Friday OT
June 15, 2012 6:57 AM - dibs
Continuing on our Verizon discussion, this building is such an eyesore!!!!!!

300 comments
June 15, 2012 7:15 AM - dibs
Dinner last night at Jack The Horse was very good.... charcuterie platter for $10....Xing had anexcellent skate and I had probably the best piece of pork loin ever with a nice sized piece of pork belly with it. Very good value and nice space. Not noisy despite being full.
#1
June 15, 2012 7:34 AM - dibs
The Socialist Party in Greece,which wants to redistribute all the wealth and get rid of capitalism, is referred to as "Center Left" in Europe!!!!!!!!!!
#2
June 15, 2012 7:47 AM - DeLepp
greeks dont pay taxes so how can they redistribute?
#3
June 15, 2012 8:00 AM - dibs
How was the gin dinner?????
Edited at June 15, 2012 8:00 AM
#4
June 15, 2012 8:19 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Mornin'.

Always wondered why Vz was allowed to mar the skyline by putting the name so large on the bldg. Hideous, imo. But, Vz is a hideous company. I suppose it fits them.
#5
June 15, 2012 8:22 AM - dibs
Feeling any better, Snappy????
#6
June 15, 2012 8:26 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Breathing is ok - think it should be back to good levels in a few more days. A bit tired from lack of good sleep, but still hanging in there. Thanks for asking.
#7
June 15, 2012 8:29 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I'm doing some digging to see if I can find any regs about lettering on buildings in the so called iconic nyc skyline and if anyone ever tried to stop Vz from putting up those huge ugly letters - to no avail. Anyone know off hand?
Edited at June 15, 2012 8:29 AM
#8
June 15, 2012 8:32 AM - dibs
Pan Am building was the precedent I suspect
Edited at June 15, 2012 8:32 AM
#9
June 15, 2012 8:32 AM - Arkady
There was a huge brouhaha about it a few years ago - when people were bitching about the Traveller's Insurance umbrella logo on another bldg downtown. I don't remember how it was resolved but I believe the logo had to be modified.
Edited at June 15, 2012 8:32 AM
#10
June 15, 2012 8:32 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
This is pretty neat....shows the NYC skyline changes from 1876 to now:

http://tinyurl.com/86do6e5
Edited at June 15, 2012 8:32 AM
#11
June 15, 2012 8:33 AM - dibs
Yes, I remember the Travellers issue. Somewhere along the West Side Hwy?????
#12
June 15, 2012 8:36 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I'm seeing where there was a lawsuit over the size of the Vz bldg (allegedly it was illegally built 30% too large for the air rights they had or something) but still no info on signage. Maybe they didn't care because it faces Brooklyn?
Edited at June 15, 2012 8:36 AM
#13
June 15, 2012 8:40 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Ahhh...so the charge is being led in Brooklyn, of course, but still no progress.

http://gothamist.com/2008/09/18/verizon.php
#14
June 15, 2012 8:44 AM - dibs
While millions of subway riders were socked with a fare increase last year, a cadre of MTA workers raked in more than $100,000 in overtime, thanks to costly union work rules, The Post has learned.

In all, 20 employees took home six-figure overtime payouts in 2011 on top of their regular salaries, according to payroll information that The Post obtained under the Freedom of Information Act.

The biggest hog was LIRR train-car repairman Vincent Blackburn, who earned a staggering $135,684.53 in overtime last year — more than doubling his base salary of $66,539.12.

Blackburn — along with seven of the top 10 highest overtime earners — is employed at the Long Island Rail Road’s Richmond Hill, Queens, repair facility, an OT gold mine affectionately known by staffers as “Rich Man’s Hill.”

Workers there benefit from an old labor agreement known as “Rule 24,” which requires the railroad to fill all vacant slots on certain work shifts — even if the manpower isn’t needed.
Thanks to that, workers at the facility — the only one governed by the arcane rule — can earn an obscene amount of overtime that is doled out based on seniority.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/mta_ot_express_GeCH5dswsBidXPO1ipovzK
#15
June 15, 2012 8:50 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I was waiting for you to post that article. I knew it was coming!
Edited at June 15, 2012 8:50 AM
#16
June 15, 2012 8:58 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I think the problem lies (lays? Arkady?) with the politicians/government who gives in to keeping such union rules. You can't really fault a person for getting all they can in their favor. Yes, it's insane the way money gets spent in some arenas when we are facing service cuts and fare increases that the average person can't afford. But whose fault is that? The union for asking for it? Or those that give in to it? I submit that it's the latter.
#17
June 15, 2012 9:06 AM - DeLepp
Gin dinner became a cask of cava. Difficult to fault workers when it's the POLs who enable the lifting of taxpayer wallets.
#18
June 15, 2012 9:19 AM - CGar
I drank with jessi and Biff at Jack the Horse after walking the Bridge one night.

That was before jessi abandoned us to become a hipster. Unless she left the nabe in anticipation of dave's arrival . . .
#19
June 15, 2012 9:20 AM - DeLepp
The travelers umbrella was on the greenwich street building facing north. They had to dim at night and then travelers/citigroup broke apart and umbrella came down.
#20
June 15, 2012 9:22 AM - CGar
"I don't remember how it was resolved but I believe the logo had to be modified."

It was the Citi building at 388 Greenwich. Citi sold Traveller's. And everything with the Traveller's logo had to go. That's when they had to take it off the building.

Eva, remember that???
Edited at June 15, 2012 9:22 AM
#21
June 15, 2012 9:23 AM - Arkady
"Lies", Snaps.
#22
June 15, 2012 9:23 AM - CGar
Jinx, DeLepp!
Edited at June 15, 2012 9:23 AM
#23
June 15, 2012 9:27 AM - CGar
"an old labor agreement known as “Rule 24,” which requires the railroad to fill all vacant slots on certain work shifts — even if the manpower isn’t needed."

I'm not anti-union per se. I think unions have done a lot of good over the years. But, rules like this are what give them black eyes and there's no excuse for such rules to exist. It's like a mobster getting a no show job.
Edited at June 15, 2012 9:29 AM
#24
June 15, 2012 9:37 AM - CGar
"Bxgrl- have you, MM and CGar worked out a gathering date yet?"
"we're working on it. Or rather, Mr. CGar is working on it :)"

Partridge, do try and keep up. It's a complicated process with a lot of moving parts. I'm working on it. It isn't easy nailing down Thelma & Louise (nh).
#25
June 15, 2012 9:43 AM - CGar
bxgrl is becoming as difficult as Arkady in terms of the foods she "hates":

- Coconut
- Beets
- Borscht
- Herring

Not very JEWish of her. And some people call ME high maintenance. Bxgrl, dear, you really need to excise the word "hate" from your vocabulary.
#26
June 15, 2012 9:44 AM - MontroseMorris
I think I heard CGar cursing at me. Morning, all.
Edited at June 15, 2012 9:44 AM
#27
June 15, 2012 9:45 AM - Partridge
I AM keeping up, CGar. It is just that the window of opportunity is getting smaller and smaller and some of us (not me, I'm speaking about others )actually have lives and other responsibilities to consider.
#28
June 15, 2012 9:46 AM - CGar
You heard wrong, MM. I was talking about nailing you.
#29
June 15, 2012 9:46 AM - Slope4Eva
Good Morning, on just my first cup of coffee, ugh, tired. Yes, CGar, I remember it well. I worked there at the time. I worked in all three buildings at one time or another (388, 390, 250 West).
#30
June 15, 2012 9:46 AM - Arkady
Hey, MM! You have to post your mac & cheese recipe on our food forum. (And don't pooh-pooh it - it is wonderful!)
#31
June 15, 2012 9:47 AM - bxgrl
"Bxgrl, dear, you really need to excise the word "hate" from your vocabulary."

Gosh- I HATE when people tell me that.
#32
June 15, 2012 9:47 AM - dibs
"some of us (not me, I'm speaking about others )actually have lives and other responsibilities to consider."

