Thursday Open Thread
August 8, 2013 12:15 AM - Partridge
"Whitestone" style street lamp.
From Forgotten NY:
A Type 41T at the Brooklyn Bridge entrance ramp at Sands Street, the new #1 World Trade Center and #8 Spruce Street Frank Gehry residential towers forming the backdrop. You will also find remaining ‘Stones on the Manhattan Brooklyn Bridge off ramps.

August 8, 2013 6:23 AM - Deleted
Dads get a raw deal at this point. Basically baby just sleeps and eats, and my job all throughout the day and night is to take crying baby who just woke up and change diaper. She screams bloody murder most of the time, and then I pass to the wife who feeds and baby is all happy and calm and falls asleep in her arms. I feel left out.
August 8, 2013 6:35 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
aw, randi!
August 8, 2013 6:45 AM - Deleted
I feel left out.

Don't worry, you'll be wearing matching corny sloganed onesies and pushing an expensive fugly peramubulator down the street very soon.

And UGH! The big powerball winner was from minnefuckingsota :-/ At least two were from Jersey though.

AND LOL @ you on diaper duty. WHIPPED here and at home! At least the thing is wearing diapers though and you're not dangling it over the sewers to poop and pee like some of the fern gully parents around here do. These same parents have the nerve to put up signs on PUBLIC tree grates telling people not to let their dogs pee and poop in their precious weeds.. bitches (male and female), please.

August 8, 2013 6:48 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
hey randi, i recall seeing things on tv about dads participating in feedings even when mom breast feeds. i think when the baby is a couple weeks old, it's ok to occasionally give the baby a bottle with pumped breast milk. that way you can get in on the soothing activity of feeding while the baby still gets the goodness of breast milk. talk to your doc about it. could be just what you need.
August 8, 2013 6:50 AM - Deleted
I guess we can add sexist to the list of 'Wtf is wrong with rob?' you really think changing diapers is the woman's job?

Ps, go to hell rob. What is your purpose here?
August 8, 2013 6:55 AM - Deleted
you really think changing diapers is the woman's job?

The baby sitter and the nanny's job moreso, yes. And they can be male you know. And I wasn't saying it to be sexist, I was just just laughing at you changing dirty diapers while your wife (your words) sits there with a smile on her face. (again, your words).

What is your purpose here?

To feel better about myself and to remind myself how corny Brooklyn is?

August 8, 2013 6:57 AM - BoerumHillScott
Rob, please get off this site and find someplace else to spew your ignorant hatred.
Can't you go back to trolling brownstoner or some similar place?
Lots of opportunities on Curbed and gothamist as well.
August 8, 2013 6:57 AM - Deleted
We don't have a nanny or babysitter. Please just leave me alone.
August 8, 2013 6:58 AM - Deleted
Of course I run my fingers through gravel filled with fish poop so I am not judging you, just laughing at you. And next week I will be picking up dog poop and cleaning a cat's litter box, at least I am getting paid for the shameful acts though. I wonder if that's what it feels like to be a prostitute.
Edited at August 8, 2013 6:58 AM
August 8, 2013 7:00 AM - Cobble B. Hiller

Why is it that when anyone tells rob to stfu, f*ck off, go f*ck yourself, etc., I imagine rob cackling and feeling pleased?

August 8, 2013 7:01 AM - Deleted

1.) moron, I don't troll. Please learn the definition of that.
2.) I wouldn't be caught dead on gothamist or brownstoner. Viewing the content alone would make me want to stick an ice pick in my left eye.
3.) You do have the power to ban me you know, you've already taken away being able to make posts to appease the cat ladies, so just ban me as well!
4.) I don't spew "hate". I just don't fake love.

August 8, 2013 7:01 AM - Deleted
Oh come on. Rob's 6.45 was lol funny. Randi - you're in delicate flower mode again.
August 8, 2013 7:03 AM - Deleted
Please just leave me alone.

You've been picking on me since 2008 though. Now that you've been metaphorically castrated by the warsh women you are claiming I am the picker!? POPPYCOCK SANDWICH!

August 8, 2013 7:10 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Lovely. Another morning covered in rob's vomit.
August 8, 2013 7:15 AM - Partridge
So Rob, you want to be banned, right? You can't quit us yourself, you have said over and over again. Scott should pull the plug is what you are saying, right? This will make you happy and help you find your inner corny?
August 8, 2013 7:16 AM - Deleted
Yes Benson, it was funny if you are an asshole.
August 8, 2013 7:17 AM - Deleted
What is this warsh women nonsense? I really don't know who or what he's talking about.
August 8, 2013 7:24 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
rob would love to be banned and start World War 6 ( or 12 or whatever it would be in OT years) around here.
Edited at August 8, 2013 7:24 AM
August 8, 2013 7:24 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
randi, seriously, talk to the doc about occasionally feeding the breast milk via bottle. you should be able to participate in the goodness, too. i hope you start to feel better about things soon. don't forget to just soak up the simplicity of the love of a new wee one. this is such an exciting time for you and from what i know from many friends who have had babies, the time flies by so be sure to enjoy every moment.
August 8, 2013 7:25 AM - Deleted
Yeah snappy we are going to start that but it's too soon, baby is only 10 days old.
Edited at August 8, 2013 7:25 AM
August 8, 2013 7:25 AM - Partridge
Yeah, Benson. It is funny because it isn't you or your daughter that he is making fun of. Just let Rob make fun of her and see what a delicate flower you too will become.

Really! I just love watching to see who comes out to defend his repugnant, vile crap.
August 8, 2013 7:26 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
randi, It's just rob trying to find a derogatory name for the mean girls, since we have co-opted that moniker, and hoping he'll find one that will get under our skin.
August 8, 2013 7:29 AM - Deleted
We need to get randi one of these
August 8, 2013 7:31 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
dh, men seriously use those! could actually be good for randi in his feelings of being left out!
Edited at August 8, 2013 7:31 AM
August 8, 2013 7:32 AM - Deleted
I could use one of those ...for...stuff
August 8, 2013 7:32 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Lol, I love those movies. And DeNiro is effing hilarious.
August 8, 2013 7:37 AM - Deleted
Lol dh!

Benson, that is an example of a non offensive funny response. Pearls of wisdom.
August 8, 2013 7:37 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
lol dh!
August 8, 2013 7:37 AM - Deleted
EW @ the biohazard suit!!! And YES Breast milk is classified as a type I biohazard.

August 8, 2013 7:38 AM - Deleted
Deniro was great in silver linings playbook.
August 8, 2013 7:53 AM - Deleted
I haven't seen that yet. Heard it was depressing.
August 8, 2013 7:55 AM - dibs
Why everyone so testy this morning???????
August 8, 2013 8:01 AM - Donatella
wow, horrible stuff and before 7 am. This site is really becoming awful.
August 8, 2013 8:04 AM - BoerumHillScott
Hang in there Raini.
Honestly, I can’t agree with the common “enjoy every moment” sentiments. While many/most moments can be enjoyable, there will be plenty of moments that range from “eh” to “I am totally hating this.” I think all of those are OK also.
It think is totally true that no matter how things seem now, when you look back you will think “damn, a whole lot happened in a flash.”

Edited at August 8, 2013 8:09 AM
August 8, 2013 8:04 AM - dibs
I think it's hardly horrible.
August 8, 2013 8:06 AM - Deleted
I'm not testy. It's a glorious morning
August 8, 2013 8:08 AM - Deleted
DH, its not depressing at all.
August 8, 2013 8:09 AM - Deleted
"Why everyone so testy this morning???????"

no one was being testy until rob showed up.
August 8, 2013 8:10 AM - Deleted
thanks scott. and this

“damn, a whole lot happened in a flash.”

already feels true. these days are flying by and i am doing almost nothing.
Edited at August 8, 2013 8:10 AM
August 8, 2013 8:17 AM - BoerumHillScott
More anti-child bullshit from Rob regarding breast milk being a biohazard

From the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention:

No special precautions exist for handling expressed human milk, nor does the milk require special labeling. It is not considered a biohazard.


Expressed milk is not considered a biohazard. International Air Transport Authority regulations for shipping category B biological substances (UN 3373) do not apply to expressed milk; it is considered a food for individual use. Travelers shipping frozen milk should follow guidelines for shipping other frozen foods and liquids.

August 8, 2013 8:20 AM - dibs
Rained overnight up here...should be a nice day.

Doing two shows today, both in Manchester.
Edited at August 8, 2013 8:20 AM
August 8, 2013 8:21 AM - BoerumHillScott
Randi, I know you know this, but you are doing a huge amount by being there for your wife, providing support on many levels.
Nature is not always fair and equal, and at this stage the primary work is still done by the woman. Don’t worry, there are many, many, many years ahead where the tasks, joys, and trials can be divided up any possible way.

August 8, 2013 8:22 AM - Partridge
"Why everyone so testy this morning???????"

You get ONE of these Real Bull Scrotum Black Leather Fur Hairy Hide Ball Bag Taxidermy Animal Testicle Men's Gift for Man Cave. Yes these are really from a steer's nether regions, salvaged after the rest of him became dinner. These bull ball bags have been professionally tanned and preserved in a stiff bowl like shape, holes punched near the edge, and strung with soft suede scrap leather. Inside, they are the texture of a fine sandpaper. Outside, they have varying degrees of naturally black or dark charcoal colored hairiness and most have some scratches and scaring from the hard life of being a bull.

Most are asymetrical with one side hanging lower than the other. Each bag is approximately 4 to 6 inches tall and 4 to 6 inches wide but each is unique in overall shape. These bags are big! They are stiff leather and have a light leather smell to them.
August 8, 2013 8:23 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
um, omg. i can't even come up with words right now.
August 8, 2013 8:24 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
where do you find this stuff?????
August 8, 2013 8:24 AM - BoerumHillScott
That is amazing and disgusting.
August 8, 2013 8:24 AM - Deleted
hahaha LP!!! you should sell those at your store!
Edited at August 8, 2013 8:24 AM
August 8, 2013 8:24 AM - Deleted
"They are stiff leather and have a light leather smell to them."

August 8, 2013 8:25 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
scott nailed it.
August 8, 2013 8:26 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
what was the movie where they ate bull balls and had to eat a certain number for a contest?
August 8, 2013 8:26 AM - Deleted
"Doing two shows today, both in Manchester." ???? shows???
Edited at August 8, 2013 8:26 AM
August 8, 2013 8:27 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
randi, dh is gonna kill you for that pic.
August 8, 2013 8:28 AM - dibs
That guy has some real talent^^^^^^

Why is he wearing clothes???
August 8, 2013 8:28 AM - Deleted
that pic is 100% SFW!
August 8, 2013 8:28 AM - Deleted
Why is he wearing clothes???

for DH's sake
August 8, 2013 8:28 AM - Donatella
"I think it's hardly horrible."

Hmm. Am I becoming more sensitive????? Seems horrible to me and rob, I support all the good things you are doing these days, but it looks like you are playing a game here to try to get yourself banned and then begin the whole silly opera on who is the bad guy. Give it a rest.

Randi, hang in there. It gets better.

Edited at August 8, 2013 8:28 AM
August 8, 2013 8:28 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
he still won't be happy!
August 8, 2013 8:30 AM - BoerumHillScott
How would you like this bill: a guy was sentenced to pay $400 million for setting fire to a nuclear submarine while it was being refurbished. He was a painter/sandblaster and was trying to get out of work.
He is also getting 17 years in prison, and the sub is being scrapped.

