Thursday OT
June 7, 2012 8:43 AM - dibs
Today I'm going to talk about the market. It's long overdue. I am not going to respond to anyone (you know who you are) unless you make a valid, supportable case to rebutt anything I say.

This is a 3 year chart of the S & P 500 and shows the movement and the % appreciation from the 2009 lows.

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June 7, 2012 8:51 AM - dibs
I'm not sure if the chart above of the S & P looks scary to you or not. It does not to me. However, this (below) is the chart of 10 Year treasury Yields. Remember, as the direction goes downward, that means yields are falling and price is rising. Prices only rise because there are more buyers than sellers and this represents a lot of reasons, fligght to safety (vs. all other riskier assets) being one of them.

Not that many people are calling this a bond bubble but it is, of a different sort. It is a bubble of DESPAIR, of PESSIMISM. Never in the last 50 years have so many people been so pessimistic of risky assets (like the stock market). Given the relative cheapness of the stock market (historic P/E, the amount of cash on corporate balance sheets, and, most importantly the historic high yield, ESPECIALLY relative to Treasuries) the market is cheap.

I'm making a big bull call here on the market. Even if it doesn't materialize, the ongoing yield that you get is in the 2.5-3.5% range for stocks,
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#1
June 7, 2012 8:55 AM - Deleted
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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#2
June 7, 2012 8:56 AM - dibs
A MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE is saving for retirement. Given how compounding works, it is IMPERATIVE to start in your ealy years (20s), even if the amounts you can put away are small. GET A ROTH IRA.

You will not compound much if you buy Treasuries yielding 1.6%. If you buy a diversified (20 or more) stock portfolio with yields of 5-7% you'll do very well. yes, some of those stocks need to be riskier, yielding 7-14% to get you to the 5-7% average but the divesrification negates the individual risk and there is really only market risk. If you start in your 20s and save through your 60s, the market risk is all but gone over that period. Long term market returns ar 5-7%
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#3
June 7, 2012 8:57 AM - dibs
Those who snooze, lose. Pay attention young man.

[slaps knuckles with ruler]
#4
June 7, 2012 9:01 AM - dibs
Within the class of higher yielding, riskier assets, I'd include European equities. Just stay away from the banks.

DPSGY, VIVEF, FTE, DTEGY, RDS/B
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#5
June 7, 2012 9:15 AM - dibs
On a more lighthearted note, when the Queen was asked how she coped with meeting so many people, she responded...

"It's not as difficult as it might seem. I don't have to introduce myself, they all seem to know who I am"
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#6
June 7, 2012 9:17 AM - Deleted
"Women despise gorgeous women":

http://living.msn.com/life-inspired/love-about-me/article?cp-documentid=250532672

Discuss.
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#7
June 7, 2012 9:19 AM - Arkady
But, dibs, with buying & selling isn't there a lot of tax to pay when your stock goes up? For instance w/ the one you've been touting recently, if you sell won't you lose a lot of the profit? And also, didn't you lose to taxes on the holdings you sold in order to buy the new one?
Signed,
Not a mathmetician
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#8
June 7, 2012 9:20 AM - dibs
Benson, I think we discussed that story when it came out, months ago.

There were no disvcernable conclusions but a few snarky pics posted
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#9
June 7, 2012 9:23 AM - petebklyn

arkady, Next lesson will be that taxes are for little people. And he doesn't mean just cgar by that.
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#10
June 7, 2012 9:23 AM - Deleted
DIBS;

I bring up the rear when it comes to cultural issues!
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#11
June 7, 2012 9:23 AM - dibs
At this stage, Arkady, I only take long term capital gains.

That said, if a stock shoots up a lot, say 40-50% AND IT LOOKS OVERVALUED, why not sell it and pay the tax??? If the downside represents more than the tax, the rational thing to do is sell. But I want people to focus on longer term.

Commissions are negligible these days (like $7.95 for practically any trtade, except foreign listed stuff).
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#12
June 7, 2012 9:27 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
oh get the fuck out of here with this stupid market shit. no one cares. newsflash: the economy sucks and it's getting worse, forEVER. stop being such a useless shill.

*rob*

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#13
June 7, 2012 9:27 AM - petebklyn
is that stupid jubilee over with already? that stuff makes me want to barf. fawning over people who should have been exterminated centuries ago.
#14
June 7, 2012 9:28 AM - dibs
The stock that went up 50% (IMUC) I still hold because the prospects for its glioblastoma vaccine indicate that the company is worth $6-8.00 a share, not the current $3.00. YES, IT WILL BE VOLATILE on the way up but I have strong conviction given the orphan drug status already.
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#15
June 7, 2012 9:29 AM - petebklyn
all your trade only charges $7.95? is that per minute?
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#16
June 7, 2012 9:31 AM - dibs
You are absolutely correct, benson. the stranglehold that the unions have in the big cities is incredible. Why do they have it??? Because they've been able to bribe (er, contribute to) politicians so easily.
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#17
June 7, 2012 9:31 AM - dibs
Per, trade.
#18
June 7, 2012 9:32 AM - Deleted
Regarding unions and Wisconsin:

-last night I attended a class on construction project management. At that class, I learned that on large residential construction projects in NYC, the following union trades must be used for these tasks:

-install a refrigerator: steamfitter
-install a microwave: electrician
-install a gas range: plumber

All of these tasks are normally provided by less-skilled labor. Think this situation helps keep housing affordable in NYC?

As long as unions continue to defend these types of practices, they will feel the brunt of popular (or more accurately, unpopular) opinion. Spin it any way you want, that is the reality.


#19
June 7, 2012 9:33 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
A MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE is saving for retirement. Given how compounding works, it is IMPERATIVE to start in your ealy years (20s), even if the amounts you can put away are small. GET A ROTH IRA.

lol. okay. again, no one cares. there will always be places to rent that one can afford on social security. and if social security aint around, one can just jump off a bridge. it's retarded to give ones money to a bunch of worthless stock market jockeys to play with. screw them. i WOULD cancel my stupid 401k plan but all my requests to do so keep getting ignored.


*rob*

#20
June 7, 2012 9:34 AM - CGar
"rebutt"

It's spelled "rebut", but you get a pass since we all know you have "butt" on your mind.
#21
June 7, 2012 9:34 AM - petebklyn
just wait for your 'trade' to unionize. No longer will it be $7.95
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#22
June 7, 2012 9:34 AM - Deleted
Bribing govt and having a stranglehold? Hmmm sounds familiar.
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#23
June 7, 2012 9:36 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
Miley Cyrus (Hannah montana) getting married makes me feel really REALLY old.

*rob*

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#24
June 7, 2012 9:37 AM - dibs
Luckily "rough trade" has no union.
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#25
June 7, 2012 9:37 AM - CGar
"little people. And he doesn't mean just cgar by that"

Pete, I don't know why you're so mean to me all the time, but you hurt my feelings.
#26
June 7, 2012 9:39 AM - dibs
Thin skinned, CGar???? Remember, thin skins make the best lampshades. Toughen up.
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#27
June 7, 2012 9:42 AM - petebklyn
I'll start by saying I don't know laws or the field but am bit skeptical of your claim or maybe being a bit coy with your phrasing, benson.
first, I would ask what is 'large construction project'?
and the way this was phrased "the following union trades " -- are you stating that law requires 'Union' labor or a 'licensed' trade.

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#28
June 7, 2012 9:42 AM - CGar
"thin skins make the best lampshades"

Spoken like a true Nazi.

"So when all hell broke loose, and the Germans were running out of soap and figured, "What the hell? Why don't we just cook up Mrs. Greenwald?!"" --Dustin Hoffman
#29
June 7, 2012 9:43 AM - Deleted
"Toughen up."

Yes, let's have a "toughen up" day on the OT. I suggest that we have a special session for the Ladies of the OT. This latter course can be held at Partridge's shop, which seems to evolving into the headquarters of the Ladies' Auxiliary.

.
#30
June 7, 2012 9:45 AM - dibs
benson, isn't your social club (VFW?) not too far from partridge's shop???? I wonder if Partridge's shop is far enough south so that it has a terlet.
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#31
June 7, 2012 9:45 AM - petebklyn
is the shop called Partridge's? sounds too brit for me.
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#32
June 7, 2012 9:46 AM - CGar
Gentlemen (and I use that term loosely), as Slopey advised me yesterday, kindly adjust your sarcasm meters and put your seats and tray tables in the upright position. Dost thou really think that I take anything that the Old Man plathers on about seriously???
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#33
June 7, 2012 9:47 AM - Deleted
Pete;

If you want to think I'm spinning or being coy, be my guest. Ask anyone in the construction field if a large project in this town can be done with non-union labor. I am not revealing some deep secret. Folks can verify what I just said for themselves pretty easily. In fact, I encourage them to look into it.
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#34
June 7, 2012 9:48 AM - petebklyn
far be it for me to be sarcastic. I was merely stating that dibs was not referring solely to you.
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#35
June 7, 2012 9:49 AM - Deleted
DIBS;

Partridge's shop definitely doesn't have a terlet.
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#36
June 7, 2012 9:50 AM - rf
Benson, did you see my posts with suggestions for your wife's aunt on the OT last night?
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#37
June 7, 2012 9:51 AM - dibs
Oh yeah, I saw your posts about your wife's aunt. Tragic.
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#38
June 7, 2012 9:52 AM - petebklyn
just want if clarified.....Does NYC law require all 'large' projects be done with all union labor? Or does NYC code require a licensed person to perform certain tasks?

#39
June 7, 2012 9:52 AM - Deleted
"Ask anyone in the construction field if a large project in this town can be done with non-union labor. "

The rehab of my old building was done entirely without union labor.
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#40
June 7, 2012 9:52 AM - Deleted
and im fairly certain the other condo towers on the WB waterfront were done without union labor
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#41
June 7, 2012 9:53 AM - Arkady
BBC-TV used to have union laws beyond absurd. Want to put a clock on the set of a newsroom? One guy to hang it, another to plug it in & a third to set the time. Each trade had separate work hours so w/ tea breaks, etc. the hanging of the clock could extend for an entire day.
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#42
June 7, 2012 9:55 AM - Deleted
OK guys, you want to believe that what I said was wrong: be my guest. It's the same mentality that wants to deny what happened in Wisconsin, that the vote was due to "big money". People have their own eyes and ears, and know the reality in this town.
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#43
June 7, 2012 9:55 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Ask anyone in the construction field if a large project in this town can be done with non-union labor.

im chary of this. unless you mean GINORMOUS construction sites? almost every single construction site ive ever seen, NO one looks unionized and they appear to be making 4 dollars an hour.

