and pitch were great and she stuck to the great jazz standard composers.
Her new cd is all her own songs, kinda bland new-agey rock. Bleach.
March 20, 2014 1:44 PM - dibs
Incredible BH HOTD. Stunning. Exactly my style
March 20, 2014 1:45 PM - dibs
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March 20, 2014 1:47 PM - Deleted
I can't envision one watching "Jeopardy" in those rooms.
March 20, 2014 1:51 PM - Deleted
Ugly decor imho.
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March 20, 2014 1:53 PM - petebklyn
you going to offer full asking price?
March 20, 2014 1:56 PM - Deleted
7.3 is a lot of cheddah.
March 20, 2014 1:56 PM - dibs
" An addition on the top of the house is used as a TV room and gym with a wet bar. Outside, there is a terrace and a view."

I'm sure there are at least two rooms with TVs. i never had a TV in my front parlour in Bed Stuy. God forbid.
March 20, 2014 1:58 PM - Deleted
For 7mm I want a pool and a garage.
March 20, 2014 2:00 PM - dibs
Yeah, at least a garage.
March 20, 2014 2:01 PM - dibs
"This area is not far from Perth Australia relative to the rest of the world"

Do these people ever listen to themselves????????
March 20, 2014 2:06 PM - Deleted
that house looks like someone's great grandma took a giant decor turd in there
March 20, 2014 2:07 PM - petebklyn
could you inform us non-religious folks where god instructs people to put TVs? Is it old or new testament, koran??
March 20, 2014 2:09 PM - More4Less
Recently, I find myself liking more and more modern style. Still not the minimalist modern style but certainly more modern than my traditional prewar leanings when I was still Clinton hill
March 20, 2014 2:09 PM - dibs
I wouldn't expect either dh or randi to appreciate a fine Federal interior.
March 20, 2014 2:11 PM - More4Less
I have tv's in all the bedrms and in living rm. if not for having an iPad then, might've put TV's into the bathrms
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March 20, 2014 2:13 PM - dibs
You could put a TV in that parlour formal living room. it would just have to be housed in a nice antique tall chest of some form. The Chinese wedding chests are perfect.
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March 20, 2014 2:14 PM - Deleted

That's exactly what happened to me. When I had my house, my dining and living room were traditional. In fact, my DR looked something like that BH house (not quite as nice, though!). When I moved to my condo, we went to modern minimalist, and we both like it a lot. Less fuss and muss.
March 20, 2014 2:19 PM - More4Less
Wife asked me to take down the tv in living rm. I concede to her on lots of stuff but I drew the line on that one - simply walked away when she made that comment
March 20, 2014 2:23 PM - Deleted
We have a projector and a screen that comes down from the ceiling so when not in use you don't even see it. Big flat-screen on the wall kind of takes over a room

Dibs, is federalist another term for gaudy? I'm not familiar with it.

March 20, 2014 2:23 PM - Deleted
March 20, 2014 2:24 PM - Deleted
The red room above is especially tragic.
March 20, 2014 2:26 PM - dibs
Philistines. Classless, Philistines.

March 20, 2014 2:27 PM - Deleted
"We have a projector and a screen that comes down from the ceiling so when not in use you don't even see it."

March 20, 2014 2:29 PM - Deleted
yeah projectors are awesome.
March 20, 2014 2:30 PM - dibs
It probably makes him feel like a movie mogul with his own private screening room.
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March 20, 2014 2:37 PM - BoerumHillScott
We are having inital discussions regarding TV size when we eventually get our own place and move.
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March 20, 2014 2:40 PM - Deleted
Projectors same price as good flat-screen
March 20, 2014 2:42 PM - Deleted
Samsung makes some great lcd ones with wifi and built in Netflix and stuff.
March 20, 2014 2:42 PM - Deleted
One of the down-sides of living in a condo is lack of a man cave. Further evidence of my "whipped" status.
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March 20, 2014 2:47 PM - Deleted
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March 20, 2014 2:57 PM - Deleted
March 20, 2014 3:03 PM - dibs
here's the TV room in that house
March 20, 2014 3:06 PM - etson
I like the rooms that DIBS posted. I like the styles better than colorsbut they are very well coordinated. The recessed lights look bad in the red room though.
That style is not a good fit for my apartment (1950's built).
March 20, 2014 3:06 PM - More4Less
Them nice screens for the projectors ain't cheap. Think the one my buddy put in cost more than the projector by a decent amount.