I have an 11:35 train to catch
#33
June 15, 2012 9:47 AM - MontroseMorris
I don't like raw onions (they don't like me, either), okra, beets, or watermelon. The latter, I'll eat at a social gathering to be polite, but I've never liked it all that much. I much prefer cantaloupe. I live to defy stereotypes.
#34
June 15, 2012 9:49 AM - dibs
US Gov't about to announce plan to stop deporting illegals who came here under 16 or are still under 30. Supposedly going to issue work permits. The details sound very complicated which, of course, will cause most of them not to apply.
Edited at June 15, 2012 9:50 AM
#35
June 15, 2012 9:49 AM - CGar
Partridge, I've been planning OT gatherings since you were in short pants. My eWife has assured me that if we have the party after she moves, she'll be back for it. I'm aiming for July - subject to the PTown vacation schedule of His Very High Maintenance.

Have you ever TRIED to get all the PLUSAs in one place at the same time? No? Then STFU. It's no no easy feat on a good day, particularly gathering those who no longer post but who I'm still able to get to gatherings. And don't even get me started on trying to gather those who no longer speak to me.
Edited at June 15, 2012 9:50 AM
#36
June 15, 2012 9:51 AM - bxgrl
Hey- what's this about nailing MM? Listen to me mister- if you're going to be nailing anything, it's going to be sheetrock in our new house! Here's you little hard hat, your safety goggles, your work boots. We'll discuss your hours and coffee breaks later.
#37
June 15, 2012 9:51 AM - MontroseMorris
"I was talking about nailing you."

Raunch hour already? My soon-to-be evil landlord will not be happy to hear such talk. You know how jealous she is.

I'm going to buy a compressor and nail gun. I don't know how people did without one all these years, those things are great. We are going to have so much DIY stuff to do. Should be fun.
#38
June 15, 2012 9:52 AM - dibs
MM...there's a sale on this weekend at Lowe's with a nice small Campbell Hausfield compressor...$57
#39
June 15, 2012 9:52 AM - Slope4Eva
I know you've all had the okra debate before, but, as a kid I used to love the okra in Cambell's chicken gumbo. I assumed there are many gross ways to prepare okra to have caused such hatred, lol. I was in a watermelon eating contest as a kid, had to have the most pits, my brother, cousin, and I cheated and pooled our pits. We won a watermelon! I don't think I've eaten it since.
#40
June 15, 2012 9:53 AM - bxgrl
It's so cute, watching the pecking order at work.
#41
June 15, 2012 9:54 AM - Slopefarm
Here's a good take on the Sandusky trial. Now I understand why this didn't plead. No way prosecutor could agree to a short enough jail sentence to keep him from dying in jail given his age and given both the number and awfulness of the crimes. But there's really been no effective defense. The article says just pleading guilty now would be better for victims and for than letting this thing go on with more testimony and go to verdict. I can't think of a worse thing than for Sandusky to take the stand. is he going to say none of it happened? Or is he going to try to squirm out of the details of each incident. There are so many and it will be a withering cross.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/06/jerry_sandusky_trial_the_penn_state_coach_needs_to_plead_guilty_right_now_.html

#42
June 15, 2012 9:55 AM - CGar
"if you're going to be nailing anything, it's going to be sheetrock in our new house!"

A. You're the one who's leaving MM in Brooklyn alone with me for the summer.

2. I'm JEWish. DIY is NOT in my vocabulary. I'll gladly bring my contractor and supervise though.
#43
June 15, 2012 9:55 AM - MontroseMorris
I saw the commercial for that, Dave. Is that a decent size? I want to get something that is durable and cost effective, and would be willing to pay more for something that's worth it. I need a nail gun that can handle more than brads or trim nails. Not heavy duty framing, but something in between, for building shelves, etc.
Edited at June 15, 2012 9:55 AM
#44
June 15, 2012 9:55 AM - CGar
Bxgrl, pray tell what pecking order you're plathering on about???
#45
June 15, 2012 9:57 AM - bxgrl
In the summer, when I was a kid, my mother used to put out fresh fruit every night. The big ritual was who got to take it out of the fridge and put it in the big fruit bowl. (What do you want- when you have a twin, these things matter!). So I used to make these elaborate constructions out of grapes, cherries, cantaloupe, etc. that to my childish they looked like elaborate turreted castles with moats and gates and even people. Of course, I realize now my family simply did not recognize my work for what it was and simple decimated my creations. :(
#46
June 15, 2012 9:58 AM - CGar
"Is that a decent size? I want to get something that is durable and cost effective, and would be willing to pay more for something that's worth it."

1. I guess we know MM is a size queen.

B. I know she's talking about getting nailed, but is she looking for a tool or the whole Rentboy??
#47
June 15, 2012 9:58 AM - Slopefarm
"I have an 11:35 train to catch"

I suppose you'll be wanting us all to help with that.

"Listen to me mister- if you're going to be nailing anything, it's going to be sheetrock in our new house! Here's you little hard hat, your safety goggles, your work boots. "

Pssst, bx. Have you forgotten?? He's Jewish.

"I'm going to buy a compressor and nail gun. I don't know how people did without one all these years, those things are great."

How about a sawzall? Great riff on the sawzall in "All the Way Home" by David Giffels, which you need to read if you haven't.



#48
June 15, 2012 10:00 AM - CGar
I LOVE Watermelon. All fruit but Peaches - I eat them because they're great, but I don't like the fuzzy skin.
#49
June 15, 2012 10:00 AM - bxgrl
Penguin pecks partridge. :)
#50
June 15, 2012 10:00 AM - Slopefarm
Jinx on Jewish DIY, Cgar.
Edited at June 15, 2012 10:00 AM
#51
June 15, 2012 10:01 AM - Arkady
MM - Ex-bf is a tool dude - I've asked him for recommendations.
#52
June 15, 2012 10:01 AM - bxgrl
""I'm going to buy a compressor and nail gun. I don't know how people did without one all these years, those things are great.""

Some people took advantage of their sainted tenant all these years, that's how! And don't anyoen ask about the dishwasher.
Edited at June 15, 2012 10:01 AM
#53
June 15, 2012 10:02 AM - dibs
I haven't looked at the max PSI rating but it should be fine for the trim size guns, not the framing guns though. Check what pressure the gun requires against the max of the compressor. There are also package deals that include trim guns which may be cheaper
#54
June 15, 2012 10:03 AM - bxgrl
Ooof- I had forgotten, slopey. You guys are just supposed to be eye candy.
Edited at June 15, 2012 10:03 AM
#55
June 15, 2012 10:03 AM - CGar
[Must resist urge to comment on Puma's 10:01 post.]
#56
June 15, 2012 10:03 AM - Arkady
CG - Brush the peaches under running water - gets rid of the fuzz.
#57
June 15, 2012 10:05 AM - bxgrl
We redid MM's dining room. Came out beautifully- but a nail gun would have made it so much easier! Especially when she sheetrocked part of the ceiling.
Edited at June 15, 2012 10:05 AM
#58
June 15, 2012 10:05 AM - dibs
But to operate any nail gun, you need a compressor with a tank, not one of those small tankless ones which are only good enough for inflating tires.
#59
June 15, 2012 10:07 AM - dibs
No professional sheetrockers use nail guns. What you could use is an electric screw driver made specifically for doing sheetrock. it has a collar that sets the depth of the screw just below the surface in a dimple so that you can cover it with compound.
Edited at June 15, 2012 10:07 AM
#60
June 15, 2012 10:07 AM - Slopefarm
nailing, tool guys, pecking, peaches, guns, package deals . . . what is this, set-up line only day on the OT raunch hour?
#61
June 15, 2012 10:08 AM - bxgrl
A tank? A propane tank?