*rob*

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#44
June 7, 2012 9:55 AM - petebklyn
what good is a clock if not good for entire day?
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#45
June 7, 2012 9:56 AM - petebklyn
there he goes again.
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#46
June 7, 2012 9:57 AM - Deleted
if what you say is wrong then we will believe that it is wrong.
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#47
June 7, 2012 9:57 AM - rf
Benson, you know that inflated rat that unions put up outside of many construction projects in Brooklyn?
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#48
June 7, 2012 9:58 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
seriously, i have NEVER seen any construction site in my life that was not pretty much ALL immigrant labor. im not anti-immigrant btw, but that is merely the fact of how things work these days.

*rob*

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#49
June 7, 2012 9:58 AM - Deleted
If you want me to clarify what I mean by "big project", it is one that uses one of the big outfits, like Bovis, Tishman-Speyer, etc. Renovation of a loft building in Billyburg doesn't qualify. Also, all government construction projects (2nd Ave Subway, East Side access, 3rd water tunnel, etc.) requires union labor.
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#50
June 7, 2012 9:59 AM - dibs
benson's correct. Yes, there are projects here and there that get awy with non-union labor but they are few and far between, and never in Manhattan
#51
June 7, 2012 10:00 AM - Deleted
"Yes, there are projects here and there that get awy with non-union labor but they are few and far between, and never in Manhattan"

that's not what he said. but i guess the word "large" is subjective.
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#52
June 7, 2012 10:00 AM - bfar
Speaking of non-union labor (and hello, all) a brief note to whoever ends up living in the elkins house: this is them 'fixing' your roof. Nice.

www.bradfarwell.com/halfassed.jpg
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#53
June 7, 2012 10:02 AM - dibs
bfar...looks like they are doing OK with those new rafter tails.
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#54
June 7, 2012 10:05 AM - bfar
Nailing onto rotted bug-eaten timbers seems like a way to make sure you continue with rotten bug-eaten new stuff, in my limited knowledge base... but really, the haphazard laying down of the roofing material, just rolling across whatever happened to be underneath and leaving the edges flapping in the breeze was perhaps more worrisome to me, mostly as an indicator of fundamental half-assedness.

Of course, perhaps it's a quick fix to stabilize and prevent further water damage, in which case it's certainly better than the series of shredded blue tarps, but my optimism is, uh, tempered by past observation.

(though I'm glad to finally see *something* happening.)
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#55
June 7, 2012 10:06 AM - Deleted
DH;

If you want to split hairs with me on what " large residential construction projects " (my words) mean, fine. As I told Pete, I encourage people to look into the issue - I am not claiming to be a gatekeeper of knowledge here. There must be some reason that the cost of construction in NYC (not land prices, but cost of construction) is double that of other large cities.
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#56
June 7, 2012 10:07 AM - dibs
It was sarcasm.
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#57
June 7, 2012 10:08 AM - bfar
(benson- walker was outspent 7 to 1, being able to take advantage of some campaing finance loopholes related to the recall. I'm not saying that's the only possible reason he lost, but you can't deny it was a factor)
#58
June 7, 2012 10:10 AM - bfar
Ah, okay.
#59
June 7, 2012 10:10 AM - dibs
While foreign investment in New York City residential real estate has captured the headlines, Massey Knakal Realty Services Chairman Robert Knakal appeared on CNBC’s “Street Signs” this afternoon to say foreign investors have also sought commercial properties (see video above). He reported seeing twice as much foreign investment in real estate thus far in 2012 as he did during the same period last year.
Knakal said most of the money was coming from nations that also rank among the United States’ top trading partners, led by Canada and Mexico. The investment comes in the form of both purchases and equity financing to established real estate players.
Like the residential buyers, commercial investors are making their investments completely in cash despite the record low mortgage rates. Knakal attributed the trend to global financial uncertainty and said foreigners most covet the highest-quality properties.
“They are loking at buildings in New York City as safety deposit boxes,” he said. The buildings provide an average annual return of about 4 percent to 6 percent, according to Knakal.

http://therealdeal.com/blog/2012/06/06/foreign-investment-in-nyc-commercial-properties-doubles-knakal-says-video/


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#60
June 7, 2012 10:11 AM - dibs
I heard that more money was spent in WI than on the Bush - Gore campaigns!!!!!!!!!! This will be the new stimulus package going into the November elections. You can thank hedge fund guys for their contributions, on both sides!!!!

Full disclosure, I don't contribute to political campaigns
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#61
June 7, 2012 10:12 AM - Arkady
Also the Dems did some stupid things in WI -didn't get some forms filled in time & lost a lot of voter base among other things.
#62
June 7, 2012 10:14 AM - dibs
"Also the Dems did some stupid things in WI -didn't get some forms filled in time & lost a lot of voter base among other things."

Like I said to rf yesterday, after her posting of some inane republican politicians remark, I could fill the pages with inane , stupid things that the Dems do but I just don't have the time to bother.
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#63
June 7, 2012 10:15 AM - Deleted
I'm not splitting hairs: I'm just saying the answer to the following question is "Yes"

"Ask anyone in the construction field if a large project in this town can be done with non-union labor."

Not disputing that unions contribute to the high cost of construction in NYC.
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#64
June 7, 2012 10:15 AM - Arkady
BE&K, a construction company now owned by KBR, was a big client of mine. They do major work for U.S. Gov't & are a non-union shop.
#65
June 7, 2012 10:16 AM - dibs
I came into the office today rather casual, in jeans; but still with a dress shirt, a sport jacket and a pocket square and my Panama hat. Even in retirement, one must keep up a proper appearance, right Pete.

[Shielding eyes from Pete shuffling around BoCoCa in bathrobe]
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#66
June 7, 2012 10:17 AM - dibs
New Hugo Boss jeans that Xing bought for me.
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#67
June 7, 2012 10:19 AM - Deleted
I was talking about public works for NYC and NYS, not the federal government.
#68
June 7, 2012 10:22 AM - CGar
"Shielding eyes from Pete shuffling around BoCoCa in bathrobe"

LMFAO at this image, which, no doubt, is true.
#69
June 7, 2012 10:26 AM - Deleted
Rf;

I forgot to respond to your earlier post: thanks for the links. I'm going to contact them today.

Gotta run.
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#70
June 7, 2012 10:41 AM - CGar
benson, if you need someone whom you can hire to clean out your wife's aunt's house, let me know. I know someone who has worked in Brooklyn and also works in Garden City, so I am sure he will work in Queens. As I recall, his rates are reasonable.
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#71
June 7, 2012 10:56 AM - ilovestoops
Benson: devastating about your wife's aunt. Are there any other nieces/nephews who can help out?
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#72
June 7, 2012 11:03 AM - Deleted
Update regarding my wife's aunt:

I just spoke with her nephew on her side of the family. They are aware of this situation, and are working on her. She has a surviving brother who has stepped in, and is encouraging her to grant him power of attorney to straighten out the situation. They don't want to call the city at this point. As someone pointed out last night, if the city is called in, they just might raze the house, and that would kill her (loss of her house and asset). Once they get the power of attorney, they are going to contact someone to do a clean-out, and arrange for the services she needs. So, they asked that I not do anything at this point.
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#73
June 7, 2012 11:07 AM - dibs
Getting the POA is key and yes, doing it privately is the best route. If the FDNY came in, there'd be a Vacate Order
#74
June 7, 2012 11:12 AM - More4Less
moving was a pain - hate the packing & unpacking (especially when I'm the one doing it all). at least the bill was super friendly - love my Chinaman crew.
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#75
June 7, 2012 11:14 AM - Arkady
Did you get to watch the hockey, M4L?
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#76
June 7, 2012 11:22 AM - rf
Sounds good, Benson. Even if Alzheimer's isn't the problem, I am sure that the people at the Alz. Assn. can describe the situation with her rights and the rights of loving family members, and what happens if city agencies get involved. (Just in case you need to find out.)
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#77
June 7, 2012 11:26 AM - dibs
I didn't do any of the packing when they picked up in brooklyn but Xing and I did it on the Cape when it all arrived....what a pain. But I was able to get all the boxes and the packing material to the dump in two runs in a Bentley boot.
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#78
June 7, 2012 11:31 AM - More4Less
Arkady, no, didn't watch any hockey. still got a ton of boxes to unpack. but unpacking is a ton easier than packing. the previous moves were a lot less stuff involved (bachelor vs wife & kid now; gave/threw away stuff). that's the motivation to be "minimalist" mode - so I have less shit to deal with for the next move. Now, I need salvation army to come by to pick up the bags of toys, clothing, sofa, etc for donation
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#79
June 7, 2012 11:33 AM - Slope4Eva
M4L, good luck with the new place. Why did you bring stuff you were going to get rid of?
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#80
June 7, 2012 11:38 AM - dibs
He was probably under orders from the wife!!!!
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#81
June 7, 2012 11:41 AM - Arkady
I've found it's a good rule of thumb to make decisions to toss after you've made the move - too much pressure & possible bad choices when you're packing. "Oh, hell. I don't need that." Later; "Crap! Why did I toss that!?!?"
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#82
June 7, 2012 11:42 AM - Slope4Eva
When we moved, I took charge. If only for the fact that I wanted to be soooooooooooooo organized, that everything was marked exactly where it was to go. I said, "two weeks ONLY" then everything must be put away. I think I was all unpacked and set up in more like two days. Its exciting, but certainly not fun.
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#83
June 7, 2012 11:46 AM - dibs
I still haven't found the right place to hang my Japanese erotic art prints. they may need to be rematted due to the colors that son't seem to go anywhere.
#84
June 7, 2012 11:47 AM - Slope4Eva
Good point Arkady. The house we were renting in was sold with no notice to us (I don't consider 28 days notice). So we just left everything we could not give away or didn't want. We were told to leave it empty, I said, "screw you" and we left so much, the movers loved us. We gave them a heads up as to what was up for grabs for them to take. They did take a few applicances.
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#85
June 7, 2012 11:52 AM - ilovestoops
dibs (and anyone else who can help): I'm having some stuff moved up here and the movers want to be paid in full up front. It's Allied Van Lines. Is this what you did for your move? It really makes me nervous to pay it all up front. Also, do you have a national moving company that you would recommend?
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#86
June 7, 2012 11:55 AM - Slope4Eva
I don't like the sound of that Stoops. To me, paying up front means you are giving up any recourse if there is a problem, the transaction is completed. We used a small company, so I'm not familiar with the larger organizations, but I'd def wait for more opinions. I say no.
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#87
June 7, 2012 11:57 AM - More4Less
stoops, I didn't pay the Chinaman crew until they moved my stuff into the aptmt. I gave them a modest tip which to them is more than they usually get from other Chinaman customers and they were quite happy. most of the Chinaman movers cover the east coast and some even nationally. Most of them are stationed out of Sunset Park BK
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#88
June 7, 2012 11:59 AM - Arkady
Stoops - I used Mayflower for move from DC to NYC. Got 3 estimates & liked them best. They made detailed lists of everything. Let me pack most of the stuff while they did fragile goods. The crew were very sympathetic - a traumatic move closing down a house after my mother died. I don't recall what the pay arrangement was but they were very accomodating about unloading at 2 different sites here & nothing was broken.
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#89
June 7, 2012 11:59 AM - Slope4Eva
"Paying a deposit up-front: Reputable moving companies do not ask for payment up-front to reserve trucks or dates. This is a classic red flag in moving. A reputable mover will expect payment upon delivery of your household goods to your new home."
I just skimmed,

http://www.ethicalmovers.org/blog/category/consumer-advocate-for-reputable-movers/