Yeah, that's why wife wants me to remove tv from living rm - tv was taking over the rm. even more so in the bedrm where we have same big tv but rm is smaller than living rm
March 20, 2014 3:17 PM - rf
It is really beautiful outside (here in Brooklyn, don't know about Philadelphia). Everyone should just take a chill pill and get some fresh air on the first day of spring!
March 20, 2014 3:22 PM - dibs
I hadn't realized that the $7.3 MM BH house was just a half block away from the subsidized towers. I couldn't live that close to those places if I were paying $7.3 MM
March 20, 2014 3:25 PM - Deleted

I'm sensing that you belong in a gated retirement community for the 1%.
March 20, 2014 3:26 PM - rf
Are you through with the subsidized towers, Dave? Or you don't happen to have the $7.3 MM at this moment?
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March 20, 2014 3:31 PM - dibs
I have a liquidity problem
March 20, 2014 3:36 PM - Deleted
sorry - i never see anyone in BH that looks like they have 7 million dollars.
March 20, 2014 3:37 PM - dibs
How often are you there????
March 20, 2014 3:38 PM - dibs
That said, I bet most millionaires don't actually look like what you think millionaires should look like. You've heard of the book "The Millionaire Next Door" right?
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March 20, 2014 3:42 PM - Deleted
i didn't say millionaire. anyone who owns a house in most brooklyn neighborhoods would now would qualify as a millionaire.

i mean someone who would buy a 7 million dollar house.
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March 20, 2014 3:42 PM - Deleted
"The Millionaire Next Door"

Great book.
March 20, 2014 3:51 PM - dibs
LOL….so went to look if there was any news on the plane. Searched for CNN (didn't lnow where it was here) and what would you know???? Looks like constant coverage by CNN. talking about reading license plates by satellite.

the commentary is such a load of condescending, pedantic crap.
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March 20, 2014 4:02 PM - dibs
I like these people. One of the few places with a beautiful kitchen with a TV in it!!!!
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March 20, 2014 4:12 PM - dibs
Some asshole Democrat in NJ is on Christie's case because he fired his aide because she lied to him, not because of what she did to the traffic.

March 20, 2014 4:16 PM - Deleted
March 20, 2014 4:35 PM - dibs
Now's the time to start looking for your Summer shore rental.
March 20, 2014 4:36 PM - rf
Are you watching TV? Philly TV?
March 20, 2014 4:38 PM - dibs
March 20, 2014 4:42 PM - rf
Sounds like Philly local tv news is as inane as NYC local tv news.
March 20, 2014 4:44 PM - dibs
Probably worse. Just heard all about a car that hit a lamp post in King of Prussia
March 20, 2014 4:46 PM - Deleted
king of prussia - that sounds really muslim! don't let legion hear about that
March 20, 2014 4:46 PM - Deleted
sharia law sharia law!
March 20, 2014 4:47 PM - Deleted
March 20, 2014 4:48 PM - dibs
He's had a hard day at the office, benson.
March 20, 2014 4:49 PM - Deleted
hey benson - why don't you go suck up to your wife's friends you whipped mofo
March 20, 2014 4:51 PM - Deleted
^^^ also weak. Pathetic troll attempt.
March 20, 2014 4:52 PM - dibs
Even worse, a pathetic attempt by a pathetic troll
March 20, 2014 4:54 PM - Deleted
zzz - well entertain me.
March 20, 2014 4:55 PM - dibs
you still at work?
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March 20, 2014 4:56 PM - Deleted
March 20, 2014 4:58 PM - Deleted
"well entertain me."