Anyone know where I can get a fire extinguisher recharged? I have a really good one but after all this time it needs to be recharged. Or do I just chuck it and get a new one?
#62
June 15, 2012 10:08 AM - Slopefarm
Oh, I see screws were just added.
Edited at June 15, 2012 10:08 AM
#63
June 15, 2012 10:09 AM - bxgrl
Will have to get one of those, dibs. We'll be doing a lot of sheetrocking.
#64
June 15, 2012 10:09 AM - Partridge
"Penguin pecks partridge. :)"

Yes, BX. I'm feeling the pinch of his angry little beak. If I weren't such a lady bird, I'd shove that ice cream cone up his nose!
#65
June 15, 2012 10:10 AM - Slope4Eva
....sets the depth of the screw just below the surface in a dimple. I find this quite intriguing.
#66
June 15, 2012 10:11 AM - dibs
No, not a propane tank, MORON. An air tank as part of the compressor.
Edited at June 15, 2012 10:11 AM
#67
June 15, 2012 10:13 AM - bxgrl
Well, blame MM- she keeps saying tank for everything and it confuses me. I need a tank for this! I need a tank for that!!

And where is the big "M"? You have used that in days. I'm hurt. Like what? I don't rate a big, bold Moron?
#68
June 15, 2012 10:14 AM - MontroseMorris
We didn't nail up the sheet rock, we screwed it up there. (don't even go there)

No wonder construction is such a testosterone fueled occupation. The double entendre festival can go on all day.
Edited at June 15, 2012 10:14 AM
#69
June 15, 2012 10:15 AM - bxgrl
What can we say, partridge- although he can be quite gentlemanly at times. Especially when he pays on the platinum card.
#70
June 15, 2012 10:17 AM - dibs
I think this weekend everyone should be focused on the outcome of the Greek erections.
Edited at June 15, 2012 10:17 AM
#71
June 15, 2012 10:18 AM - bxgrl
Sheetrock is heavy- we were balancing it on our heads to hold it up while we secured it. It was like Circus of Construction. We didn't have a clown car but we did have clown contractor bags :)
#72
June 15, 2012 10:19 AM - Slopefarm
yes, MM, we haven't even mentioned flashing, stripping, nuts or cocklofts, for example. (extra points for good innuendo involving lag bolts.)
#73
June 15, 2012 10:19 AM - MontroseMorris
BXgrl, stop giving away our unique construction methods. No one will want to see "Trojan Warrior Women" if they know the plot already.
Edited at June 15, 2012 10:19 AM
#74
June 15, 2012 10:20 AM - dibs
Yes, sheetrocking a ceiling is difficult work. They make special lifts that you can rent that you place the sheetrock on and it holds it up. Otherwise you hire a crew. It's one of the most specialized areas of construction meaning that it's usually always subcontracted out...usually to a crew of hot latinos
#75
June 15, 2012 10:20 AM - Partridge
Unlimited credit card access could reduce the sting. You are a very lucky e-wife.
#76
June 15, 2012 10:21 AM - MontroseMorris
I know, Slopey. Don't forget stud walls, either.
#77
June 15, 2012 10:21 AM - dibs
And studs.
#78
June 15, 2012 10:21 AM - dibs
Jinx
Edited at June 15, 2012 10:21 AM
#79
June 15, 2012 10:22 AM - Slopefarm
For you, dibs:

Chevy Chase: "Weekend Update" recognizes its responsibility to present responsible opposing viewpoints to our editorials. Here, with an editiorial reply, is Miss Emily Litella.

Emily Litella: What’s all this fuss I’ve been hearing about the 1976 presidential erection? Now, I know they erected a monument for Mr. Lincoln and President Washington, but that’s because they’re DEAD! Hopefully, the 1976 President won’t be DEAD! So he won’t NEED an erection! If Americans are going to spend money to erect anything, why don’t we tear down those nasty slums and erect luxury high rises for poor people and senior citizens! Not for presidents who can afford to pay for their OWN erections!

Chevy Chase: Miss Litella --

Emily Litella: I can’t believe the way things are turning out in this country -- what?

Chevy Chase: I'm sorry. That’s election. The editorial was about the presidential election, not the presidential erection. Election.

Emily Litella: Oh, that’s very different.

Chevy Chase: Yes.

Emily Litella: [ smiling ] Never mind.
#80
June 15, 2012 10:23 AM - MontroseMorris
Trust me, Dave, that was the one and only adventure with ceilings and sheetrock, and it was a soffit, covering where the fireplace is above it. We exposed the beams on the rest of that room, which is very small and on the ground floor, where the ceiling is not that high. Next time, it will def be a crew of handsome burly men.
#81
June 15, 2012 10:25 AM - Slopefarm
I suppose, dibs, that you have your own studfinder.
#82
June 15, 2012 10:26 AM - Arkady
You can use 2x4s to hold the rock against the ceiling - get them slightly too long & wedge rock in place. Not too difficult w/ 2 people.
And dibs is right about the screw gun.
Edited at June 15, 2012 10:26 AM
#83
June 15, 2012 10:28 AM - Slopefarm
Oh, add exposing beams to the list, per MM's post.

We haven't gotten to electical and plumbing yet -- hard wiring, male and female connectors, etc.


Edited at June 15, 2012 10:28 AM
#84
June 15, 2012 10:29 AM - DeadCatBounce
MM - I never knew there was a stereotype about Writers on Architecture and Cantaloupe. Amazing what you can learn here on the OT.

I am in Seattle for niece's wedding. Got held up at Kennedy Airport due to Obama leaving on Air Force 1 from there. WTF! Who does he think he is?
#85
June 15, 2012 10:30 AM - Slopefarm
OK, dcat, I'll grant you one advantage to having a GOP president -- they tend to ignore New York (when they're not actually telling us to drop dead or bemoaning our decadence).
#86
June 15, 2012 10:31 AM - MontroseMorris
I have a drill driver with the attachment with the collar on it. It makes the job much easier, you are right.
#87
June 15, 2012 10:40 AM - bxgrl
What? With the right attachemnt! You could have told me. :(
Edited at June 15, 2012 10:40 AM
#88
June 15, 2012 10:41 AM - bxgrl
LOL, slopey!
#89
June 15, 2012 10:41 AM - CGar
"we screwed it up there"

Too easy in too many ways.
#90
June 15, 2012 10:42 AM - bxgrl
When did we start getting spammers on the OT? I just deleted one now and several last night. I know they're on the forum but haven't seen them posting here before.
#91
June 15, 2012 10:42 AM - CGar
"They make special lifts"

I've thought of getting lifts.
#92
June 15, 2012 10:43 AM - DeadCatBounce
caiyuer:
That is one of the most bizarre copy and paste jobs - with all those ads - in the history of the open thread.

"Financial markets will likelyDr Dre Beats stumble this week after elections in Greece and France cast a pall of uncertainty over Europe’s efforts to solve its debt crisis."

The press has bee writing this same OPINION for days, weeks, months. If it happens, it will be the most anticipated calamity in history.

"On Sunday night, the euro plunged to $1.2988, a nearly five-month low."

Eventually the Euro will be at parity with the dollar. Who cares? Probably an overall positive for the US anyway.
#93
June 15, 2012 10:46 AM - Slopefarm
dcat -- probably spam which is probably why someone took it down, but it read like sort of a What/DH/Nigerian phisher mashup.
Edited at June 15, 2012 10:46 AM
#94
June 15, 2012 10:50 AM - Not_Logged_In
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#95
June 15, 2012 10:51 AM - Deleted
"(when they're not actually telling us to drop dead or bemoaning our decadence)."

lolz
Edited at June 15, 2012 10:51 AM
#96
June 15, 2012 10:51 AM - CGar
^^^I will say that is one beautiful beach picture. What I wouldn't do to be napping in that hammock right now . . . with bxgrl fanning me, feeding me grapes and making me Long Island Iced Teas.
#97
June 15, 2012 10:53 AM - Deleted
long island iced teas? how low rent
#98
June 15, 2012 10:53 AM - Deleted
dibs would prefer to get in a banana hammock
#99
June 15, 2012 10:56 AM - CGar
I know, DH, but it takes me back in time to 1984 at the Boca Raton Resort & Club. You wouldn't understand. You weren't born!!!!!
Edited at June 15, 2012 10:56 AM
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June 15, 2012 10:57 AM - CGar
I bet dave had a banana seat on his bike too.
Edited at June 15, 2012 10:57 AM
June 15, 2012 10:57 AM - Deleted
Rat Mouth Resort and Club? Sounds swanky!!
June 15, 2012 10:58 AM - CGar
^^^I see someone is having a Feisty Friday.
Edited at June 15, 2012 10:58 AM
June 15, 2012 10:58 AM - Deleted
70s Disco Party? How Roberta's of you...
June 15, 2012 11:04 AM - Slopefarm
Love the Obama pic, What.
June 15, 2012 11:12 AM - DeadCatBounce
What - I have a problem with Supreme Dictators For Life, don't take it personally though.
Also, your entertainment choices are way too white bread and mayonnaise for me!
A little Coltrane or Ella would bring a nice touch of ethnic diversity, as well as a badly needed cultural upgrade.
June 15, 2012 11:15 AM - MontroseMorris
Great Obama photo and caption, what. Love it.
Edited at June 15, 2012 11:14 AM
June 15, 2012 11:17 AM - Slopefarm
Hey, dcat, have you heard the 12 Nights in Hollywood CDs of Ella live? Excellent. I knew someone who played trumpet in one of her bands a long time ago; he said she was just great to work for.