August 8, 2013 8:30 AM - Arkady
Milling has started on the street. Six poor swine had left their cars which were towed. Tues. night or Weds. a.m. the owners will be really bummed - assuming first that car was stolen only to learn it was impounded solely because DOT didn't post in a timely manner.
Edited at August 8, 2013 8:30 AM
August 8, 2013 8:31 AM - Deleted
scott where did that happen?!
August 8, 2013 8:34 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
that's one helluva way to get out of work! and the fine is ridic. he surely can't pay it so it was for show.
August 8, 2013 8:40 AM - Deleted
August 8, 2013 8:41 AM - dibs
Wasn't the sub insured????
August 8, 2013 8:45 AM - Legion
...I heard that the bull sack hairy ball bag turns into a weekender satchel when you rub up right.
August 8, 2013 8:45 AM - Deleted
good question. i would think an instrument of war/mass destruction is difficult to insure. you can't even insure the contract of an NBA player with bad knees.
August 8, 2013 8:51 AM - BoerumHillScott
The incident happened last year at the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard in Maine.
They guy actually set 2 fires 3 weeks apart. One big one inside the sub, and one underneeth it in drydock.

I wonder if the guy was working for a contractor, and the goverment could go after them.
August 8, 2013 8:58 AM - petebklyn
Are you selling those bags at the shop, partridge?
August 8, 2013 9:00 AM - petebklyn
serves them right for parking on your block, arkady. If they lived on your block they would have seen the signs.
August 8, 2013 9:08 AM - dibs
I have a driveway in Bucks County and Provincetown.
August 8, 2013 9:11 AM - petebklyn
I'm not going for the bermuda rental you people looked down your noses at.
Possible are that one with the gym and pool or another that comes with a kayak for guests to use.
August 8, 2013 9:15 AM - Partridge
Not at this time, Pete. Just made its acquaintance this morning.
August 8, 2013 9:15 AM - petebklyn
Not that rob can't be mean and vile at times but seems to me some have lost all sense of humor ....much of his schtick is same as can be heard on standup comedy(husbands, fathers, newborn babies, modern childrearing, etc) ---- And so much of what he says is so absurd and contradictory that I can't believe people take it seriously.
August 8, 2013 9:16 AM - Deleted
thumbs down on scantily clad asian acrobat
August 8, 2013 9:17 AM - bxgrl
Hairy bull ball sac- Partridge there are no words. I do think it could use a little embellishing- perhaps something in sterling silver? :)

Randi- there comes a time- going by my niece and nephew, that they suddenly want only daddy. My sister was devastated when the kids went through that phase. She thought it was a rejection of her. They were only about 3 years old!! My brother in law loved it :)
August 8, 2013 9:17 AM - Deleted
C train was packed with super tall white women this morning.
August 8, 2013 9:17 AM - petebklyn
So are you considering expanding your product line?
August 8, 2013 9:17 AM - Deleted
okay so it's not a LEGAL biohazard, but it still IS a biohazard. Disease can be carried through it. Why some of you get so bent out of shape. I am not anti-kid nor hate children. Way too sensitive. Especially you donna today, im surprised at you.

August 8, 2013 9:22 AM - Deleted
oh hey rob - are you still smoking? there's a few bodegas near me that sell newports on the sly they pick up in virginia - 9 bucks a pack
August 8, 2013 9:25 AM - Biff Champion
Over the rainbow: Margaret Pellegrini, one of the last remaining Munchkins from film classic The Wizard of Oz, dies aged 89

Only 2 surviving Munchkins

August 8, 2013 9:25 AM - Deleted
"Not that rob can't be mean and vile at times but seems to me some have lost all sense of humor ....much of his schtick is same as can be heard on standup comedy(husbands, fathers, newborn babies, modern childrearing, etc) ---- And so much of what he says is so absurd and contradictory that I can't believe people take it seriously."

Ding Ding Ding!! Sometimes, Rob uses caricatures to bust chops. Nothing more - and it can be funny!

August 8, 2013 9:26 AM - Deleted
okay so it's not a LEGAL biohazard, but it still IS a biohazard.


I am not anti-kid nor hate children.

Edited at August 8, 2013 9:26 AM
August 8, 2013 9:28 AM - Deleted
WTF. I bought nose plugs (for the train ride home) yesterday on the N it was packed and people had SERIOUS body odor, but these nose plugs are tight as hell and I don't even have a big nose. Are they supposed to be so tight and kinda hurt?!

August 8, 2013 9:28 AM - Deleted
"WTF. I bought nose plugs (for the train ride home) yesterday on the N it was packed and people had SERIOUS body odor, but these nose plugs are tight as hell and I don't even have a big nose. Are they supposed to be so tight and kinda hurt?!"

ROTFL!!!!!! not.
August 8, 2013 9:29 AM - Deleted
"much of his schtick is same as can be heard on standup comedy"

sure pete, problem is he isn't funny. NOTHING is worse than bad standup.
August 8, 2013 9:32 AM - dibs
Did they also come with a butt plug????
August 8, 2013 9:32 AM - bxgrl
Well benson, while calling other people thinskinned, it pays to recall that yesterday you went off on RF for using the word "redneck."
August 8, 2013 9:35 AM - Deleted
"kids in park slope......what is uppppp with thaaaat?"

August 8, 2013 9:36 AM - petebklyn
"Only 2 surviving Munchkins " --- CGar is one but who is the other?
August 8, 2013 9:38 AM - petebklyn
I don't think he went off with redneck.....just a little ribbing. When he goes off it is obvious.
August 8, 2013 9:38 AM - Deleted
"Well benson, while calling other people thinskinned, it pays to recall that yesterday you went off on RF for using the word "redneck.""

Oh really? Care to reprint what I wrote, hall-monitor extraordinaire? I was busting her chops. Learn the difference.

August 8, 2013 9:39 AM - Deleted
Pete and I are totally in synch today!
August 8, 2013 9:39 AM - Arkady
pete - Have you considered Aruba? Heard an ad for it yesterday - direct flights, 365 days of sunshine. Might be worth looking into.
August 8, 2013 9:40 AM - Deleted
my parents went to aruba a few months ago and hated it.
August 8, 2013 9:41 AM - petebklyn
aruba sounds far...let me google or expedia search that one.
August 8, 2013 9:44 AM - Deleted
er. no. i am just vocal about the things i dont like. that's not humor. dibs, they came with ear plugs. i bought two packs at duane reade for TWENTY cents each from the sale table.

August 8, 2013 9:45 AM - Legion
I love Aruba!
Always a great vacation, but you have to choose your resort carefully.
There's a new Ritz Carlton on Palm Beach, due for completion later this year.
Edited at August 8, 2013 9:45 AM
August 8, 2013 9:47 AM - Partridge
And Pete, you know I love you, but when Randi and DH started to remark about the joy of basketball cheerleaders, you asked them to back off because of your niece.

Humor is subjective. Certain types of humor amuse certain types of people. I don't find Rob funny in the least. Others claim to. Rarely does one find humor when they or a loved one are the subject.
August 8, 2013 9:48 AM - Arkady
pete - I thought the parameter was direct flight on large, comm'l plane, not duration.
August 8, 2013 9:50 AM - Deleted
jet blue goes to aruba
August 8, 2013 9:51 AM - Legion's right off the coast of Venezuela pete.

You want to go to the road less traveled? There are nice islands off of Colombia,
Santa Marta was memorable. Went there a long long time ago though.
August 8, 2013 9:52 AM - bfar
Randi, I totally hear you. I felt totally useless until the kid started taking a bottle, and I finally felt like I was useful in some capacity. And ditto what scott said; kids are very very often a total pain in the ass. The number of people who told me how whatever age my children were was 'the best age' and I very nearly punched them... oy.

This, btw, is me in the hospital right after kid #1. This attempted solution did not work.
August 8, 2013 9:54 AM - Deleted
August 8, 2013 9:55 AM - Biff Champion
bfar, that is both funny and disturbing at the same time.
Edited at August 8, 2013 9:55 AM
August 8, 2013 9:56 AM - petebklyn
We don't do resorts. Icky rich people(hope not offending anybody here).

I was not serious about the niece/dance thing. I think it is very common for people to get ribbed about new baby and all that goes with it. If the child were born wit medical issues and made fun of that then that would be wrong. But am sure Randi going to get teased from lot of people about being stay at home dad.

August 8, 2013 9:56 AM - Biff Champion
I worked in Aruba for a few months. I really liked the island but that was many years ago when the beaches were still quite empty. Beautiful white sand and clear water. It may be much different now, but was beautiful back then.
Edited at August 8, 2013 9:56 AM
August 8, 2013 9:57 AM - bxgrl
Right benson- busting chops. You have a long history of "busting chops", but frankly, I don't believe you for a minute. Humor has never been your strong suite.
August 8, 2013 9:58 AM - bxgrl
Bfar- and I can tell you why- you have no nipples on those containers! seriously- what were you thinking? Tsk tsk.
August 8, 2013 10:00 AM - dibs
I would NEVER do a destination resort. I want to be able to walk around and go to othwer restaurants/bars in a CITY. Places that require you to really remain in a destination resort are no fun. besides, I'm really not interested in spending time on a beach either.
August 8, 2013 10:03 AM - BoerumHillScott
Never done a destination resort or a cruise, and I don't think I would like either. When I travel I like to move around and explore, not stay in one place.
August 8, 2013 10:04 AM - Biff Champion
"I would NEVER do a destination resort"

Because they don't allow prostitutes on resorts!
August 8, 2013 10:05 AM - petebklyn
We don't hang out at beach or pool but nice to visit them. I think what appeals about bermuda is driving around on the moped....a little snorkeling, a little kayaking...they have lot of coves and such there. Nice main town of Hamilton and such.
August 8, 2013 10:07 AM - dibs
That would be one of the reasons, Biff.
August 8, 2013 10:07 AM - petebklyn
I remember picking up and holding one of my nephews when newborn infant. I was shirtless and he went right for the nipples.
Edited at August 8, 2013 10:07 AM
August 8, 2013 10:08 AM - DeLepp
Never done a cruise or resort. Would think I would like a cruise up Norway's coast and see the Fjords.
August 8, 2013 10:09 AM - bfar
(Randi, you're also going to get a lot of crap from people on the street. In my experience, mostly middle-aged to older women telling you shit you're doing wrong. Again, don't hit them, but feel free to yell at them if you need to. I found that made me feel a lot better afterwards compared to pretending to be nice. I don't know if it's because the kids are older or because I have two, or just because I don't get out of the house anymore, but that has thankfully gone way down in the last year or two. But I did get into an amazing screaming match with some lady on the streets of crown heights when kid1 was around 18m)
August 8, 2013 10:10 AM - rezmo
damn....folks get started early here. Randi - thanks for the preview into the joys of fatherhood awaiting me.....sounds like a blast (zzzzz). I think I'm most excited for the walking, talking, exciting stages that happen a bit later.....early on seems like just a mission in keeping a crying hungry pooping thing alive. Well that, and the joys and wonders of "I made that person, ain't it grand".
Edited at August 8, 2013 10:10 AM
August 8, 2013 10:13 AM - dibs
I've done a lot of cruising while on vacation. No boats involved
August 8, 2013 10:15 AM - BoerumHillScott
I got lots of judgmental comments and even more looks when I would be out with just me and my son. When her mother was with us, it went down 90%. I found it ended after a year or so, or perhaps I just leaned to ignore.
August 8, 2013 10:17 AM - BoerumHillScott
On the topic of real estate, I got a message that my tenants in California are interested in making an offer to buy the place. They still have over 10 months left on their current lease.