Can't. Gotta run home. Wife just called.


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March 20, 2014 5:08 PM - More4Less
Arkady has a tv in her kitchen
March 20, 2014 5:16 PM - rf
I don't see the TV in the BH kitchen. I see a laptop.
March 20, 2014 5:21 PM - dibs
It's a TV. Go to the listing. Then apologize for your mistake.
March 20, 2014 5:25 PM - dibs
A barber on W. Main St. in Lansdale is accused of going after a coworker with a pair of scissors.
March 20, 2014 5:26 PM - etson
While on matters of taste, I think the condo of the day on Court St is utterly hideous. Not one single thing I like about it, other than maybe the parking space.
Not a big fan of the brownstone conversion condos in PS either (other than the location, spitting distance from my place!)
March 20, 2014 5:28 PM - etson
How does King of Prussia sound Muslim?
March 20, 2014 5:29 PM - rf
Why should I apologize because of what I saw in the photo you posted?
March 20, 2014 5:30 PM - dibs
He doesn't resally know anything about history, etson.
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March 20, 2014 5:31 PM - dibs
Because you were wrong. It'as not a laptop. it's a TV with a cable box next to it. Again, as typical with you, the details always escape you. Look at the Full Screen photos on the corcoran site. It's really not hard to get these things right.
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March 20, 2014 5:38 PM - dibs
RIP and Good Riddance…Rev Fred Phelps

Founder of the Westboro Church
Edited at March 20, 2014 5:38 PM
March 20, 2014 5:41 PM - rf
Why should I bother. Oh well, never mind. No apology here!
March 20, 2014 5:43 PM - dibs
Typical, predictable and expected.
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March 20, 2014 5:44 PM - petebklyn
will there be protests and pickets at his funeral?
March 20, 2014 5:45 PM - dibs
Maybe a rent boy will show up looking for some inheritance.
March 20, 2014 6:03 PM - petebklyn
how'd my email ever get on Robert Scarano's list?

I hope this email finds you well ,Kindly log on to view
the document i uploaded for you using Google Doc .
Click HERE to download the document .


March 20, 2014 6:09 PM - rf
Dave, maybe you want to bid on a $25 gift certificate at Armando's, as part of a fundraising online auction to benefit the Brooklyn Tech PTA. Current bid is $10.
March 20, 2014 6:09 PM - More4Less
Etson, fully settled in yet?
March 20, 2014 6:12 PM - Deleted
Ge. Beers and babies was fun. Brandi is so mobile now and is learning to play with other kids. So cute.

This was earlier today from the wife's office. She has a great view North from bway and Houston
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March 20, 2014 6:22 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Brandi has the most wonderful eyes! Love that little girl, and her chubby cheekers!
March 20, 2014 6:32 PM - Deleted
March 20, 2014 6:35 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Got new glasses, just thankful they were under 1k, with lenses. Oy! Insurance will cover part, not sure how much. Maybe a 1/3-1/2?

Always takes a couple days to get used to new prescription. Thanfully, I didn't trip on the way home.
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March 20, 2014 6:38 PM - Deleted
Goddammit glasses are expensive! Someone needs to come up with the ikea of glasses, which I suppose is lens crafters. But still.
March 20, 2014 6:39 PM - rf
Lenscrafters not cheap!
March 20, 2014 6:42 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Yes, expensive, but I need them, and wear them all day every day. And I get them hyper-indexed as thin as possible, because they'd be 'coke bottle' thick otherwise.

These are probably the thinnest yet. Every few years they seem to come up with a way to make them even thinner. Amazing.
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March 20, 2014 6:42 PM - rf
Randi, did you go to the playgroup at Der Schwarze Koelner?
March 20, 2014 6:42 PM - Deleted
Uhh someone did. Warby parker
March 20, 2014 6:43 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
These are super lightweight, too. Which is really nice for my schnozz. ; )
March 20, 2014 6:44 PM - Deleted
Luxottica has a near monopoly on eyeglass stuff. It's kinda crazy
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March 20, 2014 6:44 PM - Deleted
March 20, 2014 6:45 PM - Deleted
Lenses are expensive. I have a very slight Rx and don't get any fancy thinning stuff and they were like 250 just for the lenses
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March 20, 2014 6:46 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
These are Lindberg, frameless. But bigger lenses than I've had in awhile. The style now, I guess.