Coltrane, what can I say.
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June 15, 2012 11:29 AM - bxgrl
Feeding you grapes? Would you like me to peel them too?
Edited at June 15, 2012 11:29 AM
June 15, 2012 11:31 AM - CGar
No, but you CAN peel my peaches before feeding them to me.
June 15, 2012 11:39 AM - Slopefarm
Do you dare to eat them, though?
June 15, 2012 11:42 AM - CGar
Funny, Slopey, given bxgrl's obvious "tone" in her 11:29 post, I was thinking I should hire a food taster.
June 15, 2012 11:44 AM - bxgrl
I would never do anything to cut off my source of funding ;)
Edited at June 15, 2012 11:44 AM
June 15, 2012 11:46 AM - Slopefarm
Arkady, would you leave the pool (or the "tool guy") alone for a sec and explain the peach reference to my fellow PLUSAs?
June 15, 2012 11:46 AM - dibs
"Got held up at Kennedy Airport due to Obama leaving on Air Force 1 from there. WTF! Who does he think he is?"

Entitled Democrat
Edited at June 15, 2012 11:46 AM
June 15, 2012 11:47 AM - dibs
Where did Snappy go?????
June 15, 2012 11:49 AM - Arkady
Slopey - It's yet more proof (if any were needed) of what rock-heads are on here.
Edited at June 15, 2012 11:49 AM
June 15, 2012 11:52 AM - DeadCatBounce
"What too much for you Dead Man Bounce?"
All Dictators too much for me, White, oops I mean What.
June 15, 2012 11:54 AM - CGar
Slopey at 11:46 and Arkady at 11:49, whatever the hell you two are talking about went right over my head (which isn't a difficult feat).
June 15, 2012 11:55 AM - DeadCatBounce
"It's yet more proof (if any were needed) of what rock-heads are on here."

In Arkady's defense, she was the only one here who knew how to hold up sheet rock on a ceiling.
June 15, 2012 11:55 AM - Partridge
DCB, you think SDFL is a honky?
June 15, 2012 11:58 AM - Arkady
"Do I dare to eat a peach? I shall wear white flannels & walk on the beach." from the Love Song of J.Alfred Prufrock by T.S.Eliot.
June 15, 2012 11:59 AM - DeadCatBounce
Not only do I think SDFL is a honky, but I think he is a little woosy honky who can't jump, dance or make love to a woman.
Edited at June 15, 2012 11:59 AM
June 15, 2012 12:00 PM - DeadCatBounce
However, he can make a web site.
Edited at June 15, 2012 12:00 PM
June 15, 2012 12:01 PM - dibs
Arkady's description of using 2x4s was correct, partially. To the novice, you must include that you need to nail a 2x4 across the top so that the 4" side is up against the sheetrock. Using the end of a 2x4 without that will puncture a hole in the sheetrock.

Like the stripes and patibulum of a "cross" in the shape of a "T"
Edited at June 15, 2012 12:09 PM
June 15, 2012 12:01 PM - Slopefarm
For you, CGar:

I grow old … I grow old …
I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled.

Shall I part my hair behind? Do I dare to eat a peach?
I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.

I do not think that they will sing to me.

-- T.S. Eliot (from the Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock)

June 15, 2012 12:04 PM - petebklyn
Gupta guilty (on 2 counts). Like asking if the pope is catholic.
Edited at June 15, 2012 12:04 PM
June 15, 2012 12:05 PM - Arkady
A further observation in the Love Song is that he measured out his life by teaspoons on a table - another well known metaphor. It's a great poem.
June 15, 2012 12:06 PM - Partridge
Oh, Dead Cat. That could be. He has never been seen, just an urban legend. Web site is impressive you are correct.
Edited at June 15, 2012 12:06 PM
June 15, 2012 12:06 PM - Slopefarm
The other day I walked by the courthouse where the TV crew was waiting for news. One of the cameramen was napping in a folding chair. I said the word "Gupta" to a colleague and the cameraman woke up, startled, afraid he'd missed something.
June 15, 2012 12:08 PM - More4Less
Hope you losers enjoying the nice weather before the damn scatter showers mess up the plans.
June 15, 2012 12:09 PM - Slopefarm
Arkady, I love the couplet:

I should have been a pair of ragged claws
Scuttling across the floors of silent seas.


June 15, 2012 12:09 PM - Arkady
What showers, M4L? I haven't seen any in a forecast.
June 15, 2012 12:10 PM - Arkady
Lots of great stuff in there, Slopey. The mermaids line has been the title of several books I've read.
Edited at June 15, 2012 12:10 PM
June 15, 2012 12:11 PM - Arkady
Maybe someone'll adapt it as a Bway musical similar to Cats!
Edited at June 15, 2012 12:11 PM
June 15, 2012 12:12 PM - dibs
Please, NO MORE BAD ANDREW LLOYD WEBER MUSIC
June 15, 2012 12:12 PM - Not_Logged_In
Return of You Know Who: Hey M4L
The Beach is open---->
frownstoner.com

The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
Edited at June 15, 2012 12:12 PM
June 15, 2012 12:13 PM - More4Less
Arkady, meant enjoy this great weather today as who the F knows when them scatter showers show up again
Edited at June 15, 2012 12:13 PM
June 15, 2012 12:14 PM - dibs
No more showers this week. 90 on Sat or Sunday
Edited at June 15, 2012 12:14 PM
June 15, 2012 12:15 PM - Arkady
Supposed to be nice for days! Just when I'm on a med & can't go out in the sun for 2 weeks. Sigh. Talk about poor timing.
June 15, 2012 12:15 PM - More4Less
WHAT, looks like Westbrook will be on the trading blocks this offseason if the thunder doesn't win trophy. They need his cap space to resign harden
June 15, 2012 12:17 PM - Not_Logged_In
Return of You Know Who: WHAT, looks like Westbrook will be on the trading blocks this offseason if the thunder doesn't win trophy. They need his cap space to resign harden

Tyson Chandler for Serge Ibaka and Westbrook

SDFL
Someday this war is gonna end...
June 15, 2012 12:19 PM - More4Less
Prometheus was decent but was expecting more juicy 3D scenes - ie wasn't worth paying the stiff IMAX price. Spider man looks to have lots of juicy 3D scenes. Batman looks good. Loving the summer time sci fi comic hero action flicks - ie spare me the plots; just give lots of action scenes and brownies
Edited at June 15, 2012 12:19 PM
June 15, 2012 12:19 PM - Slopefarm
"Please, NO MORE BAD ANDREW LLOYD WEBER MUSIC"

Finally, something on which we can agree, dibs!