My previous plan had been to sell when their lease was up in summer 2014, so I would be able to buy a place here when my lease is up in spring 2015.

Right now I make a slight profit on the rental, but also have negative cash flow. In other words, after all expenses I cover the interest and part of the principal on my mortgage.
Prices seem to be inching upwards, and are well off of the lows of 3 years ago. Inventory is at reasonable levels.

My initial thought is to make them a firm proposal at the high end of recent comps, and if they say no don’t negotiate and put the place on the market as scheduled next summer.

Any thoughts?

August 8, 2013 10:19 AM - bxgrl
Sounds reasonable to me, scott.
August 8, 2013 10:25 AM - petebklyn
any capital gains or losses in equation?
August 8, 2013 10:28 AM - BoerumHillScott
There will be some small capital gains, but no real difference between selling now or next year. My tax situtation will be similar both years.
August 8, 2013 10:28 AM - Partridge
They clearly want to buy more than you want to sell. It will be their obligation to entice you with an offer that compels you. High end of recent comps, or above, is what they should be offering. You can likely stand pretty firm but don't be stubborn. Remember the real cost in finding another buyer.
August 8, 2013 10:29 AM - Deleted
i'm sure they expect some sort of discount over market for living there already. not that they s hould
August 8, 2013 10:32 AM - Legion
One long term financial strategy states that one should never sell real estate.
Go long.
August 8, 2013 10:37 AM - Legion
Depends what folks mean about resorts.
By resort I mean a quality hotel with grounds, services (room service, especially), pools, beach, restaurant.
I'm not talking necessarily about a compound where you are limited to the specific choices on site.
One of my favorite things to do is explore and drive/walk/bike.

One thing I'm not fond of is going to an island where you are at risk if you leave the grounds. That's a deal breaker since I don't think a vacation should entail full emersion into the thug culture of a particular area. I got enough of that in NYC already over the years.
Also depends on what you want out of the vacation, I've stayed in some dodgy places in Mexico just to have easy access to ruins, but at the same time those vacations were very memorable. Other times, I've gone high end for a more relaxing vacation.
August 8, 2013 10:38 AM - Arkady
Scott - They probably sense that prices are going up & want to get current price. Had you mentioned your eventual plan to them? If so, you can cite that when you tell them that you have had a strategy based on your own timetable. That way you don't seem over-reaching if you say you'd like to wait to see market when their lease is up.
August 8, 2013 10:39 AM - Partridge
I don't think so, DH. Not with the leverage Scott currently has over them.
August 8, 2013 10:39 AM - bxgrl
Today is World Cat Day. I'm well prepared.
August 8, 2013 10:39 AM - BoerumHillScott
I need to cash out of LA if I am going to purchase here.
In addition, the management overhead of renting out a condo 3000 miles away is pretty high.

For the next 10 months, things are in my favor, but I would rather the place not sit empty for months next summer when I am looking for a buyer.
I also worry about repair bills. Neither my unit nor the condo complex have had any major projects in at least the last 9 years, and it is just a matter of time before a big bill comes due.
August 8, 2013 10:42 AM - BoerumHillScott
I have not told them any of my plans, and I am playing dumb with my rental management agent right now, who is the go-between.
August 8, 2013 10:42 AM - Arkady
Most of my Carib experience has been work-based & I've just taken time off after the show to stay where I was so it's been primarily resorts but some are less prosaic than others & you can feel as if you're not in a Miami condo. I like to wander & go to places recommended by locals, not the contrived tourist traps - places w/ mo-peds make that more easily done.
Edited at August 8, 2013 10:42 AM
August 8, 2013 10:45 AM - MontroseMorris
Ah, morning on the OT. The usual crap, I see.

Rob spews his venom, and only Benson finds it funny. Wow, no surprise there.

I hardly see the humor is someone telling a new father "At least the thing is wearing diapers though..." His child is "the thing????" Yeah, really, really, slap your knee and have tears running down your face FUNNY! If someone called Benson's daughter "the thing," there'd be a lot less laughing, and a whole lot of fists flailing.

Dona and Cobble are right, rob wants to be banned, so we can fight WW3 about how awful some of us are for not having a sense of humor, or allowing free speech. He's not banned from reading it, and can watch the fight, and glory in the waves of vicarious attention. All attention is good attention, after all. So much for "one post a day."
Edited at August 8, 2013 10:59 AM
August 8, 2013 10:45 AM - Legion
If you're not into a real estate in the long term, sounds like you're unloading a constant concern so that seems like the right choice to sell.
If you're still interested in passive income, then you should consider investing in a two family here if at all possible. You get the best of both worlds where rental availability always hovers around 3%. Location,.....
August 8, 2013 10:46 AM - bxgrl
I never understood a place like Sandals which is like an enclave where you don't leave the compound.
August 8, 2013 10:51 AM - Deleted

I believe that Pete also came to Rob's defense, and suggested that people are not seeing the humour in what he wrote. But hey, I do enjoy having a second home: your head.
August 8, 2013 10:51 AM - MontroseMorris
I never understood resorts to Caribbean islands where they pick you up at the airport, drive to to the walled compound, which you never leave, and then take you back to the airport. You could stay in the US for all you "see" the country you are in.

The worst was the Club Med that used to be in Haiti. How could anyone go to Haiti knowing that right outside your walls was the poorest country on earth?
August 8, 2013 10:52 AM - bfar
Back when i did improv, we did a tour of Jamaica, and the only place where we got consistent laughs was at Sandals, because, generally, people at resorts don't have any tension to laugh off, while it seemed like all the people at Sandals were desperately trying to save their marriages.
August 8, 2013 10:53 AM - MontroseMorris
Benson, don't flatter yourself. You are only a legend in your own mind.
August 8, 2013 10:54 AM - Deleted
One of the reasons I like going on cruises is that you get the best of two styles of vacation. A cruise ship is a resort, but at the same time you get to stop at different places (like a tour) and sample different sites and restaurants.
August 8, 2013 10:54 AM - Deleted
August 8, 2013 10:56 AM - BoerumHillScott
Quote from rob this morning: "i am just vocal about the things i dont like. that's not humor."

That seems to negate the theories that he is just trying to be funny.

Anyway, off to two+ hours of meetings.
Thanks for the advice so far.
I think I will write up something for the management agent and let her use her discretion regarding what to tell the tenants.

August 8, 2013 10:56 AM - bfar
My grandmother tried to get my family to go on a cruise. It sounded like a week in a Trump hotel - tacky, expensive, and surrounded by people who like tacky and expensive. We all said no.
August 8, 2013 10:59 AM - bfar
Scott, your point about it sitting empty is a good one; if you sold to the tenants, there would be close to zero transition, which is worth several grand at least. And I'm sure there are a lot of other costs associated with prepping for sale that you might avoid. So even if you aim at the higher end of the price range, def keep those savings in mind.
August 8, 2013 11:07 AM - petebklyn
flights booked. reserved a place -- simple studio nice grounds...use of a kayak and property is on water but not a beach but can swim off dock.
Sounds like owners house with 2 vacation rentals to help pay the mortgage.
If Bloomie is there same wkend he might invite us over for dinner.
Edited at August 8, 2013 11:07 AM
August 8, 2013 11:09 AM - petebklyn
and of course no realtor fee. But of course buyer/tenant will be wanting discount because of that.
I would pretend that cash flow is real good and hate to sell but if they give you full value you'll agree because you think they are nice people.
August 8, 2013 11:10 AM - Deleted
How could anyone go to Haiti knowing that right outside your walls was the poorest country on earth?

How is this any different than the moonface-centric blog you write for?! It's not. The people who cheerlead that detritus-centric geographics are exactly the same.
August 8, 2013 11:14 AM - Deleted
i think rob might like hate-eeee
August 8, 2013 11:16 AM - MontroseMorris
Um, no, rob.

But by all means, continue to trash the blog that YOU chose to read, after which, YOU chose to socialize with the people who also read it, aka the "cheerleaders." To make matters worse, here it is down the road five years, and you still won't leave us alone. Says more about you than it says about us.
August 8, 2013 11:17 AM - bxgrl
Rob = pwned
August 8, 2013 11:25 AM - Legion
There is truth to rob's post about brownstoner-specific demographics vs. surrounding neighborhood reality.
A resort amid third world problems is a stark contrast just as a 3 million dollar brownstone is to a section-8 one bedroom for a family of 4.
There are still housing projects in Fort Greene.
August 8, 2013 11:26 AM - Deleted
August 8, 2013 11:26 AM - Deleted
"Quote from rob this morning: "i am just vocal about the things i dont like. that's not humor."
That seems to negate the theories that he is just trying to be funny."

August 8, 2013 11:27 AM - Partridge
"The people who cheerlead that detritus-centric geographics are exactly the same."

Like you, Mr. ParkSlope?
August 8, 2013 11:27 AM - Deleted
i think rob might like hate-eeee

DH in for the kill!!!
August 8, 2013 11:28 AM - Deleted
August 8, 2013 11:29 AM - Deleted
wow, rob getting PWND left and right today. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!
August 8, 2013 11:32 AM - Deleted
i'm tired of talking about rob
August 8, 2013 11:34 AM - bxgrl
Can we talk about cats, DH? It IS world cat day you know.
August 8, 2013 11:36 AM - Deleted
yesss! cat time!
August 8, 2013 11:38 AM - pepper
Yes, let's talk about cats...
August 8, 2013 11:40 AM - DeLepp
Gracious, all these yammering about rob is boring. If so many of you think he is the bully of the board why not reach back into your history and deal with him like you would have on the playground, ignore.
Edited at August 8, 2013 11:40 AM
August 8, 2013 11:41 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
cats? why yes, please! some fun cat facts...

On average, cats spend 2/3 of every day sleeping. That means a nine-year-old cat has been awake for only three years of its life.

The technical term for a cat’s hairball is a “bezoar.”

A group of cats is called a “clowder.”

According to Hebrew legend, Noah prayed to God for help protecting all the food he stored on the ark from being eaten by rats. In reply, God made the lion sneeze, and out popped a cat.
August 8, 2013 11:42 AM - Partridge
"There is truth to rob's post about brownstoner-specific demographics vs. surrounding neighborhood reality."

Yes, obviously. The lie is his disdain for it. He lives in and loves Park Slope. For God's sake you Rob worshipers are as bad as the characters surrounding Chauncey Gardiner in Being There. He was just a gardener. You could deify a rock!

Did someone say cats?
Edited at August 8, 2013 11:42 AM
August 8, 2013 11:44 AM - pepper
Edited at August 8, 2013 11:44 AM
August 8, 2013 11:47 AM - Deleted
"Gracious, all these yammering about rob is boring. If so many of you think he is the bully of the board why not reach back into your history and deal with him like you would have on the playground, ignore."

Worth repeating.
August 8, 2013 11:48 AM - bxgrl
we find rob's yammering to be boring.
August 8, 2013 11:51 AM - Arkady
Bfar - What's happening w/ your house purchase?
August 8, 2013 11:51 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
more cat facts...

The oldest cat on record was Crème Puff from Austin, Texas, who lived from 1967 to August 6, 2005, three days after her 38th birthday.

Cats are extremely sensitive to vibrations. Cats are said to detect earthquake tremors 10 or 15 minutes before humans can.