The lenses were $495 alone. Eek! But I have a complicated prescription. Progressives, and bad astigmatism, and overall poor vision, very near-sighted. But improving slightly with age.
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March 20, 2014 6:49 PM - Deleted
I feel like cobble could rock the cat eye
March 20, 2014 6:49 PM - RowerChick
I haven't actually sat down at my desk at Corcoran yet, and I can't open my Corcoran email, but I do have a desk phone # and my new email address is

Yes, that would make me the newest agent at the Brooklyn Heights Corcoran offices.
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March 20, 2014 6:49 PM - Deleted
Dang that's expensive. And is eye insurance a big scam? I feel like it covers hardly anything. I have vsp
March 20, 2014 6:50 PM - Deleted
Yeah Rf that's my jam.
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March 20, 2014 6:50 PM - Deleted
Awesome rc! Congrats! Break a leg
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March 20, 2014 6:51 PM - Deleted
And good spelling of the plcae Rf. Did you Google that???? :)
March 20, 2014 6:52 PM - Deleted
Rc I'll be calling you! I'm gonna sell in a year or so.
March 20, 2014 6:52 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Lol! My mom totally rocked the cat-eye glasses! I have a wonderful photo of her from when she modeled for a photographer. A little racy for the mid 50s! She was a cool cat!
March 20, 2014 6:56 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Our vision insurance covers new frames every two years. I forget how much they paid out last time. I think it was nearly 1/2. So, no, vision insurance, if you really need glasses like I do, is not a scam. Of course, I could buy less expensive frames, but since I wear them every day all day, I like to get really nice ones. It's worth it to me.
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March 20, 2014 6:59 PM - Deleted
Beers and babies was fun.

For whom? My grandfather used to take me to the bar all the time when I was a kid. It's disgusting and borders on neglect/abuse. Babies shouldn't be allowed in adult establishments, no one under 21 should. Not that I give a crap now, but there's a hideous mom brigade in my building who think the big lobby, right where my apartment's front door is, is their personal play space. Go to fucking park and watch your stupid 1000 dollar strollers chained up all over the place in the same lobby cuz some people have no problem dumping trash in them. How would they like it if I went and played loudly outside their apartment doors upstairs? Sorry, not talking to you randi with that last part, just out loud to the Universe.
March 20, 2014 6:59 PM - rf
I know about it from the FGKids list. But I haven't been reading lately--my kid is aging me out!
March 20, 2014 7:00 PM - rf
So Randi, where do you want to move? L.A.?
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March 20, 2014 7:01 PM - Deleted
Hi Rob.
March 20, 2014 7:02 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I'm not a 'shopper', I don't buy a lot of stuff, but I buy the nicest I can afford. So after reimbursement, $500 +/- for glasses, that I'll wear for two years, seems ok to me.
March 20, 2014 7:02 PM - Deleted
And yes yes i Know those kooky europeans are in bars from infancy and it's no big deal and they learn about proper drinking. Who cares? Moonface parents are destroying everything.

March 20, 2014 7:04 PM - Deleted
Probably not moving to LA, just somewhere else in Brooklyn, maybe in rob's building so we can let br'andi play in the hallway.

In all seriousness, that would really annoy me if my neighbors let their kids play in the hall. Dafuq does that?

March 20, 2014 7:07 PM - Deleted
Maybe 25% of the time I'm in park slope I feel like I'm in outer space. It's fine most of the time. I think robs building might be one of those weird places
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March 20, 2014 7:08 PM - pepper
I was out at a conference all day.