June 15, 2012 12:21 PM - More4Less
Westbrook is on max contract so he makes more than chandler. Ibaka also free agent so thunder will have trouble resigning both harden and ibaka
June 15, 2012 12:22 PM - dibs
Pete, glad he was convicted and that Raj got 11 years. If the public is ever to come back to the market they need to know that this sort of crap isn't tolerated.
Edited at June 15, 2012 12:22 PM
June 15, 2012 12:23 PM - dibs
The DIllys milkshakes are good.
June 15, 2012 12:24 PM - More4Less
Dave, the public ain't killed that much by these ponzu schemers vs the legal actions of wall st firms and hedge funds. The public is sitting ducks to them fancy traders, trading systems, etc
June 15, 2012 12:26 PM - dibs
Yes, m4l, but insider trading is something they understand. Most people don't understand all of what goes on with program trading system black boxes, myself included.
June 15, 2012 12:26 PM - Slopefarm
OK, dibs, two things. I'll throw in Dilly's onion rings as well.
Edited at June 15, 2012 12:26 PM
June 15, 2012 12:28 PM - Arkady
MM - Response from SC:
what's her budget and the portability issue? Reason I ask; the oil-less compressors (the cheapest) really wear out to soon when using high pressure air tools. The portability issue governs both cost and type of compressor. I've gone through 2 oil-less compressors. So I bought a sears 2 HP upright (150 PSI) on pneumatic tires. It can go all day long quietly and unobtrusively; it satisfies all my high pressure tool requirements and provides about 5 cfm at 50 psi for all my spray finishing needs.
I prefer Senco finish nailers for what she wants to do.

June 15, 2012 12:28 PM - dibs
I've actually never had their onion rings. The onion rings at the Black bass are really good.
June 15, 2012 12:31 PM - dibs
Arkady, I'd be interested in asking my Bucks county contractor and my P-Town neighbor/contractor how long they get out of the slammer oilless compressors. Both of them use them solely.

I've had the one I use in Bucks for 12 years and it's fine. I think anything larger is overkill and you really want the portability.
Edited at June 15, 2012 12:31 PM
June 15, 2012 12:33 PM - dibs
that Campblee Hausfiled for $59 can't be beat as long as you don't need a largewr framing gun and want to use heavier grinding/sanding/ratchet tools
Edited at June 15, 2012 12:33 PM
June 15, 2012 12:36 PM - Arkady
I'm just the messenger, dibs.
Edited at June 15, 2012 12:36 PM
June 15, 2012 12:36 PM - dibs
Technically, he's right.
June 15, 2012 12:41 PM - bxgrl
I don't know, now. We need to look at MM's space and see if she wants to change anything enough o need framing. I don't really thinks so but it's up to her. In which case, I wonder if Home Depot rents a heavier duty nail gun and compressor. Portability is important though.
June 15, 2012 12:43 PM - bxgrl
Love T.S.Eliot. Mentioned him to a young person awhile back and they didn't know who he was- and we were talking about literature :(
June 15, 2012 12:51 PM - Arkady
bxgrl - U-Haul rents tools too.
June 15, 2012 12:53 PM - bxgrl
Good to know, arkady- thanks!
June 15, 2012 12:56 PM - dibs
Lots of hardware stores rent tools. I'm sure there are many places in Troy that rent tools.
June 15, 2012 12:57 PM - CGar
"What showers, M4L? I haven't seen any in a forecast."

AND WHAT COMES AFTER ROFLMMFAO?!?!?!?!? Mrs. Storm Field, you're not.

June 15, 2012 12:59 PM - CGar
I'm dying for a milkshake. Had one at Shake Shack recently, but it was the size of a shot glass . . . and expensive to boot. WTF.
Edited at June 15, 2012 12:59 PM
June 15, 2012 1:00 PM - CGar
"bxgrl - U-Haul rents tools too."

So does Rentboy.
June 15, 2012 1:16 PM - Arkady
Why not a DIY milkshake?
Edited at June 15, 2012 1:16 PM
June 15, 2012 1:16 PM - CGar
DIY? Shirley you jest.
June 15, 2012 1:24 PM - Slope4Eva
It better not rain!! I just became the cook for a simple 14 person bbq.
June 15, 2012 1:26 PM - Slope4Eva
and, of course, I just got back from the store and forgot to buy all the stuff I don't like; beans, those onions in the red sauce, etc. Ugh.
June 15, 2012 1:28 PM - bxgrl
You don't like beans either? That's wonderful! I'm so tired of being the person everyone screams at, "What? You don't like beans?!" Like it's unamerican or something.
June 15, 2012 1:30 PM - CGar
Add to the eWife's banned foods list . . . beans.

All types of beans, dear, or only certain varieties???
June 15, 2012 1:32 PM - petebklyn
"cook for a simple 14 person bbq." -- not nice to refer to inlaws as simple people.

Was thinking of you earlier today, eva. Talking to guy at Y upstate -- he grew up slope slope somewhere...went to john jay for awhile....was aquatic director at 9th st Y and lifeguard at coney. I guessed moved upstate when his kids were young but didn't lose the accent. Name is Pat so assuming one of your people. My age or maybe bit older - which bothers me 'cause he swims so much faster than I do. but now I know why--- lifeguard and aquatic director.
Edited at June 15, 2012 1:32 PM
June 15, 2012 1:35 PM - bxgrl
I like stringbeans - sometimes.
Edited at June 15, 2012 1:35 PM
June 15, 2012 1:40 PM - Slope4Eva
Bxgrl, I hate all beans except string beans. Baked, lima, ugh, gross.

Pete, its my family. I wouldn't even put in print what I say about the in-laws, lol. Except MIL, rest her soul, was a wonderful woman. Nice to know you think of me off-line, I'm blushing. Does Pat know that back in the 60's, the men's locker room could be seen from the street, lol.
June 15, 2012 1:40 PM - MontroseMorris
Thanks, Arkady and Dave. I want to be able to run a regular nailer, as well as an upholstery staple gun off the compressor. I'm planning to learn how to do upholstery after the dust settles. Anything that can do that will also run a smaller nailer, if I need one. You're right, portability is a key factor, and so it needs to be something that can easily be hauled up and down the basement stairs, when necessary.
June 15, 2012 1:40 PM - Slope4Eva
Lots of garlic, Bxgrl.
June 15, 2012 1:41 PM - petebklyn
stringbeans....little olive oil, s/p, whatever spice and then roast in oven. or grill when you're upstate.
Edited at June 15, 2012 1:41 PM
June 15, 2012 1:56 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Yum...Pete, you makin' me stringbeans for dinner? What kind of fish are we having with it?
June 15, 2012 1:57 PM - Slope4Eva
Arkady, I just read the recipe you posted. Sound delish. Needs a fancier name than Mac 'n Cheese.
June 15, 2012 2:01 PM - CGar
"Needs a fancier name than Mac 'n Cheese."

How about . . .

Arkady's VHM British-Inspired Mac 'n Cheese.
Edited at June 15, 2012 2:01 PM
June 15, 2012 2:06 PM - Slope4Eva
A little better.

June 15, 2012 2:07 PM - Not_Logged_In
Return of You Know Who: Snappy did you watch 'Forks over knifes'???

The What
Someday this war is gonna end...
June 15, 2012 2:10 PM - CGar
Hey, Eva, not to bury the lead (after all these months), but did I tell you that my new manager/old manager had a baby in February??? She had to take early maternity leave so I haven't actually seen her since I started the new job. She's on my FB page, but don't know if you can see pics of the baby on her page from that.
Edited at June 15, 2012 2:10 PM
June 15, 2012 2:19 PM - Slopefarm
When used in that context, the spelling is "lede" -- it's a journalism term of art.
June 15, 2012 2:19 PM - Slope4Eva
OMG, how cute. I can only see the profile pic. Not that I ever thought about it, but I guess I didn't expect her to be having kids. Very cute, tell her I said Congratulations. She knows you will do all the work (again), she's milking this (no puns about breastfeeding please). That's a long maternity leave, I assume all is OK?
June 15, 2012 2:22 PM - ilovestoops
Slopey ruined my plans with his 10:22 post! A while back I created a sign in name "Emily Litella" with "SNL" as the avatar. I hadn't read the original skit but remember the topic and had planned a similar rant, for when we were discussing the election, along the lines of:
"What’s all this talk about the presidential erection. It’s disgusting that people are going around the country talking about it. Are they jealous of the size of black men? No, there was a woman and a black man talking about the erection a while back so that’s not it. It’s disgraceful that America puts up with that sort of talk!"
June 15, 2012 2:23 PM - Slope4Eva
Slopey, any Fathers' day plans?
June 15, 2012 2:25 PM - CGar
"She knows you will do all the work (again) . . . . That's a long maternity leave, I assume all is OK?"