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#90
June 7, 2012 12:02 PM - kazootite
"they may need to be rematted due to the colors that son't seem to go anywhere"

Do you use the usually useful formula of matting to lightest color value in the print?
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#91
June 7, 2012 12:03 PM - More4Less
4Eva, I threw out / will donate / gave away a bunch of stuff but I suspect there's more to get rid off in the boxes we moved. I put in a ton of closets per the renov but they are filling up fast vs I thought I would have tons of left unused. but this makes sense as I jammed a ton of stuff into the few closets in the old pad plus I had a bunch of stuff out in the open. but I do need to get more IKEA units for books and drawers for paper/documents
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#92
June 7, 2012 12:07 PM - Slope4Eva
Closets do fill up quite fast, that's for sure. How's your son adjusting?
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#93
June 7, 2012 12:10 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Hello all from DC. The hotel is decent. "Meet and greet" with the other students in the program later this afternoon.

Benson, sorry to hear about your wife's aunt but it seems like you and the other relatives will have things in hand in the long run. The man who lives in the house my great-grandparents built in Wisconsin is also a compulsive hoarder. I really worry about that house and wish I had the money to buy it, clear everything out, and restore it (it has legit historic value, not just sentimental), but he has already transferred the property to his son.
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#94
June 7, 2012 12:12 PM - Slope4Eva
Former NFL players are suing the NFL for not being upfront about the relationship between concussion and long-term mental problems.
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#95
June 7, 2012 12:13 PM - kazootite
Benson, did you see Gazoo's post late last night about your wife's hoarder aunt? She brought up how traumatic it is to the person when things go. I have an elderly friend, extremely intelligent, but has some ADD going on (not hoarder). Her kids took it upon themselves to "organize" her things when she was gone. In the process, she could not find her address book and other small things essential to living. She nearly had a nervous breakdown. Your wife's aunt will have a system that no one else knows about and she may know where her valuable papers are, etc.

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June 7, 2012 12:24 PM - rf
My dad and stepmother live in her house. A couple of years ago my dad was really ready to move out to an apartment/senior living (they provide meals 2x/day, maintenance, entertainment, etc.) but my stepmother was terrified because her memory had started to slip and she was convinced that she had valuables hidden in the house. The whole thing was not at all an issue since her sons (one of whom has died since) were her heirs and they would have dealt with cleaning out the house. But once they get to a certain age, the problems of hoarding can be greatly compounded by the problems of memory loss. Now my stepmother sometimes forgets that my dad is her husband (they have been married since 1984) and moving would be totally disorienting to her. It's not easy getting old!
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#97
June 7, 2012 12:27 PM - More4Less
4Eva, kid is more adjusted now as the toys are here and he gets to watch the kid shows on bigger TV, fancier chair, and more kids in the bldg to play with. I'm the one who is adjusting a little as I'm missing the parking spot which I had in BK pad.
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#98
June 7, 2012 12:28 PM - Slope4Eva
That's yet another sad story, RF. What to do??? I hope you are not at odds with her son(s) as to what's best, taking into consideration your Dad as well. That can't be easy on him.
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#99
June 7, 2012 12:30 PM - rf
Her son lives in Colorado. He thinks my dad should put her in a nursing home.
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June 7, 2012 12:30 PM - Slope4Eva
I hear ya. But, if that's the worst of it, not bad.
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June 7, 2012 12:30 PM - kazootite
I better take care of my stuff now before it's too late!
June 7, 2012 12:31 PM - ilovestoops
Thanks all for the moving info but I think it's different when moving long distance. When I moved from Manhattan to Brooklyn I only had to pay a deposit up front and the rest after the move. Would still like to hear from dibs since his recent move is most similar to mine.
Arkady - will contact Mayflower - thanks for the referral.
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June 7, 2012 12:33 PM - Slope4Eva
That sounds a little cold, or, is it just how I'm interpreting it? Does your Dad even consider the idea?
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June 7, 2012 12:38 PM - rf
Yes, very cold. I don't think he likes his mother very much. I think he wants her somewhere she can stay so that if my father dies first, he doesn't have to deal with her. My dad and I have discussed it a lot and decided it would be better for them to get services at home than for them to move. But he's still trying to do it all himself.
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June 7, 2012 12:44 PM - kazootite
I am trying to keep my mom in her home. This is why I'm not in NY yet. She broke her hip and her life changed in an instant. My life changed in that instant also. I cannot imagine getting rid of all her stuff and selling her home. I don't know what is going to happen or how it will play out.
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June 7, 2012 12:45 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Interesting article on the causes of Iceland's economic collapse - privatization, concentration of power in the hands of a few, you get the picture:

http://www.eurozine.com/articles/2012-06-06-magnason-en.html
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June 7, 2012 12:45 PM - Slope4Eva
I know it happens, but, I cannot fatham not worshipping the ground your parents walk on. Yes, I'm one of the lucky ones, with the parents I've been blessed with.

OK, well at least your Dad is open to the possibility one day. He sounds like a loving husband (and father).
June 7, 2012 12:49 PM - Slope4Eva
Kazoo, sorry to hear about your mother. Is this a recent development, or, did she never quite recover? You live near her?
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June 7, 2012 1:00 PM - kazootite
Eva, it is fairly recent. Now there is another problem and I am taking her for tests. Hope the test results and new treatment (whatever that will be) make her life better. I am fortunate to have her still.
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June 7, 2012 1:02 PM - Deleted
always creepy reading about iceland's collapse.
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June 7, 2012 1:07 PM - Slope4Eva
Yes, bottom line, you still have her. I hope you have a support system, in addition to us, of course. Good luck with the new tests, wishing her well.
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June 7, 2012 1:09 PM - Slope4Eva
We're discussing our little part of the world, DH. Let's have it, you are a momma's boy, correct?
June 7, 2012 1:13 PM - kazootite
From 6's article:
http://www.eurozine.com/articles/2012-06-06-magnason-en.html

"Recent research has shown that stock markets stir up the primal urges of man – particularly those of young men. They buy stock – if it goes up a higher level of testosterone can be measured in their saliva. Researchers have found that prolonged high testosterone levels can lead to irrational or impulsive decision-making, with disastrous consequences. When entire companies are manned with young, risk-seeking males, it is a recipe for disaster..."

I want to comment here yet am speechless
...men... stock markets...
Did dibs include this factor in his graphs..



June 7, 2012 1:14 PM - kazootite
Eva, thank you.
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June 7, 2012 1:16 PM - Deleted
of course, s4e!!
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June 7, 2012 1:17 PM - rf
Eva, I have a lot of ambivalent feelings about my dad (Dr. Freud never sleeps!) and to tell the truth, I don't really like spending too much time with him. But I am all he has, so I do what I can.
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June 7, 2012 1:20 PM - Slope4Eva
DH, I meant that in a good way, of course. I always tell my daughter, the way a guy treats his mother is a good indication of how he will treat you.

Good for you RF, that makes you a bigger person.
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June 7, 2012 1:22 PM - Deleted
Kazoo-tite;

Your and (Gazoo's) advice is well taken. I've been doing the same thing with my mother-in-law. She was also developing hoarder tendencies, though not to dangerous levels. Every time I go there, I take just one junk item away, and see if it provokes a reaction. If not, I throw it away. In this way, she can slowly adjust to the de-cluttering operation. Her house is now pretty neat.
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June 7, 2012 1:30 PM - Slope4Eva
Benson, I'm going to assume you've been doing some reading up. Is hoarding a way of getting/keeping control of one's life, hoping not to let is slip away?
I have a 57 year old cousin, who has in recent years become somewhat distant from her sibling, daughters, etc. She stays very close to another cousin, however, when this other cousin goes to pick her up to go to dinner, etc., she is never invited in. Never a "do you need to use the bathroom before your ride home, etc". I said months ago, maybe she's hoarding, try to look in the window. She seems fine, although she does have some serious medical issues that are under control. I wonder??
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June 7, 2012 1:30 PM - kazootite
That's a good way to do it, Benson, it preserves her integrity. I admire you with all you do for your family. From what I have read here, it sounds as if you also help neighbors, and people in your building.
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June 7, 2012 1:31 PM - More4Less
need to get some tools for the DIY list my wife put together for me to complete. do I need to get a fancy Dewitt 18V drill set or something cheaper will suffice? so far on the list, I just need to drill in some screws for pictures, paintings, IKEA wall cabinets, etc. the rest of the DIY list is a ton of caulking, grouting and some touch up painting.
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June 7, 2012 1:32 PM - dibs
I used Movers Not Shakers here in Brooklyn to move me to the Cape. I paid when it arrived up there.