But don't think I didn't hear you, dave. Fuck you. ;o)
March 20, 2014 7:13 PM - petebklyn
of course kids play in hallway of apt buildings -- unless you live in some senior citizen bldg or some fancy UES coop.
Always have, always will -- just as there will always be the unhappy old cranks that will complain about it.
March 20, 2014 7:16 PM - Deleted
I don't really remember any bars being infested with babies, that's probably a little bit of exaggeration.. but my building is bad.. definite breeder brigade. the whole building pretty turned over in the last few years and it's my least favorite kind of people. Maybe they are trying to rent to be in ps321 up the block!? It just makes sad, very sad. I don't like being this age and it's very upsetting to me that someday very soon people are gonna have to move to the fucking suburbs to get away from these people and their children. What a sick joke. It's weird cuz obviously there's gazillions of kids in nyc and always been, but this new breed of parent is truly depressing. No amount of therapy or medication is going to all of a sudden make me be okay with this.

March 20, 2014 7:19 PM - Deleted
I played in the hallways of buildings too as a kid. But we could be yelled at as kids. If I yelled at these kids and their butt ugly parents they would video the whole thing and shame me on the internet, probably on some stupid mommy blog or worse. They still come across as entitled assholes. If you cant play in your apartment, move elsewhere for more room. The lobby and halls for which someone is paying through the nose in rent is not the place.
March 20, 2014 7:20 PM - rf
Do you hear the children from your room?
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March 20, 2014 7:23 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I almost never hear the kids in my building. 3 apts. 2 babies. One teething, so I hear that one from time to time.
March 20, 2014 7:25 PM - Deleted
I just had the perfect answer. Next time the parents are infesting the lobby with their kids making a ruckus I'm gonna make my own ruckus and blast porn.

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March 20, 2014 7:26 PM - Deleted
Childless adults need to take back the city.

March 20, 2014 7:29 PM - pepper
The couple downstairs from us has a kid a few months old, who they have been sleep training. They keep asking, and we keep telling them that we don't hear her crying (we really don't) - but they brought us 2 bottles of wine the other day, just in case. Very civilized.
March 20, 2014 7:32 PM - petebklyn
don't worry - you'll soon be old enough to apply to the senior citizen building. after all you said getting gray already.
March 20, 2014 7:32 PM - DeLepp
Warby parker frames are gigantic. A talked to our upstair neighbors today, said it sounded like the family was tap dancing in clogs.
March 20, 2014 7:39 PM - Deleted
The sad thing is they probably were... knowing the demographics

March 20, 2014 7:48 PM - Deleted
I am not denying I am an old crank. This isnt just kids playing btw. It's organized bullshit with tons of kids and their shit ALL OVER THE PLACE. There was one asshole and his wonky eyed wife who used to play baseball in the hallway and the ball would hit my door.
March 20, 2014 7:58 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I'm having leftover Indian food for dinner, from Curry Heights. The best ever! ; )
March 20, 2014 8:08 PM - Deleted
March 20, 2014 8:21 PM - More4Less
wow, those lens prices sound mad high. my wife has mr. magoo eyes and her lenses cost less than 200 for sure. probably doesn't crack 150 and her lenses are the thin ones with the transition lenses.

think you peeps are getting robbed and don't even know it
March 20, 2014 8:32 PM - Deleted
Do you buy them off the back of a truck somewhere?
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March 20, 2014 8:33 PM - Deleted
The prices of glasses are jacked up because they are not treated as medical devices anymore, but instead props in corny ass mainstream fashion. I refuse to wear glasses because all it takes is one punch to the face and you can go blind from the shards.
March 20, 2014 8:35 PM - Deleted
Think polycarbonate lenses are shatter proof
March 20, 2014 8:36 PM - Deleted
Of course if you wear contact lenses you can go blind if you are subject to a high heat source or flame. The lenses will melt right onto your cornea. And then you're blind.

March 20, 2014 8:37 PM - Deleted
Ah. Didn't know shatter proof glasses exist. That kinda makes me mad to know that for some strange reason.