August 8, 2013 11:54 AM - Legion
"Yes, obviously. The lie is his disdain for it. He lives in and loves Park Slope. For God's sake you Rob worshipers are as bad as the characters surrounding Chauncey Gardiner in Being There. He was just a gardener. You could deify a rock!"

I don't believe that one becomes a "Rob worshiper" simply because there is truth to be found in a post of his.
Partridge, you are obviously trying to jump on him for something you don't like but others have found no great offense in.

Park Slope is a different dynamic than Fort Greene, brownstoner's base.
Again, his point there is that he moved to an already high priced locale while brownstoner was leading a charge for greater gains.
August 8, 2013 11:54 AM - DeLepp
snaps, did Mr Bu react earlier than the rest of us when you mentioned your impending marriage?
August 8, 2013 11:56 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
indeed he did, delepp. he quickly learned to speak english and asked, 'and who the hell do you think you are moving into this apartment without my pre-approval????'
Edited at August 8, 2013 11:56 AM
August 8, 2013 12:04 PM - Arkady
Bad vibes from the street milling have my guys climbing walls today.
August 8, 2013 12:11 PM - bxgrl
when we had the earthquakes my cats started acting very anxious but i really didn't pay much attention because i had a friend over and they get nervous around people they don't know. S I didn't think much about it until the building started swaying. Then I really paid attention.
August 8, 2013 12:19 PM - DeLepp
Speaking of the earthquake, is the washington monument still being fixed 2 years out? I remember seeing a night picture of it surrounded by scaffolding and lights and it looked quite beautiful.
August 8, 2013 12:23 PM - MontroseMorris
We've learned a lot more about cats since moving up to the country.
August 8, 2013 12:28 PM - bxgrl
DeLepp- I thought I read a few months back it was reopened.
August 8, 2013 12:28 PM - Partridge
Yes, Legion, you are worshipers of sorts. Day after day, he spews his garbage and day after day the same people defend it.

We all should just ignore him. Why isn't he being told to ignore comments he disagrees with?

You say I am jumping on him. Why don't you see that HE is jumping on everyone here save for his worshipers?

You guys hang on his words and pat him on the back for his meaningless comments as though you are hearing the word of God spoken. It is extremely odd.
August 8, 2013 12:33 PM - MontroseMorris
There is a huge amount of difference between poverty in Haiti and poverty in the US. Making the comparison that someone moving into a gentryfying neighborhood is like a tourist at Club Med is really stretching the bounds of reasonable comparison, Legion. Haiti has its rich elite, and everyone else is poor, there is such a small middle class, if you blink you'll miss them. There is nothing there that is comparable to here. Even the most extreme examples here, with projects on one end of a block and mansions on the other, comes nowhere near that vast gap. Comparing the two is insulting, as it trivializes poverty in both cases.

Brownstoner may put a spotlight on the changes in neighborhoods, but it hardly "leads the charge for greater gains." You give the blog much more power than it has. And his base is not in Fort Greene. It's Clinton Hill. A small difference, indeed, but if you are going to toss blame on him, at least be accurate.
Edited at August 8, 2013 12:37 PM
August 8, 2013 12:36 PM - Deleted
rob can dish it out but can't take it. everyone here is able to take a joke at their own expense (to different degrees).
August 8, 2013 12:37 PM - Legion
I have to disagree again partridge.
My day started with my comments about the bull sack hairy ball bag.
I then discussed vacation spots in the Caribbean and real estate strategies.

The rob comments were on another vector altogether so I hardly think I was waiting at the alter so to speak,
hanging on his words.

It's all part of the crazy scenery here. Not sure why you are trying to set it up as us vs. them.
August 8, 2013 12:40 PM - DeLepp
bxgrl, according to the "Amazon Post" it is still under repair.

August 8, 2013 12:42 PM - MontroseMorris
Well, Legion, because the so-called "politics of class warfare" is an invented construct of the Right. I am not a defender of something that doesn't exist.

August 8, 2013 12:42 PM - bxgrl
That's the problem, deLepp- my dying brain cells can imagine any scenario :)
August 8, 2013 12:47 PM - Legion
I hardly think class warfare is an invented construct when the entire political emphasis
of this administration is that half of America is being robbed by the other half of the population actually paying taxes.

Remember: "you didn't build that!"
August 8, 2013 12:49 PM - Partridge
I never said your pro-Rob comments are made to the exclusion of other comments.

It become us vs. them when only the people who object to Rob's comments are being told to lighten up, ignore or enjoy the joke. The sides are being drawn with those comments. If we all should allow Rob to post as he likes, saying whatever he wants, no matter who he hurts or offends, then grant the SAME privilege to those who speak out against those comments, NO?
August 8, 2013 12:49 PM - Deleted
oh god - from rob talk to obamatalk - later
August 8, 2013 12:50 PM - DeLepp
damn, so much for the salad for lunch, having a hankering for a pacakage of :

Edited at August 8, 2013 12:50 PM
August 8, 2013 12:51 PM - Legion
feel free to speak out against rob as many do,
I'm not here to censor you after all.

My problem is that you are attempting to categorize anyone who disagrees with the "anti-rob" contingent as
I'm not into any sort of groupthink, so I'm naturally going to object.
August 8, 2013 12:56 PM - Legion
if you truly feel that way,
then why are you the first defender of the politics of class warfare?
...after all, it's trivializing poverty to even paint such a picture amid overfed Americans.
Edited at August 8, 2013 12:56 PM
August 8, 2013 12:58 PM - Deleted
Remember: "you didn't build that!"

Remember: it was taken out of context. Full quote:

There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me — because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t — look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That’s how we funded the GI Bill. That’s how we created the middle class. That’s how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That’s how we invented the Internet. That’s how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that’s the reason I’m running for President — because I still believe in that idea. You’re not on your own, we’re in this together.
Edited at August 8, 2013 12:58 PM
August 8, 2013 12:59 PM - Deleted
August 8, 2013 1:02 PM - Deleted
haha totally. this is the key line to me, what he was really trying to say....

"The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. "

Edited at August 8, 2013 1:02 PM
August 8, 2013 1:03 PM - Deleted
key lime??? nom!
August 8, 2013 1:04 PM - MontroseMorris
But well said, nonetheless, Randi.
August 8, 2013 1:04 PM - Legion
tl:dr :o)

...gotta go now,
will discuss politics later though.

Lunch calling.
August 8, 2013 1:05 PM - MontroseMorris
Later, ladies and gentlemen. Gotta do some work.
August 8, 2013 1:06 PM - pepper
Very sage advice, DeLepp...
August 8, 2013 1:07 PM - Deleted
everyones twerkin!
August 8, 2013 1:17 PM - bxgrl
I loved that speech, randi.

And legion- it wasn't Obama who started the whole class warfare thing. He simply recognized it for what it was- you really can't tell me the republicans have not made it a point to separate themselves from the rest of thei country- the middle class, the working poor, the downright poor.
August 8, 2013 1:18 PM - bfar
Hey Arkady- The house is moving, glacially, forward (their delays costing us >100k of its lifetime in the interest rate being higher and mortgage insurance rules changing)... waiting on the appraisal for the 203k thing, hopefully it will be high enough that we can move forward to trying to break our psychotic landlord's lease. Always something.

Still, we do love the house and the nabe. For all the pain in the ass, current and definitely future, that this process is, I'm still hoping it works out.

August 8, 2013 1:21 PM - bxgrl
Excellent comment, bfar!
Edited at August 8, 2013 1:21 PM
August 8, 2013 1:22 PM - pepper
I'm not twerkin', but these bears are...
Edited at August 8, 2013 1:22 PM
August 8, 2013 1:23 PM - bfar
Damn. It appears my typewriter ribbon dried out on that last post.

Arkady- House moving forward, albeit glacially (their slow-ass-selves have already cost us >100k over 30 years in interest rate changes, insurance rule changes, etc.) currently waiting for results of the 203k-req'd appraisal, which will hopefully be high enough to make it work. Then we get to go fight with our psychotic LL to let us out of our current lease. The fun never stops. But, we both love the house and the nabe and are hopeful we can make it all work. I guess we'll see.
August 8, 2013 1:27 PM - Deleted
lol @ MM ignoring the ever widening class divide and kicking out of the middle class in NYC. Hells she was a victim of the same thing she cheerleads! but i can say the sun is warm and she would still insist i am talking out of my ass. it's just shooting the messenger, not the message.. and her and the other warsh women are experts at that.
August 8, 2013 1:28 PM - Deleted
and before anyone claims i hate women, DH and Randiflower are part of that group.

August 8, 2013 1:29 PM - Arkady
It will have been worth it, bfar.
August 8, 2013 1:43 PM - bfar
Hopefully. It's a little disturbing that it could all still fall through. But, it's not like we're homeless at the moment, either. We'll see.
August 8, 2013 1:43 PM - bxgrl
Except, rob- you dislike them because they don't agree with you. But you constantly refer to the women with gender references "mean girls,", warsh women, etc.
August 8, 2013 1:45 PM - Deleted
August 8, 2013 1:52 PM - MontroseMorris
Rob, come back when you know what you are talking about. Until then, STFU. I was not forced out of my neighborhood because the prices went up. I owned my house. I left NYC because I could not find a full time job that gave me enough money to pay my bills. That was because of a GLOBAL recession, not yuppies moving into the neighborhood, or moonface bars, or even a rise in rent. It was not personal. Unlike you, I don't think the world actually revolves around me.

And I hardly ignore the class divide. Once again, you show your massive ignorance of me, or anything I believe. Why bother, when you can make it all up? And WTF does "warsh women" mean?
Edited at August 8, 2013 1:54 PM
August 8, 2013 1:53 PM - Deleted
ferris bueler house for sale
Edited at August 8, 2013 1:53 PM
August 8, 2013 1:53 PM - BoerumHillScott
I had a wonderful lunch at the Jersey City Hyatt, at the end of a pier 40 feet above the water with great views of Manhattan. Had the salad Grilled trout, avocado, and palm hearts. Best of all, a vendor paid.
August 8, 2013 1:56 PM - Deleted
scott ballin
August 8, 2013 1:57 PM - BoerumHillScott
As of last week, the Washington Monument was 100% covered in scaffolding, with construction fences keeping people from getting closer than 100 yards or more.
Edited at August 8, 2013 1:57 PM
August 8, 2013 1:59 PM - Donatella
Clearly I am not a morning person. As I have mentioned here before, we had one toilet for 8 butts during my formative years; we learned not to talk much in the morning, just shut up, go about your business and get out of the house. The best I can do socially is not say anything. I should not read anything either.

As far as humor is concerned, thanks Bfar. And yeah, I'm with dh, tired of talking about rob.

So, what else were you talking about?
August 8, 2013 2:00 PM - Deleted
kanye west?
August 8, 2013 2:07 PM - bxgrl
I'm tired of 2 things.

1. I'm tired of the nasty and mean-spirited shit rob posts everyday
2. I'm tired of people being told it's ok for rob to post whatever but not ok for them to say anything about it.
August 8, 2013 2:08 PM - Deleted
So I have a prescription at Duane Reade waiting for me. It's ONE month supply of it. Guess how much it costs? 800 dollars. Yes. EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS. And I need to take this for FOUR MONTHS. Found out that I have a separate pharmacy deductible!!!!!!!! WITH A COPAY! My doctor's office was then able to call in a coupon for the medication so now it only costs me 30 dollars. They told me they will be able to get me more coupons when I get more refills. I am BEYOND chary of this whole thing. I think my doctor is using me as a lab rat.