Sorry, been out shopping. Nice Latin eye candy at Home Depot
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June 7, 2012 1:34 PM - Slope4Eva
Poor M4L, lol. Does your wife make you brownies on a regular basis? I hope so. :-)
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June 7, 2012 1:39 PM - kazootite
Dibs, you missed the part about how testosterone affects the stock market.
June 7, 2012 1:41 PM - Arkady
M4L - You don't get more for less w/ power tools. Get a decent DeWalt (& buy an extra battery), you'll find it's worth it down the line.
LMAO!! So, mercurial stock market explains dibs???
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June 7, 2012 1:41 PM - dibs
Yes, but other studies show that fear is a greater foerce than greed when it comes into play.
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June 7, 2012 1:43 PM - dibs
I followed the Latin guy through Home Depot's electrical department. he had a big roll of BX cable hanging from his shoulder. it was like the beginning of a gay porn movie.

m4l, I'll take you to Home Depot
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June 7, 2012 1:45 PM - More4Less
4Eva, nope, wife doesn't make me brownies hence why I whore often here for them sweet bites
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June 7, 2012 1:50 PM - kazootite
Dibs, I am glad to hear about your fashion choices today. I thought you wore your dashing red coat every day.
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June 7, 2012 1:53 PM - Deleted
Eva;

I have not really read much on the topic. My (unscientific) observation is that it is more an issue of a loss of ability to organize one's life. Also, as Rob mentioned last night, I have noticed that children of the Depression are more subject to hoarding. They bear scars from days of scarcity.
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June 7, 2012 1:55 PM - More4Less
DIBS, one of the Chinaman movers was pretty tall and built but he was too old to meet your requirements.
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June 7, 2012 1:55 PM - dibs
Kazoo, not when I'm in the office tending to matters of the estate (or chasing beaners around the electrical dept of HD).
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June 7, 2012 1:56 PM - dibs
m4l, how old do you think Xing is?????
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June 7, 2012 2:04 PM - More4Less
DIBS, I'm not going to say Xing's age here. Key is Xing doesn't look his age vs this Chinaman (from all that hard labor) looks his age.
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June 7, 2012 2:05 PM - CGar
Ugh.
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June 7, 2012 2:09 PM - dibs
What's your problem, CGar?
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June 7, 2012 2:11 PM - dibs
The testosterone study is probably outdated by now. The lion's share of the trading is now done by "programs" initiated and executed by computers.
Edited at June 7, 2012 2:11 PM
June 7, 2012 2:13 PM - More4Less
Dave, I got rid of CGar's "cat got your tongue" via giving him a huge hard smack to his back.
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June 7, 2012 2:19 PM - dibs
He probably just needs to be slapped like in "Moonstruck"
June 7, 2012 2:23 PM - More4Less
CGar was probably sweet talking some honey and was about to "Close" then either (1) he finally notices the big ass rock on her hand or (2) she brings up how madly happy she is with her "man". the "Ugh" is for "fuck, just wasted my time chatting with this honey with no juicy outcome possible"
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June 7, 2012 2:25 PM - dibs
Or she wants to date a while before jumping in the sack.
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June 7, 2012 2:35 PM - bxgrl
benson- my dad didn't fit that category- he had no problem throwing out stuff. His thing was hating anything that was old, anything that reminded him of the poverty they lived in. What is really sad is when you see very young people with hoarding tendencies.I sometimes watch those hoarding shows and it's awful to see such a young person with a room they can't even get into. But terrified of giving up a stitch of clothing or a barbie doll or an electronic device. Even odder- some of them come from very well off families. I've wondered if it isn't coming from the same place as anorexia- control issues.
June 7, 2012 2:41 PM - CGar
^^^Says the woman who hoards cats. :-)

"But terrified of giving up . . . an electronic device"
Rather depends on the electronic device, no?

Lest you think I'm ignoring your emails, I ordered more checks for you.
Edited at June 7, 2012 2:41 PM
June 7, 2012 2:42 PM - CGar
"giving him a huge hard smack to his back"

(nh)
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June 7, 2012 2:50 PM - More4Less
CGar, that "(nh) was totally unnecessary
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June 7, 2012 3:10 PM - Deleted
anyone around for drinks this evening? freakin nice outside!
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June 7, 2012 3:12 PM - kazootite
Jean Paul Sartre said:

'Three o'clock is always too late or too early for anything you want to do.'
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June 7, 2012 3:35 PM - bxgrl
Thank you my sweet. Did you get the kind that look like antique parchment, with copperplate engraving? Or traditional blue?

Troy was exhausting. I'll email you gory details later.
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June 7, 2012 3:48 PM - dibs
Where 's the other one of the Trojan Whores????
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June 7, 2012 4:09 PM - ilovestoops
good one dibs!
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June 7, 2012 4:10 PM - Arkady
Funny, dibs!
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June 7, 2012 4:12 PM - Deleted
Are Bxgrl and MM up in Troy already?

BTW: is partridge going to open a branch of her shop up in Troy?
Edited at June 7, 2012 4:12 PM
June 7, 2012 4:13 PM - MontroseMorris
Neigh, Dave.
June 7, 2012 4:16 PM - CGar
Nice to see you, Thelma. Sing out, Louise.
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June 7, 2012 4:31 PM - lechacal
Have completely exceeded capacity for incremental thought. Home 2 am last night. Today's meetings just endings, now the workday begins. Getting diminishing returns from coffee.
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June 7, 2012 4:33 PM - dibs
Maybe you should cut your hourly billing rate in half!!!!!
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June 7, 2012 4:56 PM - CGar
An anonymous letter being circulated by a "concerned resident" proposes lowering the speed limit where the BQE passes through Brooklyn Heights, stating: “[V]ibrations [from the BQE] make it more difficult to live in the neighborhood, rent properties for higher rents and sell properties at higher prices." What drugs is this person taking that they think the BQE is in any way hindering high rents and high sales prices in the Heights???

Article on BHB:
http://brooklynheightsblog.com/archives/41803

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June 7, 2012 4:58 PM - dibs
I'm glad I'm not near the BQE here in the BH projects.
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June 7, 2012 5:15 PM - dibs
I did read the article. I assume everyone is already speeding on the BQE. Lowering the speed limit will do nothing and there's no way to enforce it on a highway like that.

Probably written by someone who doesn't drive. it's not as if anyone moving nearby didn't know it was already there!!!!!
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June 7, 2012 5:17 PM - Deleted
"Probably written by someone who doesn't drive. it's not as if anyone moving nearby didn't know it was already there!!!!!"

no, just some entitled old twat in brooklyn heights who expects cops to get out there with jetpacks so they can live in an even nicer neighborhood.
Edited at June 7, 2012 5:17 PM
June 7, 2012 5:18 PM - Deleted
did i just have a rob moment?
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June 7, 2012 5:22 PM - dibs
You've been having more and more of them lately.
Edited at June 7, 2012 5:22 PM
June 7, 2012 5:24 PM - Deleted
well, i did just start watching "that's so raven" on netflix. related?
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June 7, 2012 5:31 PM - wendybear1
"well, i did just start watching "that's so raven" on netflix. related?"
Scary.

How is everyone this evening? I'm enjoying the cool weather and hoping the rain holds out until I get home.
Edited at June 7, 2012 5:31 PM
June 7, 2012 5:36 PM - dibs
Weather has been great even with the forecast threatening showers every day this week and through Saturday.
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June 7, 2012 5:48 PM - lechacal
I don't bill by the hour, dibs. I don't bill at all.
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June 7, 2012 5:48 PM - Deleted
Stuyvesant High School students have taken to the blogs bitching about their dress code. I thought these were supposed to be the smartest kids in the city? Their writing is AWFUL! Is English not part of the entrance exam?
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June 7, 2012 5:51 PM - bxgrl
Hey Wendy- hope you're doing well. We've been up in Troy, making hay while the sun shines (please refer to dibs' earlier punpost) ;)
June 7, 2012 6:01 PM - dibs
Link, dh??????
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June 7, 2012 6:05 PM - Deleted
http://gothamist.com/2012/06/07/stuy_students_protest_dress_code_wi.php

they're the retards using their full names.
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June 7, 2012 6:16 PM - dibs
That shirt on the asian guy looks very gay slutty
June 7, 2012 6:22 PM - Deleted
lol, he should hit the gym. maybe you could give him a "summer internship"
Edited at June 7, 2012 6:22 PM
June 7, 2012 6:25 PM - dibs
Yes, only people in great shape should be seen in those shirts or in wifebeaters.
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June 7, 2012 6:28 PM - Arkady
To judge by the traffic reports on Newsradio 88, anyone who can speed on the BQE under the Hts should get a gold medal.
June 7, 2012 6:32 PM - Deleted
I think all transport in brooklyn heights should be by horse and carriage.
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June 7, 2012 6:33 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
wow. every news van is outside the cat clinic on 5th avenue right now. about an hour ago the giant facade metal gate and structure fell down and hit a nanny in the head and the baby in the leg who were rushed to the hospital. cats = evil.


*rob*

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June 7, 2012 6:37 PM - Arkady
I wondered what the hovering helicopter was about - lasted about an hour.
Edited at June 7, 2012 6:37 PM
June 7, 2012 6:42 PM - kazootite
"the giant facade metal gate and structure fell down and hit a nanny"

Nanny gate. I hope they are not seriously hurt.
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June 7, 2012 6:49 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
lol @ nannygate. (i hope they arent hurt either). I overheard some people claiming the owner of the building is a total slumbord, but he was talking to someone who works in the dentist office up the block so not sure if it was about the cat clinic owner or the dentists office.
*rob*

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June 7, 2012 6:50 PM - dibs
I prefer a sedan chair, dh
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June 7, 2012 6:51 PM - Arkady
The building next door is very poorly done if it's the same owner - really cheap construction & materials.
June 7, 2012 6:51 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Might sound awful, but when I walked up the block saw all the news people and all the police tape, i was kinda sorta hoping it was something a more little insiduous that would perhaps make the rents go down in this neighborhood. people the word should be spread tho that buildings in park slope are mega dangerous and will put your nannies and children in danger if you move here!

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June 7, 2012 6:54 PM - dibs
The founder of EJ Korvette died.

It did not stand for "Eight Jewish Korean War vets"
Edited at June 7, 2012 6:54 PM
June 7, 2012 6:55 PM - rf
According to NY1, it was not a nanny but a mother and her kid.

A mother and child were hospitalized after they were struck by falling debris in Park Slope, Brooklyn today.
Fire officials say the parent and child were struck by either a falling gate or awning at Fifth Avenue and President Street after 4 p.m.