March 20, 2014 8:38 PM - Deleted
I'm kinda freaked out now though about my glasses shattering in my eyeballs
March 20, 2014 8:39 PM - More4Less
DH, this is the first time I've ever heard lenses costing this much and I know a ton of people who wear glasses.
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March 20, 2014 8:40 PM - Deleted
Yeah. Like, my last pair I got at lens crafters and the lenses were like 200.
March 20, 2014 8:41 PM - Deleted
Maybe the anti glare ones are a little more? I dunno
March 20, 2014 8:42 PM - Deleted
I'm sure you're more likely to get hit by lightening. I need a new pair of glasses for when I take out my contacts. I have a pair of ladies glasses I got for 3 bux at a thrift store a while back and they are a similar Rx I guess. They aren't the kinds of glasses I would wear out in public though. They always look dirty. I always see grease on peoples glasses. Nerd glasses used to make people look smart, now they just make people like a dickhead.

March 20, 2014 8:45 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
My lenses are very expensive, more than most people's. But that's always been true for me. They're progressive, they have like triple hyper-indexing - to make them thinnest possible, the anti-glare coat, the scratch coat, and the prescription - very bad near-sighted, very bad astigmatism. My lenses are always the most I've ever heard of. Not the average, by any means.

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March 20, 2014 8:46 PM - Deleted
When I quit drinking my prescription went from -3.75 and -4.00 to -2.75 and -3.00, I had an eye exam about a month or so after quitting. I think it may have to do with the regiment of vitamins I was on at the time though. Now I'm curious if not taking those vitamins anymore has reverted my prescription back to higher numbers.
March 20, 2014 8:50 PM - Deleted
-3.25 and -4.00 to -2.75 and -3.00 i mean.

Heh. When I first moved here I went to that moonface eye place on union street and ugh. I had a -6.00 in one eye and a lower number by a lot in the other and went for months and months with fucked up cross eyed like vision. Either the optometrist sucked ass or it was because I was kinda drunk during the eye exam. Why they gave me an eye exam drunk I don't know. Even tattoo places reject drunk people (sometimes)
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March 20, 2014 8:52 PM - DeLepp
A and mine lenses were 400+, both blind, bifocals, progressives, scratch resistent.
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March 20, 2014 9:05 PM - DeLepp
Rachel maddow yammering on about the lunch where McCain picked palin as his running mate for vp. Why would anyone care 6 years later, maybe she should cut back on her tv schedule.
March 20, 2014 9:16 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I barely watch news programs at this point, except some about the missing plane. I still can't digest the fact that it's lost! In this day and age, with the technology, I'm very surprised.
March 20, 2014 9:20 PM - pepper
I talked to a Southwest pilot when I was in Ft. Myers last week, and said much the same as you, Cobble. He told me that planes still operate with technology mostly from the '70s, because it's way too expensive for airlines to outfit planes with more modern tech.
March 20, 2014 9:30 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
With air fares as they are, where does the money go?
March 20, 2014 9:36 PM - DeLepp
Prior to last 2 years us airlines rarely turned an annual profit. Only now the capacity is down and ancillary fares(bags) are up are the making any money. There are thousands of jets in the Mohave desert just waiting to be brought back into service. Many were placed there after 9-11 and unlikely ever to fly again.
March 20, 2014 9:36 PM - rf
I suspect that more people show up at tattoo parlors when they are drunk than show up at optometrists when they are drunk.
March 20, 2014 9:54 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Are fewer people flying? Or are fewer planes flying more often?
March 20, 2014 10:03 PM - Deleted
I'm all for banning all planes from flying.
March 20, 2014 10:04 PM - DeLepp
fewer planes. The norm for seats occupied used to be about 70%. Today planes are flying at 85% full.
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March 20, 2014 10:05 PM - Deleted
Stupid plane noise every 10 minutes I can hear here. Not healthy.
March 20, 2014 10:06 PM - Deleted
Is that because people got fatter?
March 20, 2014 10:07 PM - DeLepp
Seats have gotten smaller as they are jamming more seats on the plane.
March 20, 2014 10:09 PM - pepper
is rob stargazer/adrastos?
March 20, 2014 10:10 PM - pepper
yeah, airline load factor has really increased a lot since 9/11.
March 20, 2014 10:12 PM - Deleted
lol no, I've always complained about the planes overhead since they rerouted them. GRRRR. Not only did this building used to be basically child-free, it also had no planes going overhead every 10 minutes. If the rent goes up too much this lease renewal I think I am going to request to have a little chat with the owner landlord and discuss the many new quality of life issues like the ones I just listed. It can't hurt.
March 20, 2014 10:15 PM - Deleted
Ah! For my first time on a plane (in 2012 lol) the first plane i purchased a seat with extra legroom! But of COURSE I was detained from going on the flight and made to sit in a room and drink coffee to sober up to be put on the next plane. I don't remember getting on that plane. All I remember from my plane rides was an indian-american (not american-indian) romantic comedy movie playing and smelly headphones.
March 20, 2014 10:15 PM - pepper
For the flight to Bosnia I just booked, over $500 of what I paid was an "International surcharge" - I'm not clear on who actually gets that $$$; is it just an accounting play by the airline? or do they have to pay someone else?
March 20, 2014 10:17 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Why is that, delepp/pep?
March 20, 2014 10:19 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
rob, roughly 3rd Av has been a flight path forever. You're probably just noticing it more now that you aren't drinking.
March 20, 2014 10:22 PM - DeLepp
pep, airline fees. Bosnia air gets it. Probably a fuel surcharge among other fees/taxes to pay airport staff.