August 8, 2013 2:10 PM - Deleted


Some people need to stop being so sheltered and coddled. absurd! Youre only dog piling on me and PRETENDING what I say is so offensive. please, there's nothing offensive about anything i say.
August 8, 2013 2:11 PM - Deleted
August 8, 2013 2:12 PM - Donatella
oh Scott, I wanted to say that I have ideas about living in Washington DC too. I have gone periodically for work -- our regulator is there and there were lots of conferences I went to hosted there (now the commodities biz is dominated by compliance people post Dodd Frank) and I always stayed at Dupont Circle, which has some of the feel of Brownstone Brooklyn due to the townhouses and Beaux Arts buildings around there. However the feel of the place is that nothing has grown organically, that it is a place of transients, that it has a kind of clipped and perfect feel that feels a little like Disneyland. Also that strangely, I sort of like it. I had an amazing time down there the last time I went. First, I just needed a tiny little respite from everything and I was lucky enough to latch on to an art historian at the Smithsonian who gave a tour of the Smithsonian American Museum of Art. She could see that we were really into her lecture, which integrated a lot of American History with all of this amazing art that she continued well past when the lecture was supposed to be over. But that is the kind of thing you can get at the Smithsonian in DC. Lectures, tours, events -- the Metropolitan Museum of Art has these things - fusty little talks at 11 am on a Tuesday, for a hefty price, especially for dowagers who lunch. Not exactly accessable. In DC, I had so much fun. And I went in April when the city is exploding in cherry blossoms and the gardens are coming alive. It was great. And I could live there to work. But I would have to have a landing pad in Brooklyn since Brooklyn is home. My cousin and her husband just moved there; he is working for the treasury.
Edited at August 8, 2013 2:14 PM
August 8, 2013 2:13 PM - Deleted
baby talk baby talk waaaaah
August 8, 2013 2:13 PM - Arkady
My grandfather jumped over the top of the Washington Monument. It hadn't been put up yet & many people in DC at the time did it.
August 8, 2013 2:14 PM - Deleted
Paragraphs are wonderful things.
Edited at August 8, 2013 2:14 PM
August 8, 2013 2:14 PM - Partridge
Thanks for the summery, Bx. That is pretty much what I was trying to say earlier.

Did a little roots touch-up at home this morning. Looks way better. Funny how I don't see my mother in the mirror, I see my grandmother sometimes. Scary!

I'm on way to run a few errands while stockboy watches the shop. Later folks.
August 8, 2013 2:15 PM - Deleted
says the 36 year old man who constantly sounds like a bitchy teenaged girl on Maury.
August 8, 2013 2:16 PM - Deleted
cuz it's not mean if it's true!
August 8, 2013 2:19 PM - BoerumHillScott
Donatella, sounds like a great museum time.
I agree with your feelings about DC.

One more thing about DC that I don’t think I have mentioned yet: the close to total lack of street retail in the government districts. With so many the blocks being 100% taken up with single government buildings in some areas, there is no place for delis, pizza places, drug stores, or any of the dozens of other businesses on a typical Manhattan block.
While there were a few overpriced food trucks in some areas, there were also no street vendors of any sort. I guess most of the government workers eat at their building cafeterias.

Edited at August 8, 2013 2:25 PM
August 8, 2013 2:19 PM - Partridge
Poor, poor Rezmo. I will think back fondly on his OT day.
August 8, 2013 2:26 PM - Deleted
I take zero offense to that, DH.

August 8, 2013 2:30 PM - Deleted
August 8, 2013 2:31 PM - Deleted
DH that ferris bueller house is near where i grew up in the moonface breeding lands of norther illinois. its been on the market forever, must be something wrong with it other that its an ugly POS.

i was gonna make a list of things rob has said today i found offensive, but i don't care anymore. someone said to ignore, so i'll try that for now on. for some reason i thought it was possible to rationalize with him LOL he is way too stupid.
August 8, 2013 2:32 PM - MontroseMorris
"Youre only dog piling on me and PRETENDING what I say is so offensive. please, there's nothing offensive about anything i say."

Yeah, right.
August 8, 2013 2:32 PM - pepper
Actually rob, pretty much everything you say is offensive...
August 8, 2013 2:33 PM - Deleted
" i grew up in the moonface breeding lands of norther illinois"

August 8, 2013 2:33 PM - Deleted
word randi - looks nice up there - i could definitely use some solitary time in the woods right about now.
August 8, 2013 2:33 PM - rezmo
partridge, I'm not out for the count just yet.
August 8, 2013 2:34 PM - BoerumHillScott
The sad thing is that people have tried to let rob know in so many direct and subtle ways that he is offensive, but he keeps ratcheting up level.

One of the many reasons he is heading toward being banned.

August 8, 2013 2:37 PM - pepper
Good to see you still here, rezmo...
August 8, 2013 2:41 PM - Arkady
A little dissension is more stimulating than just saccharine ooh & ah & unanimity.
August 8, 2013 2:41 PM - bxgrl
Hi rezmo :)

Hey randi- does the house come with the crashed car? :)
August 8, 2013 2:42 PM - bxgrl
LOL- I hardly think we suffer from an abundance of "saccharine ooh & ah & unanimity." on the OT.
Edited at August 8, 2013 2:42 PM
August 8, 2013 2:44 PM - Deleted
A little dissension to describe rob is understatement of the day
August 8, 2013 2:44 PM - DeLepp
As for the ferris bueller house sounds like owners/brokers are giving to much credence($$) to being in a 80s film.
August 8, 2013 2:46 PM - BoerumHillScott
I love dissension.
I don't like the site I run being such a cesspool.

August 8, 2013 2:48 PM - dibs
Hi assholes. back from the two shows. Only bought a book.

Lots of these signs up here....
Edited at August 8, 2013 2:48 PM
August 8, 2013 2:53 PM - Deleted
i'm not outraged and i am paying attention. any other options???
August 8, 2013 2:53 PM - Deleted
i sense the big M coming my way (nh)....
August 8, 2013 2:54 PM - Deleted
i didn't know the elderly could do graphic design. THANKS OBAMA
August 8, 2013 2:56 PM - Legion
Too many rainbows and unicorns make things stale.

...and who gave Scott the authority to ban anyone!!!
I want to know the answer Right NOW!!!
August 8, 2013 2:56 PM - DeLepp
Well the sweetheart healthcare deal for congress/staffers was not a surprise. Another back door deal when they could have just given them raises to cover the extra premiums so that they could partake in obamacare like the rest of us.
August 8, 2013 2:58 PM - BoerumHillScott
My guess is that almost no one with those signs voted for Obama, similar to all the anti-Bush bumper stickers I saw in Los Angeles.

By most objective standards, Obama has been a pretty moderate president with outrage-worthy charactertistics being within norms.
I am not saying that is good, but it is consistant with past presidents.
August 8, 2013 3:00 PM - Deleted
I love dissension.
I don't like the site I run being such a cesspool.

yet u have no problem with the place reeking like cat urine?
Edited at August 8, 2013 3:00 PM
August 8, 2013 3:02 PM - bxgrl
well rob- since this is the internet, and you're smelling it, it has to be in your house.
August 8, 2013 3:02 PM - rezmo
anyone have a lead for me on an affordable handyman/contractor to take care of my bathroom reno? Trying to get someone to give me a quote <$10k - seems it should be doable, no? I'd also take rec's on a mason to take care of my backyard woes - I've got a monster retaining wall that is the bane of my existence.

I'm happy to get into details if anyone finds my house matters of interest - alternatively feel free to proceed with the rob bashing - I'd hate to just dig my way deeper into my snobble hole (although the hipster douche beer selection here is extensive).
August 8, 2013 3:03 PM - BoerumHillScott
I highly recommend all of you who like rob's rants set up another site.
In reality, there is close to no good reason for this site to be on a separate server, we have not taken advantage of any real customization like I thought we might when it was set up.

It takes close to no time to set up a Wordpress site with very similar functionality.

Edited at August 8, 2013 3:04 PM
August 8, 2013 3:03 PM - Deleted
lol rezmo!
August 8, 2013 3:05 PM - bxgrl
We love house matters, rezmo. That's why the snobbles stick together :)

How much reno does your bathroom need? down to the studs?
August 8, 2013 3:08 PM - Legion
'sup rezmo.
Edited at August 8, 2013 3:08 PM
August 8, 2013 3:09 PM - rezmo
yeah - we'll take it down to the studs, but not moving any of the fixtures - just doing a switcharoo on the direction of the pocket door to build in a linen closet.
August 8, 2013 3:09 PM - Deleted
scott throwing down! i like it.

how about a feature where you can hide posts, then i could just hide everything rob posts and forget he is even here!
August 8, 2013 3:10 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Well it's all just peace and love in here today. I think we need some more STFU, so this is me saying STFU.
August 8, 2013 3:11 PM - Deleted
LOL, drudge with the awesome scoop about a lineup change at faux news!

who Megyn Kelly? is she some hyperbolic moron like ann coulter?
August 8, 2013 3:12 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Hello rezmo - did I miss your appearance? You're new to me...
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August 8, 2013 3:12 PM - Deleted
lol @ that pic legion (for the zillionth time)
August 8, 2013 3:15 PM - Deleted
6, rezmo is the new guy. rob already insulted him but he stuck around.
Edited at August 8, 2013 3:15 PM
August 8, 2013 3:16 PM - Legion
Who is Megyn Kelly?

...she's hot and smart,
and that's all you need to know!
Edited at August 8, 2013 3:16 PM
August 8, 2013 3:17 PM - pepper
He showed up yesterday morning around 11:30, six...
August 8, 2013 3:17 PM - Deleted
August 8, 2013 3:17 PM - BoerumHillScott
I looked into an ignore feature, but there are none that fit easily into the site.
August 8, 2013 3:18 PM - rezmo
yes indeed - wandered in yesterday to warm welcomes from most and certification as wannabe moonface by rob (his version of hospitality i take it). I appear to be fitting right in.
Edited at August 8, 2013 3:18 PM
August 8, 2013 3:18 PM - dibs
Six, rezmo has been here since yesterday.

Maybe if you paid attention and learned to STFU, you'd know
August 8, 2013 3:21 PM - bxgrl
Megan Kelly can surprise you sometimes. She was the one who insisted their analyst's call on the Presidential race was correct and Karl rove was wrong. she was pretty strong about it. She's said a couple of other things on occasion that lead me to beleive she might have a brain under the faux newswig.
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August 8, 2013 3:21 PM - Arkady
dibs & CG can probably recommend someone, Rezmo.
August 8, 2013 3:23 PM - dibs
Might I be the first to take a personal swipe at rezmo???

Those glasses on your avatar make you look like a douchey hipster.

Oh,and while I'm at it...... :)
August 8, 2013 3:23 PM - bxgrl
Is 10,000 going to be enough? You're erplacing the walls, floors, tile and having a new wall built- is that about right?
August 8, 2013 3:24 PM - dibs
CGar's contractor sounds like one of the best from what I hear.