LOL. She worked at home as much as she could in February until she had the baby.
Edited at June 15, 2012 2:25 PM
June 15, 2012 2:26 PM - Slope4Eva
She's good people, I liked her.
June 15, 2012 2:31 PM - Partridge
" Are they jealous of the size of black men?"

LOL!
June 15, 2012 2:34 PM - bxgrl
"When used in that context, the spelling is "lede" -- it's a journalism term of art."

Excuse me, slopey but isn't that arkady's job to correct us on correct usage, hmmmm?
June 15, 2012 2:34 PM - Slopefarm
Sorry, stoops. You could still rant about national race horses, too much sax and violins on television, etc. The brilliance of the presidential erections skit is the way they made "erections" mean buildings, I imagine to get it to fly with network censors, but at the same time make it really clear what the real joke was. Great great writing in those first 2-3 years of SNL.

eva -- Mrs. Slopey and the farmhand are doing the planning. Best gift would be a fully healed knee so I could play a few hours of hoops in the morning.
June 15, 2012 2:35 PM - bxgrl
You laugh, Partridge, but when I was married, white women used to actually ask me if it was true!
Edited at June 15, 2012 2:35 PM
June 15, 2012 2:39 PM - Slope4Eva
Yes, Slopey, sorry to hear about the knee. That's sucks.

Well, Bxgrl?????????????????? Don't leave us "hanging".
Edited at June 15, 2012 2:39 PM
June 15, 2012 2:40 PM - petebklyn
again, there is the reason for the high health care.....these jackasses pretending they are couple decades younger than the truth and thinking they should be playing the sports of young people...or the jackasses that take running and do it until injure themselves.....then feel entitled to expensive medical care for their irresponsible behavior. MRIs, therapists, etc. etc etc.
Edited at June 15, 2012 2:40 PM
June 15, 2012 2:40 PM - petebklyn
I'm sure DIBS and I have more varied experience in those matters.
Edited at June 15, 2012 2:40 PM
June 15, 2012 2:41 PM - Arkady
The mac & cheese recipe is from a young American girl of Indonesian extraction who has never been to England.
Edited at June 15, 2012 2:41 PM
June 15, 2012 2:43 PM - ilovestoops
Yeah, slopey, I had planned to rant about those, not to mention endangered feces. Oh, well, at least there's someone else who remembers how brilliant the show was then!
Edited at June 15, 2012 2:43 PM
June 15, 2012 2:44 PM - Slope4Eva
Pete, in my eyes you are a sweet 'ol gent. Don't go there, lol. J/K. Did you see my post about seeing the nudey men at the Y? It could have been for just one day, I don't recall the details, except us all running up there to look in. Then someone walking by and looking to see what we were doing and she chased us all away.
Edited at June 15, 2012 2:44 PM
June 15, 2012 2:45 PM - Slopefarm
Yeah, eva, talk about burying the lede (not that I have a stake in the answer).
Edited at June 15, 2012 2:45 PM
June 15, 2012 2:45 PM - CGar
"Indonesian extraction"

You really shouldn't use words that will get dave aroused.
June 15, 2012 2:47 PM - petebklyn
I was young once too, eva.
I'll ask Pat next time I see him about the view of locker room.
June 15, 2012 2:48 PM - Not_Logged_In
Return of You Know Who: I'm having a Weekend Disco Party at The Beach tonight---->
Spinning the greatest classics of the Disco era.
Get a Login and join the fun!!!!
frownstoner.com

SDFL
Someday this war is gonna end...
June 15, 2012 2:52 PM - Slopefarm
Stoops, don't forget plans to make Puerto Rico a steak, busting schoolchildren and eagle rights, not to mention her anchor foil "Cheddar Cheese."
June 15, 2012 2:55 PM - bxgrl
Eva- :-D
Edited at June 15, 2012 2:55 PM
June 15, 2012 2:59 PM - dibs
Just finished weeding the tomato patch here in Philly. Hotter down here than up there
Edited at June 15, 2012 2:58 PM
June 15, 2012 2:59 PM - Slope4Eva
lol
June 15, 2012 2:59 PM - ilovestoops
HaHa, slopey - I had forgotten those! I miss Emily.
June 15, 2012 3:03 PM - CGar
"Pete, in my eyes you are a sweet 'ol gent."

You always were delusional, Eva. Though you certainly got the "old" part right.
June 15, 2012 3:05 PM - CGar
"Hotter down here than up there"

Since we've well established that the Brunch Club is going to wind up together "down there", you'd best get used to it, dave. Not to mention, we'll be in much better company.
June 15, 2012 3:07 PM - Slope4Eva
Hey, I was right about you! Just for the record, I met Jamie Dimon on his first day at work also, and, I didn't offer to take him for his ID.
June 15, 2012 3:10 PM - CGar
Yes, but (a) you met me in person before you "met" me online and (ii) when you meet Pete in person you'll see that he looks like a shady character whom you'd cross the street to avoid.
June 15, 2012 3:11 PM - DeadCatBounce
Seattle has a serious moonface problem.
Edited at June 15, 2012 3:11 PM
June 15, 2012 3:12 PM - CGar
When Pete strolls Smith Street in his bathrobe tearing down lost puppy posters, he looks exactly like Vinnie "the Chin" Gigante . . .
June 15, 2012 3:14 PM - CGar
Is MM still trolling???

MM, I loved yesterday's BOTD, but I'm none too happy with you for, once again, being one block from my house and not coming to visit.
June 15, 2012 3:16 PM - Slope4Eva
Who knows, I may scare Pete away!

haha, DCB enjoy the wedding.
June 15, 2012 3:19 PM - CGar
It's impossible to scare off Pete. Trust me, I've been trying for years. :-/
June 15, 2012 3:19 PM - Partridge
Can you find out which states they are from, DCB. We need to know if they are all cheese heads.
June 15, 2012 3:26 PM - Slope4Eva
haha, nope, Wisconsiners are headed to Canada. Sorry for the long post, but I couldn't leave out that one of the reasons they are going is for the good school lunches.

Coast Guard on Alert OTTAWA (The API Report)– The Canadian coast guard was on alert today, preparing for what it fears could be a massive invasion of boat people from Wisconsin.

Conor McGlindon, commander of the Royal Canadian Mounted Coast Guard (RCMCG), said that satellite photos had revealed a “substantial flotilla” in the making, as Wisconsinites prepared to flee their state for their neighbor to the North.

“Word has gotten around that we have policemen, firemen, and basic school lunches up here,” Mr. McGlindon said.“You can’t blame these boat people for seeking a better life. But we are under orders to intercept them.”

Edited at June 15, 2012 3:26 PM
June 15, 2012 3:27 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URgwqiJd-Co

*Octopus*

June 15, 2012 3:28 PM - ilovestoops
All except attorneys can ignore this post - looking for free legal advice. Sort of long explanation but answer should be easy (I think).
Grandparents buy property. Inherited by their children, A, B, C, and D, all deceased. Cousins, children of A, B, C, and D, are named 1, 2, 3, and 4. 1, 2, and 3 want to get rid of worthless property and know someone, X, who wants it. No one knows where cousin 4 is. Can 1, 2, and 3 each file quit claim deeds for 25% of property and assign it to X? Would they designate it as a 25% interest in “legal description of property” on deed?
Thanks for your help!