The mother is in serious condition with a head injury and her child suffered a leg injury and was also hospitalized.
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June 7, 2012 7:00 PM - dibs
We're spending $800,000 per year on EACH Guantanamo detainee. I thought Obama pledged to close Guantanamo. isn't it funny how we were all lured in by him!!!!!
Edited at June 7, 2012 7:00 PM
June 7, 2012 7:01 PM - Deleted
he's doing a good job of killing any potential prisoners now though.
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June 7, 2012 7:07 PM - dibs
I suspect that would be happening no matter who was president. Teh intelligence on these things doesn't emanate from the White House
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June 7, 2012 7:08 PM - dibs
Alex Trebeck just confused food trucks with truckstops!!!!!!!!!!
June 7, 2012 7:11 PM - More4Less
Dave, a president gets blamed for stuff he shouldn't be blamed for hence he should get credit for stuff he shouldn't get credit for - ie Obama gets credit for all those terrorist capture/killing
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June 7, 2012 7:12 PM - Deleted
"I suspect that would be happening no matter who was president. Teh intelligence on these things doesn't emanate from the White House"

so the "commander in chief" has nothing to do with the military, but has complete control over the economy?
June 7, 2012 7:14 PM - dibs
The intelligence that led to finding them came from the field.
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June 7, 2012 7:15 PM - rf
A piece of a dock from Japan that broke off during the tsunami washed up in Oregon.
June 7, 2012 7:15 PM - More4Less
DH, if & when Romney is president, he'll get credit for all these terrorist capture/killing and won't get any blame for the econ being in the toilet
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June 7, 2012 7:18 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Alex Trebeck just confused food trucks with truckstops!!!!!!!!!!

lol. are you sure? food trucks and truck stops are both bastions of white trash culture, albeait of different economic classes.

*rob*

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June 7, 2012 7:19 PM - More4Less
Dave, I'm taking notes on these lines, line of thinking, high expectations, etc so I can refer to them if & when a Repub is president and see how he/she stacks up
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June 7, 2012 7:19 PM - Deleted
yes dibs, we know obama didn't personally go and find out all the intelligence himself.


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June 7, 2012 7:22 PM - Deleted
"Dave, I'm taking notes on these lines, line of thinking, high expectations, etc so I can refer to them if & when a Repub is president and see how he/she stacks up"

yeah, let me sum it up for you.

if guy you don't like does something good you respond:
- bah, he doesn't really have anything to do with that
or
- it was really the hard work of ________ (insert name of previous guy you actually liked) that paid off

if guy you don't like does something you don't like:
- off with his head!!
June 7, 2012 7:23 PM - dibs
News on Ch 7 tonight will have footage of the Park Slope Gate crash
June 7, 2012 7:24 PM - bxgrl
Well, DH- they still have credited Bush with starting an unnecessary war either ;)
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June 7, 2012 7:25 PM - dibs
That was last night's news, rf. What they are reporting today is all the flora attached to it that isn't native to Oregon
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June 7, 2012 7:31 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
I wonder if one of those scrubby people who go around trying to get metal stuff was up this causing the gate to fall down? i wouldnt be shocked, they are SO annoying especially when you see a great piece of electronics or something and the metal is all gutted!

*rob*

June 7, 2012 7:31 PM - CGar
Former Fleetwood Mac guitarist and vocalist Bob Welch killed himself. 65. Self-inflicted gunshot wound.
Edited at June 7, 2012 7:31 PM
June 7, 2012 7:34 PM - Arkady
Maybe it's a mistake & they're going to report on a piece of my trellis that fell down.
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June 7, 2012 7:34 PM - Deleted
haha rob, that's what the heroin addicts in the show "The Wire" do to get money for their daily fix, steal random metal.

the wire - good freakin show btw.

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June 7, 2012 7:40 PM - Not_Logged_In
Return of You Know Who: You know what's hilarious?
This Fucking Retard (Yes off my Meds) spewed some Bullshit and no one called him out on it???
Not one single person, zero, nada! I realize this place is a fucking "Retard Group Camp".
Well there's only one thing left...

The What
Someday this war is gonna end..
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June 7, 2012 7:45 PM - dibs
Who bailed you out????
Edited at June 7, 2012 7:45 PM
June 7, 2012 7:49 PM - Deleted
wtf is he talking about?
June 7, 2012 7:49 PM - BoerumHillScott
Been running around for the last couple of hours getting supplies for my son's birthday party on Saturday.
It will be a lot of fun, but it's a lot of shopping.
Edited at June 7, 2012 7:49 PM
June 7, 2012 7:49 PM - dibs
Like he said, he's off his meds.
Edited at June 7, 2012 7:49 PM
June 7, 2012 7:52 PM - dibs
Maybe he wants to discuss my AM market advice.
Edited at June 7, 2012 7:52 PM
June 7, 2012 7:55 PM - BoerumHillScott
For people who like maps and racial demographics, here is a pretty cool site comparing racial pluralities from 2000 to 2010

http://www.urbanresearchmaps.org/comparinator/pluralitymap.htm

My initial take is that NYC neighborhoods have gotten less racially homogenous, with some exceptions in Asian neighborhoods.
Edited at June 7, 2012 7:56 PM
June 7, 2012 7:56 PM - Deleted
SDFL - pretty sure everyone just saw some charts and didn't bother reading.
Edited at June 7, 2012 7:55 PM
June 7, 2012 7:56 PM - Deleted
update on the slope gate is that the woman has a "serious head injury" and is in crit condition
June 7, 2012 7:59 PM - dibs
Where are all these intelligent things that rob supposedly posts in the OT After Dark???????
June 7, 2012 8:00 PM - Deleted
that map is awesome BHS!
June 7, 2012 8:01 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Havent seen the wire, but want to. Maybe will download some of the episodes. Today a client in LA who works in the film industry said she wants to take me out to lunch when I get to california. lol. she then talked my ear off for an HOUR about california. She said LA and San Diego are not that far apart, but that I should spend a few days in LA and that i'd like it WAY more than San Diego. She started rattling off names of hotels I could stay at, places to visit, blah blah blah. After the entire LA conversation she then said she forgot what she originally called for. Everyone else that works with her kinda thinks she's cuckoo in the head, but I kinda like. So I think im going to book a hotel for a day or two in LA, I'll be near LA in the OC for half the trip anyway cuz of the wedding, so why not? Bad idea? good idea? Good way to network perhaps? I'd love to get two cities under the belt on this trip anyway. Also spending 10 days with my friend in a row like that might do some serious damage to our friendship. I can't be around people for such an extended period of time, no matter who it is. It would be a good way to break up the trip and experience california in a greater way, no?

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 8:01 PM
June 7, 2012 8:02 PM - Deleted
wow, fort greene/clinton hill is probably the most drastic difference.
Edited at June 7, 2012 8:02 PM
June 7, 2012 8:02 PM - BoerumHillScott
If you want to see an interesting racial distribution in clear sectors spreading out from the city center, check out Houston.
Edited at June 7, 2012 8:02 PM
June 7, 2012 8:02 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
LOL DIBS, I just posted one, and people are nuts to think I post anything intelligent after dark (btw it's not dark yet). I do think the more intelligent and engaging posters come out after dark though and the conversation is much better.

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 8:02 PM
June 7, 2012 8:03 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
oh GOOD brb. I've been holding my poop in since 9am this morning (i completely forgot to go before I left the house this morning) and my roommate just went out so I can go now.

*rob*

June 7, 2012 8:04 PM - Deleted
it's scary accurate too.
Edited at June 7, 2012 8:04 PM
June 7, 2012 8:08 PM - dibs
Watching "Waithing For Guffman." on Ovation...seems pretty funny so far
Edited at June 7, 2012 8:08 PM
June 7, 2012 8:14 PM - BoerumHillScott
I've seen "Waiting for Guffman" a couple of times and enjoyed it.
"Best in Show," with more or less the same cast was even better.
I've seen two other more recent ones that were not that good.
Edited at June 7, 2012 8:14 PM
June 7, 2012 8:16 PM - CGar
dave, what are you still doing in the OT??? Where's Xing?
June 7, 2012 8:17 PM - CGar
Scott, is there a theme to your son's birthday party? I hope you didn't buy any of those scary rubber things that people fill with air???
Edited at June 7, 2012 8:17 PM
June 7, 2012 8:22 PM - dibs
He's here next to me. We're upstairs in my room.
June 7, 2012 8:23 PM - dibs
Will you hire a clown, Scott????
Edited at June 7, 2012 8:23 PM
June 7, 2012 8:24 PM - BoerumHillScott
No theme just year, just a lot of food and drink at the patio of my building.
When he was younger we would do themes, but we never did anything outrageous or even rented inflatable stuff.
Edited at June 7, 2012 8:24 PM
June 7, 2012 8:25 PM - BoerumHillScott
I am probably a bad parent, because I have never hired clowns, pirates, magicians, storytellers, or Jedi warriors, all of which I have seen at parties he attended.
June 7, 2012 8:25 PM - CGar
You're an insane person, lol.
Edited at June 7, 2012 8:25 PM
June 7, 2012 8:27 PM - CGar
Not at all, Scott. There's no reason to do an over-the-top party just because you live in New York! My friends all do low-key parties for their kids, and the kids have a great time. Put me in a room with a bunch of Lego, and I'm good to go.
Edited at June 7, 2012 8:27 PM
June 7, 2012 8:31 PM - Slope4Eva
I agree Scott. I don't think we've ever even considered any of that stuff. Not necessary.
Edited at June 7, 2012 8:31 PM
June 7, 2012 8:33 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
My grandparents hired a stripper in a gorilla costume to come to our apartment on my uncle's birthday one year :-/ I got to watch some of the performance but then me and my friend were told to go outside and play.
It may have been his girlfriend's idea at the time though.
*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 8:33 PM
June 7, 2012 8:35 PM - dibs
I've been to a few theme parties in Bangkok.
Edited at June 7, 2012 8:35 PM
June 7, 2012 8:35 PM - BoerumHillScott
Los Angeles had some pretty over the top parties too, although mostly at people's houses.
We were lucky that we had a pool at our condo complex and the parties were in June, so a few decorations and lots of food and drink were all that were needed to keep the kids and adults happy.

We did have a few uppity parents from his school look down on us, but they were not the type I really care about impressing anyway.
June 7, 2012 8:36 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
There's no reason to do an over-the-top party just because you live in New York!