Apparently he can't be asked to post here very often though.
Edited at August 8, 2013 3:24 PM
August 8, 2013 3:25 PM - bxgrl
rezmo- dibs takes the best selfies!
August 8, 2013 3:25 PM - MontroseMorris
Megyn Kelley may be hot, like that matters in reading a script, but I'd hardly call her any smarter than the rest of them. She's just as right wing as the rest of the Faux News staff. I was at an event where she was a presenter, and she gratuitously, and quite inappropriately, bashed Obama while introducing a musical act. She gets the big FAIL in my book.
August 8, 2013 3:26 PM - petebklyn
my mason guy is good. Has built walls for me in my yard besides lots more am sure could do your bathroom too -- but your $$ figure limit has more to do with the price of your tiles and fixtures.
August 8, 2013 3:26 PM - MontroseMorris
But Bxgrl is right, she did call it that night. I forgive her a little bit.
August 8, 2013 3:28 PM - petebklyn
oh- his # is 646-523-7155. Shahab his name. and can say Peter from Baltic st gave you his name.
Arkady can recommend someone too
August 8, 2013 3:33 PM - Deleted
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August 8, 2013 3:34 PM - rezmo
DIBS - my first (well second, but does Rob even count?) personal swipe. I feel all warm and bubbly. Although, truth told the avatar is anything but douchey hipster.....just an actual nerdy 80's punk rock singer with a penchant for biochemistry (

We're replacing the tub too bxgrl - Im just talking labor costs though, leaving tiles out of the number. Best quote I've gotten so far was $11k from a LI contractor rec that came via my architect.....the GC's have been higher ~$17k, but was trying to bundle it with the backyard job (I'll get to that). If the number is right then I might just go with the that guy, but I thought just the labor could come in lower given the right folks.
August 8, 2013 3:35 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Welcome, rezmo - you come here from over there >>>>> or just general interwebz browsing?

STFU Dave!
August 8, 2013 3:36 PM - DeLepp
As for the news, ugh but have been pleasantly surprised that I'm enjoying charlie rose and nora o'donnell in the morning on CBS. Had to revert to the others stations due TWC/CBS fight and it's been terrible. Music from now on. McNeil/Lehrer is repeated at 10 and have been watching that.
August 8, 2013 3:36 PM - petebklyn
not $400 yoga fart pants but $400 PJs you can wear around town.
August 8, 2013 3:41 PM - rezmo
When baby rezmo comes along I'll be dressing him in one of these to carry on the douche hipster legacy!

August 8, 2013 3:42 PM - rezmo
or her....time will tell, but i've got bases covered as you can see.
August 8, 2013 3:44 PM - pepper
Pete, that link you posted links to this LIB thread....
August 8, 2013 3:45 PM - Deleted
those are fucking dope rezmo!
August 8, 2013 3:45 PM - Deleted
rezno hasnt said how he really wound up here. and funny how some strange new person shows up always before my banning... chary that! :-/
August 8, 2013 3:47 PM - petebklyn
Get some names from Partridge....people she has giving estimates will make yours sound cheap.
August 8, 2013 3:47 PM - Deleted
August 8, 2013 3:49 PM - pepper
I think your Avatar is kind of cute, rezmo.
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August 8, 2013 3:49 PM - petebklyn
paranoia runs deep...into your life it will starts when you're always afraid.....step out of line and they ban you
August 8, 2013 3:49 PM - petebklyn
never mind his avatar -- you should see him in person.
August 8, 2013 3:55 PM - Partridge
Who kidnapped Pete and is using his avatar?
Edited at August 8, 2013 3:55 PM
August 8, 2013 3:59 PM - Partridge
Walkies, is that you?
August 8, 2013 4:02 PM - dibs
Next page????
August 8, 2013 4:02 PM - dibs
So, I'm thinking of changing what I use for formal dinners in provincetown and, in going with the nautical/tea theme of the room, thinking of Chinese export porcelain.

So, what's everyone's opinion on early 19th C Chinese export porcelain as formal dinnerware?

I've already bought some soup rims and bread plates that are real antiques. But, the largest dinner plates are only 9 1/2" and although that's an ideal size for some things (h), not dinner plates.

But, Spode makes a modern pattern in an 11" dinner plate that I like....
Edited at August 8, 2013 4:02 PM
August 8, 2013 4:03 PM - petebklyn
what a joke....Save Gowanus ...from what? and bring a child and a friend! If you think gowanus is so toxic and flood prone that they shouldn't build apartments --then why are you living there with a child?
August 8, 2013 4:04 PM - rezmo
thanks for the rec Pete, I will give him a call. The backyard is the nightmare - GC's are quoting me near $100k for the backyard redo - demo the retaining wall, french drain, dry wells, foundation waterproofing on the 20ft of my building that juts out past the neighbor, hardscaping, fence, etc. It seems the bulk of the work and cost is the labor on the wall - just a lot of hard manual labor. Seems crazy to me to invest that much in the yard before we start touching the interior, but its in the interest of getting the basement less damp and the yard usable, and we're waiting on the interior work till we combine the lower 2 floors 5 years or so down the line. The bathroom downstairs is just gross though and my refuses to move downstairs (we're in the 2nd floor unit for now) until we pretty it up. What do you guys think?
August 8, 2013 4:05 PM - Deleted

ha! keep dreaming!
August 8, 2013 4:05 PM - petebklyn
Can't you afford new dishes and other things? Why do you keep buying used stuff?....who only knows where that stuff has been.
August 8, 2013 4:05 PM - Deleted
i saw that pete- its save gowanus from development. it makes zero sense.
August 8, 2013 4:06 PM - Deleted
i am awarding rezmo his first tl;dr!!!!
August 8, 2013 4:07 PM - rezmo
my first what, what, who?
August 8, 2013 4:08 PM - petebklyn
do you live on a hill/slope....why would there be such drainage issues?
August 8, 2013 4:09 PM - dibs
Here's the original 1800's dinner plates....only 9" but there were 11 of them that went cheaply for $354 (including buyer's premium)
Edited at August 8, 2013 4:09 PM
August 8, 2013 4:09 PM - petebklyn
you'd be welcome to see the extent of work he has done for me if you like. but I am only in city couple of nights a week.
August 8, 2013 4:10 PM - Deleted
those are lame dinner plates
August 8, 2013 4:11 PM - rezmo
yards of the neighbors to the east and the south are elevated about 5 feet, crumbling concrete wall on the east and rotting lumber retaining walls on the south - my yard has NO DRAINAGE.....just a huge pile of dirt pitched towards the house with astroturf covering it...its a miracle that I dont get water in the basement, but its a damp mosquito infested wasteland.
August 8, 2013 4:11 PM - petebklyn
if dinner plates are too large then can have problem fitting in upper cabinets - especially if have inset doors.
August 8, 2013 4:12 PM - Deleted
da fuq?
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August 8, 2013 4:12 PM - etson
I like the modern plate but not the antique ones.
August 8, 2013 4:13 PM - Deleted
rezmo- tl:dr = too long, didn't read
August 8, 2013 4:13 PM - Deleted
dang rezmo that sounds not cool. trick out that back yard so next summer you can drink moonface beers out there like a boss
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August 8, 2013 4:16 PM - Partridge
Plates that old typically have compromised glaze and should not be eaten from.
August 8, 2013 4:17 PM - dibs
Pete...they will fit in the corner cupboard with no problem.
August 8, 2013 4:18 PM - rezmo
DIBS - I have no opinions on dinnerware, but I know that my wife is jonesing for these - royal copenhagen blue fluted mega sort of a twist on what you've got up.....far pricier than I think plates have the right to be, but woe is me, the girls got expensive taste.
August 8, 2013 4:20 PM - petebklyn
If have an architect I would consult for ideas. my email is my screen name at hotmail if interested in seeing the work.

August 8, 2013 4:21 PM - etson
I like the look of fancy dinner services but I don't cook so not much point in buying one.
August 8, 2013 4:21 PM - DeLepp
When we come for dinner will we have to dress like this?

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August 8, 2013 4:21 PM - pepper
oh dear god, dh. fatbergs? yuck!
Edited at August 8, 2013 4:21 PM
August 8, 2013 4:23 PM - petebklyn
yeah, they are just for show. Just bring out the melmac for serving the food.
August 8, 2013 4:23 PM - Partridge
Love those, Rezmo. Saw them introduced a season or two ago at the Royal Copenhagen trade show booth. Spoke with the company about them. They are fantastic and the creation of a design student's. They bought the idea from her. Great way to make a classic more contemporary.
August 8, 2013 4:23 PM - rezmo
yeah, architect and contractor consensus is that its all gotta go and be rebuilt and proper drainage and detention tank installed - just trying to figure out how to get it done w/o being bled dry, alas. I'll shoot you an email, thanks pete!
August 8, 2013 4:24 PM - petebklyn
detention tank? sounds real kinky
August 8, 2013 4:27 PM - rezmo
Maybe i should have the wife run mistress sessions in the detention pay for the reno.
August 8, 2013 4:30 PM - rezmo
partridge - what sort of trade show? Are you a buyer or some such?
August 8, 2013 4:32 PM - Partridge
Yes, I am resident shopgirl.
August 8, 2013 4:33 PM - rezmo
uh oh, I best not let mrs. rezmo anywhere near you.
August 8, 2013 4:34 PM - Deleted
seriously rezmo, LP has some nice stuff
August 8, 2013 4:35 PM - Partridge
Thanks, Mr. Throw Pillow extraordinaire.
August 8, 2013 4:37 PM - rezmo
what's the store? odds are she is already a regular.
August 8, 2013 4:39 PM - Partridge
That's an offline question for me.
brooklyn partridge at gmail.
August 8, 2013 4:39 PM - BoerumHillScott
rezmo, get that back yard renovated so we can invade with a big-assed BBQ.
August 8, 2013 4:41 PM - dibs
I ordered it all in Spode. had good prices...better than
August 8, 2013 4:42 PM - dibs
Yes, I've bought some things there and so has X
August 8, 2013 4:45 PM - Partridge
And the shopgirl thanks you, Dave and X.
August 8, 2013 4:46 PM - rezmo
yep - once its done the bbqs will be magical, cost of admission - just a small offering of moonface beer!

What do you guys think though - nuts to invest that sort of dough on exterior before touching the interior in a significant way?
August 8, 2013 4:50 PM - BoerumHillScott
Assuming you plan on staying in the place for a while, it's all about personal priorities.
From what you said, there may also be some long term structural issues with not addressing the exterior, so I don’t think it’s nuts.