June 15, 2012 3:29 PM - DeadCatBounce
Rehearsal dinner tonight.
This must be the moonface capital of the world. It's kind of like a moonface Stepford Wives.
Edited at June 15, 2012 3:29 PM
June 15, 2012 3:52 PM - dibs
Well, think "Portlandia." it's pretty close.
June 15, 2012 4:02 PM - dibs
What's all this talk about Poles in Greece????? I thought the Poles were in poland.
June 15, 2012 4:04 PM - bxgrl
DCB- does everyone have bubble hair and wear perfect polyester maxi dresses?
Edited at June 15, 2012 4:04 PM
June 15, 2012 4:07 PM - bxgrl
Perhaps they meant greased poles?
June 15, 2012 4:09 PM - CGar
"What's all this talk about Poles in Greece?????"

I thought you were the expert on Greeced Poles???
June 15, 2012 4:09 PM - CGar
Jinx, Bxgrl!
June 15, 2012 4:12 PM - petebklyn
I think you have to have lawyer or someone find 4. unless the parent of 4 had will which excluded 4 from inheriting prop. Assuming grandparents died before parent of 4.
June 15, 2012 4:23 PM - petebklyn
oh boy, I get to go to LongIsland tomorrow for a party.
of course cooler in nyc....more moonfaces.
June 15, 2012 4:26 PM - ilovestoops
Pete: not going to spend any time or money finding someone - I sure hope you're wrong and we can each get rid of our share! If we don't pay taxes we can get county to take it but don't want black mark on our names or credit.
Edited at June 15, 2012 4:26 PM
June 15, 2012 4:28 PM - petebklyn
did 4's parent have a will?
Edited at June 15, 2012 4:28 PM
June 15, 2012 4:30 PM - kazootite
"Should we have increased standards of decency here?"

Hey, I just read many of the construction double entendres above.
I hope Scott is not reading today! :-/ j/k

Does anyone know the correct form: double entendres, doubles entendre, or doubles entendres :-/

June 15, 2012 4:30 PM - dibs
You can't sell shares like that except maybe to each other. No one's going to buy part of a property when they don't know who the other party is. Nutso.

Is it still part of the grandparents' estate? If so, you, as descendents, have no liability if that's all you are worried about.
June 15, 2012 4:30 PM - Slope4Eva
Stoops, would this be one of those instances where you would/could put a legal notice in newspapers. I have no idea, but it certainly doesn't seem right that you would be stuck with no alternatives. Good luck, maybe the lawyers will be back shortly.
June 15, 2012 4:31 PM - petebklyn
surely couldn't decrease our standards.
June 15, 2012 4:33 PM - petebklyn
benson always talking about how wonderful texas is. get him to buy it. he's NewYorker...can really add a couple zeros to price and he'll never know-will still think is real cheap and he got a bargain. delepp too maybe.
Edited at June 15, 2012 4:33 PM
June 15, 2012 4:34 PM - dibs
I don't think any of our resident lawyers have a real estate/estate expertise.
Edited at June 15, 2012 4:34 PM
June 15, 2012 4:35 PM - petebklyn
I don't think anyone here is admitted to practice in texas. not sure they are in new york either to tell the truth.
but obviously could be difference in state laws.
Edited at June 15, 2012 4:35 PM
June 15, 2012 4:36 PM - dibs
Oh, it's in Texas. every state has differing real esrtate and estate laws. You need to consult a TX lawyer. But unless the title has passed through the estate, you have no liability, which it sounds like is all you are worried about.
Edited at June 15, 2012 4:36 PM
June 15, 2012 4:37 PM - dibs
Jinx, Pete.
June 15, 2012 4:37 PM - kazootite
Stoops, isn't it possible to find almost anyone through those who know how to use ancestry.com, and those types of sites? Someone suggested to me that I get a death certificate for a relative, because it might show a name of family member we wanted to find. That person was into genealogy and had many useful ideas.
June 15, 2012 4:38 PM - Slope4Eva
I believe it is double entendre.

How'd it go at the doctor with your Mom, Kazoo?
June 15, 2012 4:38 PM - dibs
I would also think there's some process for just not accepting assets that may be willed to you.
June 15, 2012 4:39 PM - dibs
I knew a drag queen named Jean Eology.
Edited at June 15, 2012 4:39 PM
June 15, 2012 4:40 PM - kazootite
Stoops, one of my grandmothers was from Dallas. She had only a slight accent. Many men in her family were lawyers, but alas they are deceased.
June 15, 2012 4:40 PM - CGar
Sorry, Why, but, as dave said, it's not my area of expertise, plus the question requires knowledge of Texas law, so I'm afraid I'm not able to opine.
June 15, 2012 4:42 PM - dibs
Maybe if she watched the next episode of dallas, some questions might get answered since they are talking about Miss Ellie's will and the ownership of South Fork.
Edited at June 15, 2012 4:43 PM
June 15, 2012 4:43 PM - kazootite
Eva, thanks for asking. It was a little difficult and the doc was not in a good mood. I have a lot to process. Couldn't sleep a lot last night, but we will get everything straightened out.
June 15, 2012 4:45 PM - Arkady
Stoops - We had a similar situation w/ some land in FL - & not family members. We ended up selling our bit to another party - making less than we might've but just getting it dealt w/. Then he deals w/ it & his reward is probably making more than he would have to have shared w/ us. It took 21 years to come to that point for various reasons & I had to pay my portion of tax on it every year. I doubt I ended up making back what I'd laid out overf the years.
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June 15, 2012 4:46 PM - kazootite
"Maybe if she watched the next episode of dallas, some questions might get answered since they are talking about Miss Ellie's will and the ownership of South Fork."

Dave, you are a veritable fountain (nh) of knowledge and ideas! Why did not anyone else think of that!? :-/

June 15, 2012 4:51 PM - CGar
^^^I was equally useless in trying to advise Arkady on this real estate issue.
June 15, 2012 4:53 PM - dibs
The last thing you want in Texas is a NYC lawyer, especially a Jewish one.
June 15, 2012 4:56 PM - dibs
I could also check on Silverdaddies in Texas. I'm sure there are a few lawyers on there.
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June 15, 2012 4:57 PM - kazootite
Stoops, I cannot be asked to remember exactly all of the 1,2,3,4. :-) But, if the 1-4 are all deceased, and you got a death certif. for whoever is (in line) the parent, then also the grandparent of the missing person you want to find-- you may see a name on the certificate of the children of so and so. Clear as mud, yes, sorry. I still haven't done the research for the family person I want to find, because I'm too busy right now. (writing on OT, etc)

In other words, maybe you can find the person, and would not need lawyers. Then if the person is deceased you and your abc, 123, would have the property to yourselves.
June 15, 2012 4:58 PM - Deleted
Stoops;

You really need to seek the advice of a lawyer who knows Texas real estate. The one thing I do know about Texas RE is that rights are not bundled like in other places. For example, the right to explore for minerals and resources is sold distinctly from the other rights.


June 15, 2012 4:59 PM - dibs
kazoo....she said she wasn't going to spend any time or money trying to find the person.
June 15, 2012 5:01 PM - ilovestoops
Arkady - sounds like a similar situation and yes, we're tired of paying taxes although they're only now getting close to $30/year!

If the property were worth what South Fork is, it would be worth finding missing cousins so we could eventually sell it!
June 15, 2012 5:04 PM - dibs
Could you possibly write a song about this???

"All my taxes are paid in Texas.
And Texas is the last place I want to be
But all my taxes are paid in Texas
And that's why I hang my hat here in the OT

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June 15, 2012 5:05 PM - Slope4Eva
George Strait, my favorite.
June 15, 2012 5:05 PM - ilovestoops
Ya'll don't understand that this property is not worth spending any money on getting stuff figured out about it.

By the way, I'm quite familiar with separate mineral rights. We've always kept some rights on property we've sold, just in case. I think mineral rights include water, which for us, has more value than oil! Some properties in Texas have such convoluted ownership of mineral rights being passed down through generations that they'll never get straightened out.
June 15, 2012 5:06 PM - Deleted
Re: Verizon building. During the boom of a few years ago, there was talk of Verizon selling it to a new owner who was going to reclad it (to make it look like less of an eyesore0. I guess that project died with the collapse of the bubble.