What a completely snobby and elitist viewpoint. Trust me, many parents in this city have over top stupid retarded parties for their kids. Of course tho, most parents (yuppie types anyway) turn their kids' parties into it being more about themselves than their kids. So yeah, I can see how you might see a dearth of inflatable castles, clowns, and magicians, but that's because upper middle class and upper class white families in city turn the party into all about them.

Edited at June 7, 2012 8:36 PM
June 7, 2012 8:39 PM - Slope4Eva
Rob, that's the point.
Edited at June 7, 2012 8:39 PM
June 7, 2012 8:43 PM - Slope4Eva
I almost rented one of those circular bicycles made for 6 one year, but I was afraid my daughter and/or friends would be embarrased and it would just be a waste of money.
Edited at June 7, 2012 8:42 PM
June 7, 2012 8:44 PM - BoerumHillScott
Typical scene from one of his California parties
Edited at June 7, 2012 8:44 PM
June 7, 2012 8:50 PM - BoerumHillScott
And last year here
Edited at June 7, 2012 8:50 PM
June 7, 2012 8:51 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I almost rented one of those circular bicycles made for 6 one year, but I was afraid my daughter and/or friends would be embarrased and it would just be a waste of money.

The "emerging adults" in this city don't seem to think so.


*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 8:51 PM
June 7, 2012 8:54 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
look like fun normal parties, scotts, but but there are more adults than kids. i HATED birthday parties that had adults at them when I was a kid!!!
I had birthday parties at home. One year had it in a mcdonalds or a burger king that had a jungle gym in, but I wound up leaving and walked home (no one even noticed I had left!) because I wasn't having any fun.
I didn't enjoy socializing much as a kid.

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 8:54 PM
June 7, 2012 8:55 PM - Arkady
I did parties for my niece's kids until they turned 8. Did classic party games in line w/ whatever theme the kid had chosen. No other kids in the upscale NJ community had had those kinds of parties & invariably the little guests would leave saying it was the best party they'd ever been to &/or that it was the party they most looked forward to all year.
Edited at June 7, 2012 8:55 PM
June 7, 2012 9:00 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Where in NJ was that arkady? Did they invite the whole class? I was invited to very few birthday parties of classmates as a kid. In 4th grade I was SHOCKED to be invited to someone's birthday party once. I wound up spending the whole time hanging out with his teenage sister up in her bedroom. I think she felt bad for me because a few people at the party were calling me gay lol. Even tho I really don't think I was that gay at the time, but I guess it's hard to hide and most people can tell. I was never invited back the next year. Most of my birthday parties were mostly family and neighbors. My grandparents threw me an 8th grade graduation party and, I swear, that was the most tragic pathetic party in the history of the Universe. Blech birthdays, I stopped celebrating them like 5 years ago. And i used to LOVE my 1/2 and 1/4 birthdays.

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 9:00 PM
June 7, 2012 9:02 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
The threw me a 12th grade graduation party too but I didn't attend it.

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 9:02 PM
June 7, 2012 9:03 PM - BoerumHillScott
I am guessing the average birthday party has a close to even mix of kids and adults.
My son and his friends have always seemed happy, and he has never asked for a more elaborate one or one with less adults in attendance.
He even invites adults he knows who do not have any kids.
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:03 PM
June 7, 2012 9:04 PM - Deleted
i only had one birthday party when i was like 3. we hired a clown and face painter, etc. we were never big on celebrating birthdays. just a family dinner out somewhere.
June 7, 2012 9:04 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Thinking back to those years now, it's so obvious my social anxiety was off the hook. I guess it still is. Thank god for alcohol.

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 9:04 PM
June 7, 2012 9:04 PM - Arkady
Ridgewood, rob.
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:04 PM
June 7, 2012 9:06 PM - Deleted
'Thinking back to those years now, it's so obvious my social anxiety was off the hook. I guess it still is. Thank god for alcohol.'

ya know, they have some pretty nifty pills for that nowadays (seriously)
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:06 PM
June 7, 2012 9:06 PM - Arkady
The parties I did were kids only. Took a lot of work but it was fun too. Other parents threw money at the celebrations - less work to just book a game facility or ball game or whatever.
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:06 PM
June 7, 2012 9:10 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
He even invites adults he knows who do not have any kids.

lol. that's cute AND creepy at the same time. I used to have to attend my ex's neices and nephews birthdays on long island. Those were basically exactly what you posted in those pictures scotts.. Pretty much pool parties, nothing fancy. Just lots of food and the pool. I would always have to somehow pretend to fall in the pool in all my clothes because I never wanted to take my shirt off in public. It worked the first few times, but then people started calling me out on it so I stopped being able to use the pools at those parties and wound up having to socialize with the adults and the parties were just awful after that for me. I actually did have a lot of fun playing with the kids at those parties more than socializing with the adults. I got into a fight (verbal) with an actual retarded girl at one of those parties because she wouldn't let me borrow one play with one of her little handheld games I wanted to try out. It wasnt a video game, it was one of those old school handheld things with water and rings in it. "Fine! don't need your stupid game!" and then i took out my nintendo DS from my bag. Probably not one of my most proud moments.

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 9:10 PM
June 7, 2012 9:11 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
ya know, they have some pretty nifty pills for that nowadays (seriously)

fuck no. Half my student loan debt is cuz of ecstasy :-/

Edited at June 7, 2012 9:11 PM
June 7, 2012 9:13 PM - BoerumHillScott
What the hell is creepy about a kid wanting to be friends with adults?
You are seriously fucked up and getting worse by the week.

Please don't respond to my posts anymore.
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:14 PM
June 7, 2012 9:14 PM - Deleted
lol rob, not illegal ones.
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:14 PM
June 7, 2012 9:15 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Whoa Scott, back off. I also said it was kind of cute. I didn't say anything offensive.

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 9:15 PM
June 7, 2012 9:16 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Got my Tajik visa today. It lasts eight days longer than the program. Pamir Highway roadtrip to Kyrgyzstan, God willing!
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:16 PM
June 7, 2012 9:16 PM - Deleted
still looking at that map scott posted. wow, long island is super segregated.
June 7, 2012 9:17 PM - BoerumHillScott
You called my son creepy, you asshole.
And that is not the worst of what you have been saying lately.
You have now pissed off or driven off almost every person here.
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:17 PM
June 7, 2012 9:19 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
And I'm sorry, but I stand behind what I said. I think adult / child friendships are a little creepy.

*rob*

June 7, 2012 9:19 PM - Deleted
oh boy, i'm outta here. ta ta!!
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:19 PM
June 7, 2012 9:20 PM - CGar
"Got my Tajik visa today. It lasts eight days longer than the program. Pamir Highway roadtrip to Kyrgyzstan, God willing!"

Am I the only one who thinks Six Years' Excellent Adventure is going to end with all of us being interviewed by Dateline as we hold a "Six Years Ransom Collection" gathering at Montero's?
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:20 PM
June 7, 2012 9:21 PM - BoerumHillScott
Please stop projecting your totally fucked up world view on my child.


June 7, 2012 9:21 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
I didn't "drive" anyone off. I merely defending myself against what were essentially nagging internet bullies who repeatedly played the victim card. And if it's such a big issue create a new board and don't tell me about it! problem solved!



*rob*

June 7, 2012 9:22 PM - CGar
^^^And we're going to have to tie yellow ribbons around street lamps until he's released from captivity. I just know his roadtrip to Kyrgyzstan is giong end up with a detour to Teheran.
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:22 PM
June 7, 2012 9:26 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Haha CGar! I've already been to Tehran, no need for another detour.

Scott, that map is amazing. I appreciate your work keeping up this site and putting up with all the rest of us.
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:26 PM
June 7, 2012 9:30 PM - BoerumHillScott
Long Island seems integrated compared to CT and NJ excepting a line from Jersey City to Trenton.
If you want to see segregated and becoming more so, check out Atlanta.
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:30 PM
June 7, 2012 9:31 PM - BoerumHillScott
DC is interesting with almost perfectly straight north-to-south line dividing the city and extending into Maryland.
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:31 PM
June 7, 2012 9:33 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
If you want to see segregated and becoming more so, check out Atlanta.

Also check out Brooklyn!

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 9:33 PM
June 7, 2012 9:34 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Actually, Rob, the map shows the opposite for many neighborhoods.
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:34 PM
June 7, 2012 9:37 PM - Deleted
rob, when white people move into neighborhoods that were previously 90 - 100% black/hispanic/asian, they get MORE diverse.
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:37 PM
June 7, 2012 9:38 PM - Deleted
wow, atlanta is nuts
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:38 PM
June 7, 2012 9:39 PM - Slope4Eva
Six, how was the meet and greet? Any interesting companions for your trip?
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:39 PM
June 7, 2012 9:39 PM - BoerumHillScott
Yep, almost every single neighborhood in NYC became more racially diverse, from the Upper East Side to Brooklyn Heights to Bed-Stuy.

One surprising thing I noticed was small Asian concentrations that seem to follow the N and Q/B lines, and to a lesser extent the southern end of the D. I guess those lines provide convenient access to Chinatown.

June 7, 2012 9:41 PM - BoerumHillScott
Atlanta shows that White Flight is alive and well.
I lived in Birmingham for 10 years and saw the changes there during that time period.
It is worded differently now, but I think that for most people the root feelings are the same.
June 7, 2012 9:42 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
that's because have rent laws and stuff, and projects that KEEP some neighborhoods from becoming totally segregated. I find most people who move to nyc these days, especially brooklyn are totally barfy closeted racists. They claim to want diversity (which is total bullshit). They just want diversity of restaurants. An ethiopian restaurant on your block? KEWL! an ethiopian in your precious child's class? not-so-cool. It's exactly what the what is referring to when he talks about covert racism. The people coming back to the city these days are the children and grandchildren of the retards who were part of the whole white flight thing. You think they aren't coming back with their racist and classist ways? They might talk a nice talk, but they sure as hell don't walk the walk.

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 9:42 PM
June 7, 2012 9:43 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Eva, so far so good. All seem like interesting people. One Marine translator. One UCLA grad student, and some highly motivated undergrads. One from the Upper Peninsula has been out of the USA for one week total. I look forward to seeing how she copes!!
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:43 PM
June 7, 2012 9:46 PM - Deleted
would be cool if there was a way to see a similar map that shows increases/decreases in population by block (as an overlay or separate map) some of the blocks in williamsburg show dramatic shifts from hispanic to white, but if you click and get the breakdown, it's just a result of increased density (new condo built where small 3 family was before)
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:46 PM
June 7, 2012 9:47 PM - Slope4Eva
That's a good first impression. Sounds so exciting.
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:47 PM
June 7, 2012 9:47 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
rob, when white people move into neighborhoods that were previously 90 - 100% black/hispanic/asian, they get MORE diverse.