August 8, 2013 4:52 PM - MontroseMorris
I don't either, rezmo (HI, BTW). Makes no sense to work on the inside with the potential of water and God knows what going wrong from the outside. Mike Holmes, on Holmes on Homes, on HGTV/DIY channels would agree.
August 8, 2013 4:59 PM - etson
Sounds like you really need to do the work anyway so not nuts to address it first. Don't see that it would affect anything in the interior so the order is less important.
August 8, 2013 5:07 PM - DeLepp
rezmo, sounds like structural issues are the main concern. LP's shop is terrific, get your wife some Jewelry after first night out with the plusas.
August 8, 2013 5:07 PM - rezmo
yeah - the work should be done eventually but current structural consequence is just damp smelling basement. Spending this heavily on the yard now is going to push out the timeline to combine the apt's and do the interior renovation. Before we moved in I said - the apartments are ugly, let's agree to fix ours up soon. Its turned out that there's not that makes sense to do inside until we make combine the units. The yard is an obvious (and costly) place to start, and...I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel on getting the interior work done $$$$$$.
August 8, 2013 5:08 PM - Arkady
Milling's finished! Just had 4th Verizon tech & phone systems are working at long last! Life is good.
Edited at August 8, 2013 5:08 PM
August 8, 2013 5:09 PM - rezmo
I'm also a big hedger - we're not planning on moving anytime soon, but who knows, and if we did decide to skip town and sell the building I dont think I'll recoup much of that backyard reno cost.
August 8, 2013 5:11 PM - Arkady
Sounds as if you need a french drain/soak-away, rezmo. It's not terribly expensive & you could oversee casual labor to do it yourself w/ guys from HD. Dig a hole deeper than foundation; line bottom w/ landscape fabric; put in a p.v.c. pipe w/ holes in it; toss in rocks in ever-decreasing size up to pebble. You can sod or lay patio over it & it'll still work so your masonry doesn't get undermined & your basement stays dry.
August 8, 2013 5:15 PM - Arkady
One of the big drainage problems in Bklyn is the clay nature of the soil so very poor drainage.
Edited at August 8, 2013 5:15 PM
August 8, 2013 5:16 PM - bxgrl
rezmo- you've got a baby coming- i would think getting the interior done first would make the most sense. Address what you absolutely must in the exterior, but interior construction is the last thing you want o live with with a baby in the house.
August 8, 2013 5:23 PM - rezmo
ugh - sideways!
August 8, 2013 5:26 PM - rezmo
right side up!
August 8, 2013 5:27 PM - rezmo
We're not investing in the interior in the short term - apartment is in working order, and we won't change the layout until we combine the apartments and put the bedrooms sort of stuck for now. Here are some pictures of the yard, you can sort of see the shitty retaining wall and how my neighbor's yard is elevated - we were told to put the french drain behind the wall under the neighbors lawn (which he is ok with) and return the water to a drywell with tank in the center of our yard. Think something less than this is worth doing?
August 8, 2013 5:29 PM - pepper
Wow. The astroturf is especially charming...
When did you move there?
August 8, 2013 5:32 PM - rezmo
moved in November, havent touched the backyard since - in fact its now wildly overgrown to add to the mess. The astroturf's charm is only amplified by the fact that the dirt pile is a good foot plus high and pitched towards the back of the house - we have a concrete bed at the last few feet before the house. It's honestly a miracle that we dont get standing water - the soil must be helping out.
August 8, 2013 5:33 PM - petebklyn
just line it and make a big swimming pool
August 8, 2013 5:35 PM - rezmo
moonface beer is best enjoyed floating in a pool...
August 8, 2013 5:50 PM - BoerumHillScott
Just let the water come into your basement and have an indoor pool.
August 8, 2013 6:22 PM - Deleted
Isn't there turds in parkwanus flood water?
August 8, 2013 7:07 PM - Deleted
No the turds come from red anus.
August 8, 2013 7:27 PM - rf
What the fuck is going on here?

Well, not about rezmo's basement. Rezmo, I am rf and my 17-year-old and I have been on the road for a week visiting colleges. We did manage to see 2 sets of PLUSAs (did Cobble aka Ditmasparker send you the list of acronyms and abbreviations?) along the way.

My kid liked several schools, including one she will surely get into. Yay!

More when the baby is closer. I am so excited for you! I adopted my kid from China so missed out on the newborn stuff (actually the first 23 months) but I can tell you from experience that it's really, really amazing to be a parent. Even the parent of a teen (although sometimes the word "amazing" doesn't always cover that time period!).
August 8, 2013 7:38 PM - etson
"My kid liked several schools, including one she will surely get into. Yay!"

Congrats on the successful trip. What were her favs and what is the one she will def get into?
August 8, 2013 7:42 PM - Deleted
"including one she will surely get into."

August 8, 2013 7:47 PM - rezmo
hey rf, nice to meet you. I was reading about your college visits - I'm actually a binghamton alum. It's a good school and I think they've finished up with the construction that sprawled the campus while I was there. I have a cousin there now studying biology with hopes to do research work and she is having a blast. If your daughter ends up there just make sure she stays away from all the punk rock townie kids....they are a good time, but probably not the best of influences (I think I was the only SUNY kid that hung with them).
August 8, 2013 7:48 PM - Deleted
August 8, 2013 7:50 PM - Deleted
August 8, 2013 7:51 PM - pepper
lol, dh
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August 8, 2013 7:54 PM - Deleted
Caption to the photo:

This is almost as much fun as PWNing Obama!
August 8, 2013 8:05 PM - Deleted
How did I forget that Putin is like the baddest ass mofo on earth?
August 8, 2013 8:09 PM - Legion
haha dh.
nice photo.

...when Putin does push-ups he's not pushing away from the surface of the Earth,
the Earth is being pushed away by his biceps!
August 8, 2013 8:10 PM - Deleted
Can't open link. Supposedly a lot of the photos are staged or photoshopped. I like the way he thinks though. No namby-pamby stuff for him!
August 8, 2013 8:11 PM - Legion
what age group are you in?
I'm picturing 34 for some reason.
August 8, 2013 8:13 PM - rezmo
Very close, 32.
August 8, 2013 8:16 PM - pepper
right in between dh and randi, the young bucks of the OT...
August 8, 2013 8:16 PM - Legion
dh, rob, randolph and etson are in your age group.
August 8, 2013 8:19 PM - etson
You're doing well to buy a big multi-unit building at 32. Well done.
August 8, 2013 8:19 PM - pepper
right, etson and rob. and six too...
August 8, 2013 8:20 PM - etson
I am 10 years older than dh, exactly 3 years older than randi and about 2.5 older than rob.

Snappy and lech are closest PLUSA's in age to me.
August 8, 2013 8:24 PM - Deleted
DIBS and I are the wise old men of the OT.
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August 8, 2013 8:25 PM - rf
Rezmo, back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, I graduated from Bing. Another PLUSA Bing. grad but I will let her out herself. Also I think I may have heard that there's another Bing grad here. Of course all the losers from out of state never heard of it.

We went to Bing and Cornell in February. We filled up the car--traveled with a boy and 2 other girls. The trip was a lot of fun for all but it was painfully cold outside. Cornell definitely had the best tour guide we've seen.

I would say that Bing. is still her first choice (she did a summer program at the Kopernik Observatory in Vestal and stayed in the newest dorm--suites, air conditioned!) and was hooked.

So I would say that this is her list:
1. Bing
2. U of Rochester
maybe .5 or maybe 1.5 or maybe 2.5, Cornell--she doesn't think she has a chance to get in but who knows, and I heard about another China adoptee with similar h.s., grades, and scores who got in.
3. Rochester Institute of Technology
4. (or maybe 3) RPI
5. Syracuse but we couldn't stay for the tour and I think she may not like it so much if she goes back.
5. State U. of NY College at Oneonta, her safety. She can see herself there and her numbers are far above the middle 50 percent standardized tests.

Tomorrow we go to Worcester Institute of Technology which I heard is very different from the other Poly/Tech schools but I forget how/why.

For what it's worth, she will be a senior at Brooklyn Tech. Until about a year ago she thought she wanted to go to medical school and then she flirted with the idea of engineering school, which is when I made our first list. She wants to do bio research but just started talking about minoring in business.
August 8, 2013 8:26 PM - rezmo
I need a freaking spreadsheet to keep track of everyone.
August 8, 2013 8:28 PM - etson
Sounds like a great trip. Good to have options knowing she would be happy at any of them.

Surprised you mentioned it was cold. It has been below seasonal but very comfortable up here.
August 8, 2013 8:33 PM - Deleted
Brooklyn men in their 30's are _THE_ corniest age group in NYC, hands down. Talking about straight men mostly. I turn 36.5 tomorrow, but my emotional/psychospiritual age unfortunately was halted at age 22 so I am starting over at 22 as of 2 months ago. I am going to skip 23-25 in February, breeze through 26-30 by Christmas and hope to be caught up to 38 when I turn 38 in 2015.
August 8, 2013 8:35 PM - Deleted
REZNO, you still haven't answered the question and I asked you three times now. How did you stumble upon this place? RF is the local idiot savant (don't get mad at me saying that, it's a nice thing I think) when it comes to random shit no one gives a crap about, like her daughter's college selection. How many times are we going to read that!? Hey look, I can be bitchy just as much as much as the warsh women!

August 8, 2013 8:36 PM - etson
Rf, If she is ever interested I can arrange for her talk with our healthcare guys.
They analyze the industry from a financial perspective these days but all three of them have worked in the industry itself before (one an MD, one in pharma sales analysis, one in funding small biotech start-ups).
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August 8, 2013 8:37 PM - etson
No such word as warsh
August 8, 2013 8:37 PM - rezmo
I answered, via brownstoner and Internet meandering.
Edited at August 8, 2013 8:37 PM
August 8, 2013 8:41 PM - pepper
wtf does "warsh women" mean, anyway? or will we have to learn from context, like with moonface?
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August 8, 2013 8:44 PM - rf
No Etson, it was cold at Binghamton and Cornell when we visited in February. Actually we had really good weather--even though it rained here and there, never when we were walking through a campus. And it wasn't hotter than 80 except a little above this afternoon.
August 8, 2013 8:45 PM - rf
Yeah, like we all really love reading about your fishes and their tanks, complete with photos.
August 8, 2013 8:46 PM - Deleted
I gotta give that one to Rf. Touche'!
August 8, 2013 8:46 PM - rf
Thanks, Etson, will talk to her about that possibility. I think she'll say not right now but maybe later when she has some college under her belt (nh).
August 8, 2013 8:48 PM - etson
I enjoy reading about your daughter's college process rf, even though I have never met her & am not even a parent. Sure most others agree.
It's fun to (virtually) see people developing, defining their lives etc.
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August 8, 2013 8:50 PM - DeLepp
I think that warsh women is an old term from the days of washing clothing on washboards next to river as it was implied the women were also gossiping.
August 8, 2013 8:50 PM - Legion
Speaking of advice for college,
most doctors wouldn't recommend medicine for their children.
I agree.
August 8, 2013 8:58 PM - Deleted
Legion, my doctor prescribed me a new medication that is 800 dollars for ONE MONTH SUPPLY and I need to take it for FOUR months btw. My insurance company will only pay for the older version or class of the drug. The doctor's office then sent a coupon to Duane Reade and it will only cost me 30 bux. The doctors office told me I can get more coupons later to continue the treatment. and only pay 30 bux. Is this a normal practice?
August 8, 2013 9:03 PM - Legion
with new pharmaceuticals the monthly prescription price is huge.
When the drug reps come to the office to detail these new meds they usually provide the doctor with some sort of coupon or program for patients who might have to pay too much out of pocket for the medication.
From the pharmaceutical company's perspective, it's worth it to get the doctor to start prescribing the medication to as many individuals as possible,
they obviously believe in the drug but it's totally their business model to grab market share as quickly and aggressively as possible.

August 8, 2013 9:11 PM - Arkady
Residents of DC pronounce the name of their city Warshington.
My brother was a philosophy prof. at SUNY Bing.
August 8, 2013 9:21 PM - pepper
Thanks for translating, DeLepp...
August 8, 2013 9:23 PM - Partridge
Wow! On fire. Nose running, eyes watering goodness. Thai red curry is a gift from the heavens.
August 8, 2013 9:37 PM - etson
red anus
August 8, 2013 9:39 PM - Partridge
Sorry, to hear.
August 8, 2013 9:44 PM - pepper
haha -not until tomorrow...
August 8, 2013 9:50 PM - Deleted
Texas continues on its steamroll...