The Verizon building on 6th Ave and 42nd was also an eyesore. In that case, it was sold to a new owner who reclad it, and it makes a big difference.

BTW, this is the point that FSRG and I always made about Fedders: if the area gentrified, their facades could be redone to a higher level of taste.
June 15, 2012 5:07 PM - ilovestoops
Dave: great lyrics - perfect! Although I've never heard the version Eva mentioned.
June 15, 2012 5:07 PM - kazootite
Yes, Dave, remember that I wrote I could not be asked to remember all of it?
Going the way of the genealogy-people would not take much time and someone else could look for the info. I just phoned the relative of a friend who does that stuff. Stoops, I hope your problem is soon solved!

June 15, 2012 5:07 PM - dibs
I'd never sell the right to drill in my back forty. I've given it away too many times already
June 15, 2012 5:09 PM - dibs
Of course you must have heard it....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMNw_-yUm_0
June 15, 2012 5:10 PM - kazootite
Stoops, for a long time I didn't even know my grandmother was from Texas. She was just the grandma in the house who cooked, etc.
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June 15, 2012 5:10 PM - CGar
I'd never sell my right to drill in Section 18.
June 15, 2012 5:11 PM - Slope4Eva
Oh Stoops, check this out. Swoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon.
From the movie Pure Country. This was my sister's wedding song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnFs7SCI3ZM
June 15, 2012 5:13 PM - kazootite
Dave at 5:07. Be careful. The decency police may be nearby.
:-)
June 15, 2012 5:14 PM - dibs
I've always liked "Walk Through This World With Me."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLiOD0laJbQ
June 15, 2012 5:15 PM - Slope4Eva
OK, come on folks, is that not the most beautiful man you've ever seen? Save a horse, ride a cowboy!!!!!
June 15, 2012 5:17 PM - dibs
I watch Professional Bull Riders every now and then for the hot latino cowboys

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June 15, 2012 5:17 PM - Deleted
Maybe the OT should issue rights to rants and indecent posts. We could raise money to keep the site going, and keep a lid on them. A win-win!
June 15, 2012 5:18 PM - Slope4Eva
Dave, then you probably remember this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcrgyt8qjGM

June 15, 2012 5:20 PM - bxgrl
dave already owns indecent posts.
June 15, 2012 5:21 PM - Slope4Eva
Errands to run, see y'all later.
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June 15, 2012 5:49 PM - MontroseMorris
"MM, I loved yesterday's BOTD, but I'm none too happy with you for, once again, being one block from my house and not coming to visit."

But CGar, if you look closely at the photo credits, I didn't take any of the pictures, so I was not actually in your neighborhood. Ain't the internet wunnerful?
June 15, 2012 6:04 PM - ilovestoops
Dave - now I recognize the name of that song. I listened to a few seconds of each of the songs ya'll posted but can't be asked to listen to all of them!

The videos did remind me of one of my "hates" - those damn cowboy hats they wear all the time, even indoors! Normally I try not to make any judgements about what people wear because, really, it just doesn't matter, but those hats drive me crazy. And for some reason all the teenage boys in rural TX think they have to wear them everywhere as well!
June 15, 2012 6:06 PM - rf
I steam string beans and then add sauteed minced garlic and soy sauce. Serve cold or room temp. Yummy.
June 15, 2012 6:06 PM - rf
I steam string beans and then add sauteed minced garlic and soy sauce. Serve cold or room temp. Yummy.
June 15, 2012 6:10 PM - bxgrl
I have to try that RF
June 15, 2012 6:28 PM - rf
Just do it once, bxgrl.

If your farewell fiesta winds up being a potluck, I can bring them!
June 15, 2012 6:33 PM - rf
Kazoo, I don't think Scott was thinking about that kind of standards of decency.

Sorry about your mom's doctor visit. I think the next time we go to the gerontologist (next Tuesday), I will ask the doc, who we like a lot, to skip the pre-interview by the medical students.

Today we visited the pain specialist, whose steroid injections did not help my dad's leg and back pain. He said that my dad "failed" the treatment. I said that the treatment "failed." He said it was a matter of semantics but I don't think so.
June 15, 2012 6:43 PM - Partridge
I would say the pain specialist FAILED in treating your father.
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June 15, 2012 6:52 PM - rf
Thanks, Partridge. We still need the guy so I didn't push too much. I don't think he's used to failing, and he did back off (sort of, kind of).
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June 15, 2012 6:56 PM - Partridge
Yeah, he might have something to prove to himself and find a solution! Hopefully soon for your father's sake. Many of these methods can be by trial and error. Hang in.
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June 15, 2012 7:25 PM - denton
Hi all:

Been busy living in Manhattan, and sh*t, hope you guys are all doing well.

Did benson get a job? Did anyone lose their job? Did anyone without a job get one?

Anyway, on this building, 375 Pearl Street....

I believe there was a New York Telephone sign, and then a Bell Atlantic sign.

What is happening in the Verizon buildings is that with the switch from copper to fiber, Verizon suddenly needs a lot less space for switching equipment. So what they have done is to convert some of their buildings into commercial condominiums. They've kept a few floors for the new equipment, and sold off the rest. they did this at 1095 Sixth Avenue.

They had planned to do this at 375 Pearl Street, they sold part of the building to Taconic Partners (who also owned 111 8th Avenue, where Google and B&N.com had their facilities (Google recently bought the building).

Taconic had plans to strip off that fugly facade and do a new glass facade (as they did at 1095). Then 2008 happened. But here are the plans:
http://www.taconicinvestments.com/portfolio/375_pearl_street.html

But I was told recently that Taconic has walked away and given the keys to the bank. Remember, if you walk away from your mortgage, you're a left wing amoral socialist. But if a big company does it, it's a business decision. lol.
http://tinyurl.com/bterw3q


June 15, 2012 7:38 PM - Arkady
Hey, Denton!!!
June 15, 2012 7:44 PM - MontroseMorris
Denton, miss you around here! We'll be country neighbors before long, you and the Mrs. will have to drop by on your way to/from the wilderness.

Love your last statement!
June 15, 2012 7:56 PM - bxgrl
Hey denton! Lots to tell you. MM and I are moving up to Troy, for starters.
June 15, 2012 8:01 PM - Deleted
Yo Denton!
June 15, 2012 8:14 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
is it wrong that i actually LIKE the verizon building? how is it any different than the signery (sp?) of the domino sugar factory. it's almost iconic in a way. when i take the N train over the bridge if it's not packed instead of the R home from work I always look at it and like it. funny tho since verizon passed off an account to some collection agency that is hounding me now for like 70 bux from the last MILLENIUM. grrrr. so yeah, i kinda like the building.

*rob*

June 15, 2012 8:15 PM - kazootite
"Kazoo, I don't think Scott was thinking about that kind of standards of decency."

haha, rf, I know. I must use opportunities to j/k Dave.
June 15, 2012 8:21 PM - Deleted
Domino is a Cool old factory. Verizon bldg looks like a retarded Tetris block.
June 15, 2012 8:27 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Domino is a Cool old factory.

uhh. it is now. but not when it's infested with yuppie moonfaces when developers get their claws on it. "tetris block" hahaha, i dont know, i see what you mean, but i kinda sorta like the architecture of lower manhattan. I would love to live in battery park city or in FIDI or whatever it's called. Granted the people down there are sterile as FUCK... but they aren't that much different than the sterile fucks who infest brooklyn these days. oh good the sun is about to go down, going to go to the park with duke and write in our journals.





*rob*
June 15, 2012 8:40 PM - ilovestoops
Denton - so glad to hear from you! Thanks for the info on the verizon building - I didn't know what ultimately happened. Also appreciated your comment on the hypocrisy re walking away from mortgage!
Please join us more often and you and Mrs. D come to our get-togethers, especially when seeing MM & Bxgrl off.
June 15, 2012 9:16 PM - bxgrl
Knew it wouldn't last.
June 15, 2012 11:28 PM - kazootite
"the park with duke and write in our journals."

Does Duke have journals too?
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