cobble, airlines realized that their model was broken. Most were focused on deregulation in the 80s. In the 1990s, despite great economic activity, airlines folded and some flew into bankruptsy twice. They are no longer competing with each other on seats/routes.
March 20, 2014 10:22 PM - pepper
I don't follow the airlines as closely anymore, as DeLepp seems to, but I think operating costs increased a lot after 9/11, with higher security fees etc, so airlines have been trying to operate more efficiently. Which is good for them, but not as nice for the flyer, with such full flights and shrinking personal space.
March 20, 2014 10:27 PM - pepper
Yeah DeLepp, back in the day, when I was a straight corporate lender, I used to say that the post-dereg airline business model was the most broken I could imagine. And banks were stupid as hell for lending to them. It consisted of fly for a while, declare bk, rinse, repeat. Seems they've largely gotten better at it.
March 20, 2014 10:27 PM - Deleted
No, they actually switched flight patterns and it got really bad over this part of park slope with the plain noise. I heard it while I was drinking for years.
It was not that. Nice try, doctor. :/

March 20, 2014 10:28 PM - Deleted
I was disappointed. All four of the planes I was on had surly, borderline incompetent, and very unattractive stewardesses/and the male version.

March 20, 2014 10:29 PM - pepper
Are you SURE you're not stargazer, rob? ;o)
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March 20, 2014 10:29 PM - Deleted
Well one did.
March 20, 2014 10:30 PM - Deleted
Yes. trust me on this, check IPs.
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March 20, 2014 10:31 PM - pepper
I'm just teasing, rob... I know you're not him.
March 20, 2014 10:32 PM - petebklyn
when a simple subsidized metro-north ticket costs $20+ to poughkeepsie one way -- bus ticket on trailways somewhere close to $50 r/t to Kingston -- I don't think the $410 r/t flying to san francisco I just booked sounds like so much. How could it be any cheaper?
March 20, 2014 10:33 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I recall flying NY to SF on half empty flights. Nice, as I could sit In non-smoking seat, but go back to the smoking section from time to time for a cig. Such a luxury!
March 20, 2014 10:34 PM - petebklyn
I think one hears plane noise over park slope really only when they have to fly really low because of cloud cover. Most of what Rob hears is probably just inside his head or alien spirits talking to him.
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March 20, 2014 10:35 PM - pepper
Yeah, Cobble, those days are long gone.
March 20, 2014 10:37 PM - Deleted
I found the trains more fun. The cafe car was quite fun and all kinds of fun freaks to interact with. The plane was boring as fuck and I don't like being strapped in to anything, but I don't think i'd take that long of a train ride again sober.
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March 20, 2014 10:38 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
The flight patterns have not changed. They may vary slightly, but not much.
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March 20, 2014 10:39 PM - Deleted
They have changed.
March 20, 2014 10:39 PM - petebklyn
what is longest timeframe someone could handle being with you before they have to reach for a drink?
March 20, 2014 10:45 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Snort! Pete made a funny!