From Forbes:

The growing scale of the oil and natural gas boom in Texas continues to stun most observers. We have discussed this phenomenon periodically (see prior pieces here and here) , but the newest developments are so off the charts that an update is warranted.

We’ve pointed out a couple of times that Texas’s oil production represents roughly 30% of the total US output, an amazing statistic, especially considering that the percentage was below 15% just a few years ago. In May, that statistic became even more amazing, as Texas accounted for 34.5% of total US oil production, thanks to continued production growth in the Eagle Ford Shale and in several shale plays in the Permian Basin region of West Texas.

As Dr. Mark J. Perry points out in his Carpe Diem blog, Texas’ daily oil output has doubled in just a little more than two years, averaging 2.525 million barrels per day in May, the highest daily output the state has experienced since April 1982. In February of this year, Texas – were it a nation in and of itself – would have ranked as the 14th largest oil producing nation on earth. In April – the most recent month global data is available – Texas would have ranked 12th among all nations, in this category, just ahead of Venezuela, and slightly behind Kuwait and Mexico.

By the end of the year, when Texas’s daily production is likely to exceed 3 million barrels per day, Texas would likely rank 9th on this list...

Where natural gas is concerned, Texas accounted for just over 27% of all US production in May, and would still rank 3rd among all nations...

August 8, 2013 9:51 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
ladies, since uncle pete is being nice enough to take us on vacation, i figured we should do something nice for him in return. let's allow him and lesbi to go to bermuda alone. but, since he insists that he pick up the tab on a vacay for us, too, we can just go to this cute little place in the southern maldives. not too fancy, but i think we'll manage to cope...
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August 8, 2013 9:51 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
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August 8, 2013 9:56 PM - etson

Fun old school NYC music video (and one of those random old tunes I really like for some reason).
CPW / Columbus in 1982. Sidewalk bar is now a Duane Reade :-(
Greenhouse type building opposite has been an Indian restaurant for as long as I can remember but no idea what it was then.
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August 8, 2013 9:57 PM - pepper
OOh, thanks Uncle Pete! That place looks perfect for a little R&R!. You are the best! **smooch**
August 8, 2013 9:58 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
isn't he, p-nut? gotta love uncle pete :-)
August 8, 2013 10:00 PM - etson
Yep, benson. Permian and Eagle Ford are going to keep on growing.
Pennsylvania nat gas has grown faster than either, although gas is much lower value than oil. NY State could have benefited a lot from the same trend but won't allow fracking. Strangely enough given previous discussion the best part of NYS for nat gas drilling if it were allowed would be around Binghamton.
August 8, 2013 10:00 PM - pepper
Yup. And I think it's really nice of us to let him and Lesbiman have a little alone time...
August 8, 2013 10:02 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
yeah, we gotta let them have some quiet moments. we are nice girls after all.
August 8, 2013 10:02 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
and i won't even demand my own private villa so as to save him some money.
August 8, 2013 10:02 PM - BoerumHillScott
It is fucking muggy and them some out there.
Went with a run with my son tonight, and it felt like I was swimming.

I sent an e-mail to my property management agent in LA outlying my my position and giving a firm price around 40K (8%) than what I think the true fair market value is.
My gut feeling is that the tenants are looking for a cheap buy, and will respond with a number 100K less, and I will move on with my original plan to put the place on the market next summer.

I wish I could explain why I am so nervous, when the worst case scenario is I will be exactly where I was before.
August 8, 2013 10:03 PM - pepper
I have heard of people that I once knew upstate dedicating their lives to the anti-fracking cause. I don't know all that much about fracking. Guess I should read up...
August 8, 2013 10:05 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
muggy indeed. been struggling all day with air quality.
August 8, 2013 10:06 PM - pepper
Negotiating requires nerves of steel, Scott... it aint easy. But, it seems like you hold most of the cards, so, deep breath....
August 8, 2013 10:11 PM - etson
Fracing (technically correct spelling, I slipped up above) is fine the vast majority of the time.
If they frac too close to the water table in an area where people use well water it can be a big problem, so there are some horror stories out there but they represent a pretty small sample of the total.

Also drilling operations are noisy and disruptive for a month or two while the well itself is being drilled but once it's completed and on production the well is barely noticeable.
August 8, 2013 10:13 PM - rf
Any fracking in Canada?
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August 8, 2013 10:16 PM - Deleted

In my mind, the anti-fracking movement demonstrates all that is wrong with the modern environmental movement.

As all adults know, there is a price to paid for all progress, and a wise person tries to optimize the choice.

With shale gas derived from fracking, you have:

-a domestic reserve that could fulfill the US energy needs for decades;

-the cleanest-burning of all fossil fuels;

-a domestic source of energy, improving our security;

-relatively low extraction impact, despite what the fear-mongers say.

Seems like almost a no-brainer to me.
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August 8, 2013 10:16 PM - etson
Being at a distance is more stressful as well. Sounds like you are doing the right thing.

I would be more stressed about what the BK market looks like in a couple of years. I am allegedly moving back at end year and have been monitoring apartments to buy. I have literally zero on my list in BK, vs about 15 in Manhattan. Just nothing on the market. My (BH based) broker was telling me today that things are quiet for her. Prices are great but there's just no inventory, hence an unbalanced and slow market.
August 8, 2013 10:17 PM - pepper
But can they really know how near to the water table they are? Based on some stories I've heard about drilling water wells, no one really knows...
August 8, 2013 10:19 PM - etson
*Tons* of fracing in western Canada - Alberta and BC. Some in SK and Manitoba but not as much needed there (production there tends to be shallower oil production where wells do not need to be fraced)

Quebec banned it, similar to NYS, but is very prospective for nat gas. Ontario is not that prospective for oil and gas. Some potential in New Brunswick but it's fairly low down most companies' priority list.
August 8, 2013 10:19 PM - Deleted

There is a lot of fracking going on in Canada. The whole point of the Keystone pipeline is to transport oil derived from Canadian shale down to our refineries.
August 8, 2013 10:20 PM - pepper
I just don't know enough about it benson, to know if I agree, or disagree with you. Like I said, I need to read up on it. But it's not going to be tonight...
August 8, 2013 10:21 PM - etson
Before they drill the first well in an area they would not have a very clear idea. Once they drill the first couple they would know.
August 8, 2013 10:22 PM - BoerumHillScott
I'll repeat my views on oil production, which do not match the left or the right:

The smartest position at the national level is to continue to invest in drilling technology, but use most of that technology overseas while slightly increasing current levels of producing infrastructure domestically. It means continuing to import lots of oil, but once the easy to develop fields overseas start really running dry, we will have the technology and the means to make use of our oil when global prices are 2 or 3 times higher than they are now.

My views on natural gas are somewhat similar, but gas tends to be a more continental commodity instead of global due to the high costs of liquification and shipping. The smart regions will support drilling with conventional methods (including some small scale fracking), while the longer term consequences of aggressive fracking are being studied and better techniques are being discovered. Then, when fields in other regions are becoming more and more difficult to produce, start ramping up production with less environmental risk.

Over time, the cost of fossil fuels will only increase. Fields not being developed now are not lost, they are just deferred to a point when the reward/cost ration will be higher.

I do think that groups that are against pipelines are close to 100% stupid/short sighted, and a number of people I like very much are included in that group.

August 8, 2013 10:25 PM - etson
Hate to correct my friend benson, but Keystone is mostly to ship production from the oil sands where fracing is not used.

Oil sands production is either surface mined or produced via a dual well process called SAGD where one well is drilled to inject steam into the reservoir to 'loosen' the bitumen and another is drilled to produce it.

Fracing is for oil & gas that is trapped in very low permeability rock that needs to be fractured in order to produce in commercial quanitities.
August 8, 2013 10:25 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
lots to digest
August 8, 2013 10:26 PM - BoerumHillScott
One more comment on fossil fuel production: countries/states that rely heavily on drilling/production had better be taking a good chunk of the revenue and investing it in one way or another.
Texas has done a great job of this, using oil and gas revenue to build infrastructure and help subsidize a very business friendly tax code that has led to great dividends.

Louisiana, on the other hand, has been close a complete failure in this regard. I grew in Baton Rouge during the oil bust of the 1980s, and I don't think the state has recovered yet from that era.
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August 8, 2013 10:27 PM - Deleted
Thanks Etson. I had thought that the injected steam process was also classified as fracking.
August 8, 2013 10:27 PM - etson
So fracing in western Canada is for tight / shale oil or natural gas production.
August 8, 2013 10:32 PM - BoerumHillScott
One more comment about Texas that many people do not know: Texas is unique in that it came into the US with vast amounts of land owned by the state government. For the early states, almost all land was private at time of statehood, and for the western ones, almost all land was owned by the Federal government.
When combined with the geological resources of the state, it has been a huge boost to Texas.

I am not saying that it was all luck/fortune, Texas has been overall very wise in how they have managed things, but they did start off with huge advantages that not other state had.
August 8, 2013 10:36 PM - etson
No, it's different. In oil sand the issue is that the product, bitumen, is very viscous. Hence it needs to either be physically mined or loosened via steam injection.

The proper name for fracing is pressure pumping. In reserviors that need fracing the oil and gas is trapped in tiny pores. Just drilling a conventional well would not allow enough oil / gas to flow into the wellbore. Pressure pumpers pump stuff (most common are water with a bit of chemical in solution, nitrogen, foam, or acid) down the well to increase the pressure and make cracks in the rock. This opens up a much greater surface area through which the oil or gas can flow and the well can be much more productive.

Once the oil / gas is exposed to the fracture and then the wellbore it will flow because of the pressure gradient. Fracing just massively increases the surface area of rock that is exposed to the wellbore (via the fractures) and so increases productivity.
August 8, 2013 10:40 PM - BoerumHillScott
The Houston Museum of Natural History had (has I assume) a good sized oil protection area, including an exhibit where you can (virtually) go down into a well being drilled. Even in 2002, fracking was common enough where it was part of the ride.

My understanding is that since that time the scale of fracking, especially when combined with horizontal drilling, has grown by an order of magnitude.
August 8, 2013 10:41 PM - etson
And it follows from the above, given that gas is under higher pressure to begin with (that's how it became gas) and gas molecules are smaller, fracing technology has made a proportionally much bigger difference for gas production than for oil.
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August 8, 2013 10:43 PM - Deleted

That is also the reason the offshore wind farm industry has only matured in Texas. In Texas, the wind farms are not that far out, in state territorial water. Makes the permitting process and engineering easy. By contrast, not a single wind farm has been built off the east coast. No one wants to look at them, so they are proposed out further in federal waters. Permitting and engineering go up an order of magnitude.
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August 8, 2013 10:45 PM - etson
There wasn't much of an economic incentive for it until oil and gas prices spiked in the 2003-05 period.
The pioneer of the technique, George Mitchell, died the other week. His company's main assets were in the Barnett Shale near Ft Worth.

He also developed The Woodlands, which you would know well Scott.
August 8, 2013 10:48 PM - pepper
Not that I can follow what you guys are talking about, exactly, but I'm loving the OT geek-out nonetheless...
August 8, 2013 10:51 PM - etson
This is my job! Kinda
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August 8, 2013 10:56 PM - BoerumHillScott
The first 10 years of my career were spent at natural gas pipeline/drilling/field services companies that also did oil and other energy stuff on the side. I was in IT, but loved talking to the engineers.

Interestingly enough, my current company is trying to make a name for itself in financing "Green Energy" including the proposed Nantucket offshore wind farm.