No they just get more corny. And I don't give a crap about diversity anyway. It's a forced politically correct concept. I went to a VERY diverse (a REAL diverse school, not fake diverse with a few tokens) and it never even crossed my mind growing up I was enmeshed in diversity. People these days fetish it on the outside, but you can tell by their actions they want nothing more to do than surround themselves with people who look and act just like them. If I cared about diversity i'd move out of park slope. But I personally don't give a crap. I live in places that at the time suit my needs. Could I do with a lot less moonface joints around here, less Molly's and more Mo'eeshas? totally! Do I really care? hells no.

*rob*



June 7, 2012 9:47 PM - BoerumHillScott
Most white blocks have became less white from 2000 to 2010.
There is plenty of racism in New York, but the individual blocks and neighborhood areas are becoming more diverse.
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:47 PM
June 7, 2012 9:50 PM - sixyearsandcounting
I once had a conversation at Sycamore with an African-American hipster named Odysseus. He kept saying that Ditmas Park wasn't as diverse as Williamsburg, and he used "diverse" over and over to describe Williamsburg. I couldn't figure out what on earth he was talking about until it dawned on me that in his mind, diverse = hipsters.
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:50 PM
June 7, 2012 9:50 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Also, I consider park slope kinda diverse tho. It's just that the media (all forms) pretty much ONLY focus on stuff white people like (and more times than not, those are the kinds of things I don't really enjoy all that much)

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 9:50 PM
June 7, 2012 9:53 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Lots of DC douchebags at the hotel bar. Time to turn in.
Edited at June 7, 2012 9:53 PM
June 7, 2012 9:54 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I once had a conversation at Sycamore with an African-American hipster named Odysseus.

lol. that was The What! hahahaha

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 9:54 PM
June 7, 2012 10:00 PM - Deleted
williamsburg is still largely hispanic and hasidic. the part that gets all the blog chatter covers probably 20% of the entire neighborhood.
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:00 PM
June 7, 2012 10:01 PM - Deleted
well, in 2010 at least
June 7, 2012 10:06 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Maybe there's a bizarro internet out there where all the hisids and hispanics are blogging about williamsburg. why is that moonfaces can't do ANYTHING without making a big production out of it? Im curious what that stems from. When there are more people videotaping an event and blogging about it then attendees you HAVE to kinda wonder.

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 10:06 PM
June 7, 2012 10:07 PM - Arkady
Ours was the only white family on the block I grew up on in DC. My block here has many blacks - some who bought in the early 50s & some w/in the last few years. The white people who've moved in in the last 8 or 10 years mainly churn the same half dozen buildings although there are quite a few who moved here shortly before or after I did & have stayed.
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:07 PM
June 7, 2012 10:07 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
I just said "videotaping". DAMN, im old lol

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 10:07 PM
June 7, 2012 10:09 PM - Slope4Eva
Not to worry Rob, we were discussing "albums" the other day.
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:09 PM
June 7, 2012 10:12 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
My block here has many blacks - some who bought in the early 50s & some w/in the last few years.

hmm.. Black people bought houses in that area of park slope in the last few years? I'm calling baloney on that. I mean yeah DUH black people with money can buy in that area if they want, thank god we are kinda over that shit, but I just don't see that. Wealthy black people (and lets face it you NEED to be mad wealthy to buy in that area of park slope, or park slope in general) are not moving into those kinds of neighborhoods. They are mostly moving to the suburbs. And before you accuse me of pulling things out of my ass, just google it. Thousands of articles written about the phenomenon. But if you are telling the truth, please tell Denise she was my favorite Huxtible.


*rob*

June 7, 2012 10:13 PM - BoerumHillScott
Where I grew up in Baton Rouge, I think it was 100% white for a 1/2 mile radius in all directions.
I would not be shocked if there was not a single Black, Asian, Hispanic, or even immigrant family in that zone.
Beyond that, there were some "black neighborhoods" nearby, but everyone knew where they were and made sure they did not drive through them after dark.
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:13 PM
June 7, 2012 10:15 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
I think "album" is still fine to say for a comprehensive collection of songs from an artist. Albums come in all kinds of formats, and things that don't even involve music. I think "videotape" is way more of an anachronism. It wasn't until recently where when I was referring to recording something on the DVR I would say im taping such and such show.

*rob*

June 7, 2012 10:16 PM - Partridge
At the DMV in Coney Island, a diversity of baseball caps was evident.
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:16 PM
June 7, 2012 10:17 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Also, Scott, I am sorry for my "creepy" comment earlier. I didn't call your son creepy. Sorry if it sounded like that. I was just talking about adult/child friendships. Like if an adult tried to become friends with a child I would call it creepy, so a child trying to become friends with an adult I called creepy too, but I *can* see how in that way, it's not really creepy, it's just innocent.


*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 10:17 PM
June 7, 2012 10:18 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
That is some WACK ass DMV. If you want to go to a really good DMV that is relatively quick (if you are just doing ID or license renewals) go to the one in lower manhattan in the morning. Was in and out of there in like 15 minutes when I got my last one renewed. They also play great music!

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 10:18 PM
June 7, 2012 10:19 PM - BoerumHillScott
My 4 year old building has a number of Black families who paid $700 - $800K or so to live here, along with east Asians, south Asians, and a slight majority of whites.

Edited at June 7, 2012 10:19 PM
June 7, 2012 10:20 PM - Slope4Eva
I still say taping, or, recording. DVR'g doesn't roll off the tongue easily.

Hi, Partridge. I always thought that DMV was a pleasure to go to, relatively speaking of course. My Dad wears his baseball caps all the time (to avoid the sun).
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:20 PM
June 7, 2012 10:20 PM - BoerumHillScott
My landlady did the ultimate suburban move. She is a Black woman born in Brooklyn who bought a new condo here after her kids where grown, then decided to move to Athens, Georgia.
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:20 PM
June 7, 2012 10:21 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
My 4 year old building has a number of Black families who paid $700 - $800K or so to live here, along with east Asians, south Asians, and a slight majority of whites.

But that's downtown brooklyn, and under a mil, and close to many high profile public sector jobs.... It's not the bourgeious hill section of park slope.

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 10:21 PM
June 7, 2012 10:22 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
My 4 year old building has a number of Black families who paid $700 - $800K or so to live here, along with east Asians, south Asians, and a slight majority of whites.

But that's downtown brooklyn, and under a mil, and close to many high profile public sector jobs.... It's not the bourgeious hill section of park slope.

*rob*

June 7, 2012 10:22 PM - Partridge
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free...
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:22 PM
June 7, 2012 10:23 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Also that is anecdotal examples, which doesnt mean anything. PLUS it's new construction. It doesn't change overall demographic trends.

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 10:22 PM
June 7, 2012 10:24 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!! PARTRIDGE! WTF!?!??????? do ALL DMV use church pews for seating!?? I was sitting down waiting for my number to pop up and wondering my ass was burning and then I realized I was sitting on a fucking church pew and nearly fainted!

*rob*

June 7, 2012 10:26 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
the DMV in downtown manhattan has the SAME seating! I was two seconds away to taking my key out to carve my name into the bench but then my number came up. that's so funny ahhaha. the seats seemed really out of place.


*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 10:26 PM
June 7, 2012 10:26 PM - BoerumHillScott
I appreciate the apology Rob.

This will probably piss you off, but I really hope you make some changes.
You used to be fun to have discussions with because of your wit and pretty unique world view, but in the last few months there really has been a sharp change for the worse.
At first I wondered if I was just being to sensitive due to all the shit I have been through over the last 5 months, but many other people have also seen it.

Again, thanks.
June 7, 2012 10:30 PM - Partridge
Hey Eva. Still not bad there. Civilized compared to the old days. And no bullet proof glass!

Yes, pews, just Like benches. Very church like the way they are all arranged. We all wait facing the employees with their eye charts, cash drawers, computer and magic printers.
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:30 PM
June 7, 2012 10:31 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
You used to be fun to have discussions with because of your wit and pretty unique world view, but in the last few months there really has been a sharp change for the worse.
At first I wondered if I was just being to sensitive due to all the shit I have been through over the last 5 months, but many other people have also seen it.

Well I've been pretty mellow lately. I can say the same about others. Also, you don't prick and prod a feral animal without it flashing it's teeth, and that has happened quite a bit to me lately. In internet speak there was a lot of dogpiling going on due to the insecurities of a lot of people, and the first thing people (and animals) do is to pick on those they perceive as weak. Except, that I'm far from weak. I've been defending myself on the internet from classic examples of such behavior since I was 14. Sorry if there were any casualities because of that, but I was never really taught to fight back as a kid, I had to learn how to fight back on the internet.

Edited at June 7, 2012 10:31 PM
June 7, 2012 10:32 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
We all wait facing the employees with their eye charts, cash drawers, computer and magic printers.

Not to mention their cell phones, nails, and AMAZING weaves. I <3 the ladies at the DMV downtown.

*rob*
June 7, 2012 10:34 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Honestly, If I was straight, i'd be cruising for dates down at the DMV.
But since I'm gay, and gay people bore me to tears, I sit home on the internet lol.

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 10:34 PM
June 7, 2012 10:34 PM - Partridge
And then a drive by past all the fun...
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June 7, 2012 10:42 PM - Deleted
got lease renewal (already?) no increase! polish landlords rule.
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:42 PM
June 7, 2012 10:44 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Is that Luna Park? I went there the summer before last as a little staycation. Fun park, great rides, a tad more great adventurey than old school carnival, but okay Prices were a tad high, and I noticed that the people collecting tickets let a TON of people on for free (but whatever, that's the perk in those kinds of jobs I guess) but not others. I was really mad I went down there on a monday morning / afternoon after a long hot weekend (took the day off from work specifically to go to the beach on coney island) and it beach was the grossest thing EVER. I never saw so much garbage strewn about and the water seemed really dirty either. The times I went to coney island before that it wasn't that bad, so I probably did go at a bad time. I might go on Saturday to avoid the 5th avenue gay pride parade. I don't think one's sexuality is something to be celebrated or prided of. I believe in equal rights for everyone, but I don't find my homosexuality something to go around parading or being proud of exactly (not to mention acting like a fool, and celebrating the the most base behaviors as most people in almost EVERY kind of parade does). Why does brooklyn need it's own gay pride parade btw? What's wrong with the giant one in the village? Not even sure why the hell there's a parade to begin with celebrating where someone enjoys to stick their penis or do with their butthole or vagina. Gross to me! BEYOND puerile and jejune, but let the gays have thier fun, I'll be on the Wonder Wheel and getting into conversations in line with cute hoodrats.