Go find the evidence and get back to me, rob.
Edited at March 20, 2014 10:45 PM
March 20, 2014 10:45 PM - Deleted
Ugh. Starbucks is introducing beer and wine to many of their stores :/

March 20, 2014 10:47 PM - DeLepp
Empty planes are a good memory, never to be seen in my lifetime again.
March 20, 2014 10:48 PM - DeLepp
Airlines have always been a fascinating business to me, lots of large egos and seemingly vanishing money.
March 20, 2014 10:51 PM - DeLepp
The "frequent flyer" program that American instituted has been copied by everyone, no matter what business one was conducting. At one point that business for AA was worth more than all the planes/routes.
March 20, 2014 10:54 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I used to love fare hunting and planning trips, and did a lot around the US. Just not possible anymore, just for me? Or for most?
March 20, 2014 10:59 PM - Deleted
No clue, RF books all of my flights lol.

March 20, 2014 11:00 PM - petebklyn
friends of mine fly around the world all the time. flight bennies from being former airline employee of british air
March 20, 2014 11:02 PM - rf
Rob, I don't think Starbucks will find it easy to get liquor licenses for most of their stores in NYC.
March 20, 2014 11:02 PM - Deleted
Ugh I wish did something exciting with my life like learn to fly planes. Office monkey work is bad shit when you turn into an actual office monkey.

March 20, 2014 11:03 PM - Deleted
That's good to know, RF! There are some neighborhoods where there's only a starbucks around to get a drink other than bars.

March 20, 2014 11:04 PM - petebklyn
learning to ride a bike and then drive a car would be sufficiently challenging and exciting for you.
March 20, 2014 11:04 PM - rf
The pay for pilots is way, way down.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, citing data from the Airline Pilots Association, International, starting pay for most airline pilots is approximately $20,000.

March 20, 2014 11:06 PM - rf
The only Trader Joe's in the city (maybe the state?) with a liquor store is the one on 14th St. in Manhattan east of Union Square. They could only get a license for one.
March 20, 2014 11:07 PM - Deleted
I know how to ride a bike, it was one of my favorite activities I did when I was in california. And I had that little dirt bike I spray that me and Krazy stole from around the corner (it wasn't locked up). I have no desire to ride a bike around NYC. I really do want to get my driver's license. Mostly because at the go-kart park in Jersey City you can't ride the 45mph track if you don't have a license, you can only ride on the regular track that has kids and shit.
March 20, 2014 11:08 PM - Deleted
The pay for many careers is way, way down. People need to get out of their little brownstone bubble once in a while.
March 20, 2014 11:12 PM - rf
Or maybe pay should be better from the bottom up and less from the top down. You know, the tale of two cities and all.

And with that, I say good night.
Edited at March 20, 2014 11:12 PM
March 20, 2014 11:12 PM - petebklyn
obviously pay is not down for those buying the brownstones.
March 20, 2014 11:16 PM - Deleted
Thus the suckiness of living in an area where real estate is in demand. blech. And double blech for this game being delayed until April 15th, it was supposed to be out yesterday.

Edited at March 20, 2014 11:16 PM
March 20, 2014 11:27 PM - pepper
A couple of years ago, I read where starting commercial airline pilots often qualify for food stamps :o/