*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 10:43 PM
June 7, 2012 10:45 PM - BoerumHillScott
Awesome DH.

I just signed a lease with my tenants in Los Angeles with no increase, and was very happy about it.
I have another 10+ months as a renter here.
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June 7, 2012 10:45 PM - Deleted
oh man, raw data from that map is available in excel format. i'm gonna make me some pivot tables. holla.
June 7, 2012 10:45 PM - Partridge
Just say:
Dzi?kuj? - thank you (Jen KOO yeh)
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:45 PM
June 7, 2012 10:46 PM - Deleted
scott - you thinkin of making a switch once the 10 months are up?
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:46 PM
June 7, 2012 10:46 PM - BoerumHillScott
I have wasted more than one day playing with raw census data in excel.
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:46 PM
June 7, 2012 10:47 PM - Deleted
haha partridge. i knew that one! and dzien dobry = good day!!
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:47 PM
June 7, 2012 10:47 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
got lease renewal (already?) no increase! polish landlords rule.

wow. AWESOME!!!!!!! How the hell did you dodge that bullet? You must have already going in having just moved in last year with some already pretty high rent, or market rate, to begin with, I assume? Probably best to keep a tenant happy in that situation. I was shocked at our rent increase that it wasn't nearly as high as we thought and that other people got slapped with. I think the super likes us (we tip very well) and this building seems to favor dogs over babies and children, so maybe that was a big help.

*rob*

June 7, 2012 10:49 PM - BoerumHillScott
Regarding my lease renewal in 10 months, I need to see how the finances work out with being a single father and with the new job.
My gut feeling is that if the rent goes up any I'm into a walk-up, but if it stays the same then I will stay.

I really like my building and location.

The location of the middle school my son ends up in will also play a role.
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:49 PM
June 7, 2012 10:51 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
polish landlords rule.

::insert polish joke here:: Totally making it a point to find a polish landlord the next time I move. Polish people are totally known to be really dumb. Not dumb as in IQ, but like Rose on Golden Girls dumb. If Rose was a landlord I bet she wouldn't increase rent either. She'd feel bad and then talk about her parents house on the farm back in St. Olaf getting foreclosed upon or something blah blah blah. Oh lol, did you ever see the first episode of the Golden Girls!? rose had no where to live and she had to find a roommate situation and found a want ad at the supermarket hahahaha. It's my roommate and his boyfriend's FAVORITE show. They probably call me Rose behind my back.





Edited at June 7, 2012 10:51 PM
June 7, 2012 10:52 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
polish landlords rule.

::insert polish joke here:: Totally making it a point to find a polish landlord the next time I move. Polish people are totally known to be really dumb. Not dumb as in IQ, but like Rose on Golden Girls dumb. If Rose was a landlord I bet she wouldn't increase rent either. She'd feel bad and then talk about her parents house on the farm back in St. Olaf getting foreclosed upon or something blah blah blah. Oh lol, did you ever see the first episode of the Golden Girls!? rose had no where to live and she had to find a roommate situation and found a want ad at the supermarket hahahaha. It's my roommate and his boyfriend's FAVORITE show. They probably call me Rose behind my back.





June 7, 2012 10:52 PM - Partridge
All the words necessary.
Pierogi
Kielbasa
Babka
Kapusta
golumpki

You are done now.
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:52 PM
June 7, 2012 10:56 PM - Partridge
Rose Nylund was Swedish, but dumb as a Pollack.
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:56 PM
June 7, 2012 10:56 PM - Slope4Eva
And, The Polish Prince, Bobby Vinton.
June 7, 2012 10:56 PM - BoerumHillScott
Good night all.
I have an 8:00 meeting at my office in Jersey City tomorrow morning, which means that I am already past my appropriate bedtime.
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:56 PM
June 7, 2012 10:57 PM - Partridge
And, The Polish Prince, Bobby Vinton.

What a horror!
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:57 PM
June 7, 2012 10:58 PM - Partridge
Good night, Scott.
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:58 PM
June 7, 2012 10:58 PM - Slope4Eva
Goodnight, Scott. Happy Birthday to your son Saturday!!
Edited at June 7, 2012 10:58 PM
June 7, 2012 10:58 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
I HATE Dealing with the people from Poland Spring (the water company) they are the worst. Last summer they changed their caps on the water bottles to these really thin ones, that when you put them to line up in the crates in the office, the caps would leak water!! they denied the problem non stop but I kept making them come and replace them, and they did (MULTIPLE TIMES!), but they would replace them with more bottles that had leaky caps! They eventually went back to their old caps (which yes, use more plastic and bad for the environment) but so stupid. They probably did more bad to the environment making the new molds, having people return them over and over and over, and all the time on the phone with people at the company! They really were polish about the entire thing, this went on for MONTHS btw, caused me SO much work-related stress.

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 10:58 PM
June 7, 2012 10:59 PM - Deleted
rob - the apartment is rent stabilized and i'm pretty sure the last tenant here was paying something closer to 1,000 a month. he actually could have legally raised the rent by 80 bucks, but from what the rental broker said when she was showing the place - the landlord HATES having to find new tenants. so when he gets a good one, he keeps the rent the same hoping they'll stay a while.
i was randomly surfing the internet the other day and found an old listing for an apartment in this bldg a few floors below (same exact apt/reno) and they're paying like 300 bucks less a month. i think the landlord is just kinda oblivious to what rents have done over the past 2-3 years (he lives in jersey). god bless him!


Edited at June 7, 2012 10:59 PM
June 7, 2012 10:59 PM - Slope4Eva
WHAT????? A horror????? OMG, I love him.
June 7, 2012 11:00 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Rose Nylund was Swedish, but dumb as a Pollack.


LOL, i was just trying to think what she was and thinking she wasn't actually polish, was she? (I used to watch that show as a kid and until I lived here and watched the show with my roommate, I thought St. Olaf was a country) similar to how Sophia would talk about sicily.

Edited at June 7, 2012 11:00 PM
June 7, 2012 11:00 PM - Deleted
haha partridge
June 7, 2012 11:04 PM - Slope4Eva
Rob, Golden Girls is one of the few shows from that time that still works for me. I like it. (Even though Bobby Vinton has never guest starred).
Edited at June 7, 2012 11:03 PM
June 7, 2012 11:04 PM - Partridge
Is the apt a 1 BR, DH? And it's a deal?
Edited at June 7, 2012 11:04 PM
June 7, 2012 11:06 PM - Partridge
Here Rob. You can read all about her. She is from Moonfaceville, you know?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Nylund
Edited at June 7, 2012 11:06 PM
June 7, 2012 11:08 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
so when he gets a good one, he keeps the rent the same hoping they'll stay a while.
i was randomly surfing the internet the other day and found an old listing for an apartment in this bldg a few floors below (same exact apt/reno) and they're paying like 300 bucks less a month. i think the landlord is just kinda oblivious to what rents have done over the past 2-3 years (he lives in jersey). god bless him!

People who live / grew up in Jersey are usually more sensitive to the plight of others when it comes to things like that. lol (okay totally imagining that in my head, but let's go with it for now). Well good for him, good for you, really. Keeps a good tenant situation doesnt have to worry about dealing with everything that bringing in a new tenant entails. Some landlords just want to bleed every single cent they think they can get out of someone, which is why that Brownstoner site is such a turn off when it comes to the houses/condos/rentals of the day. I mean, like YEAH duh, I KNOW everything raises in price for the most part these days, but some people really put on pom poms (owners in neighborhoods) when they see that the rental rate is going sky high. That kind of behavior is tacky. Imagine if Depends underwear was 4 dollars per pair one day and then a month later they were 9 bux a pair and you see people on the sidelines or people with stock in the company cheering that kind of price increase on. WTF!? These are also the same kinds of people who poo-poo the rising costs of healthcare. Well bitches, you can't have your cake and eat it too you know... There's always gonna be a thinner, sexier, and better cheerleading industry than you. But you got these blowhards scraming how amazing it is that fugly brownstones even in the ghetto cost a million bux but how oh how HORRIBLY expensive their viagra is. Bitch, PLEASE.
You're wife is probably screwing some trust funded intern moonface outside Roberta's on the side, and your kid's snorting ritalin at in the bathroom at that 30K a year private school bathroom anyways.

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 11:08 PM
June 7, 2012 11:11 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
She is from Moonfaceville, you know?

One doesn't become a moonface until they move somewhere and become one. Newsflash, no one is born a moonface, regardless of where they lived. Josh, Ethan, and Zoey wouldn't be moonfaces if they stayed back on the hog farm. They'd just hicks on the hogfarm. Once they move to live out their urban fantasies, that is when they become moonfaces. You know who was the original moonface? Dorothy and her fucking stupid friends from the Wizard of Oz.

*rob*



Edited at June 7, 2012 11:11 PM
June 7, 2012 11:13 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
NOT Dorthy Zspornack, btw, who was originally from Brooklyn lol. I'm talking about that hick from that old movie that old gay people love.

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 11:12 PM
June 7, 2012 11:15 PM - Deleted
Rob - here's a list of where the moonfaces are moving to! stay away!!



Neighborhood Code/Label % Change (White)
2000-2010
BK75 Bedford 633.9%
MN11 Central Harlem South 404.5%
MN03 Central Harlem North-Polo Grounds 399.2%
BK78 Bushwick South 364.4%
BK35 Stuyvesant Heights 344.7%
MN06 Manhattanville 233.5%
MN04 Hamilton Heights 231.3%
BK61 Crown Heights North 185.9%
BK77 Bushwick North 163.3%
BK69 Clinton Hill 149.3%
BK60 Prospect-Lefferts Garden-Wing 147.1%
MN34 East Harlem North 117.8%
MN25 Battery Park City-Lower Manhattan 88.8%
BK68 Fort Greene 82.6%
BK79 Ocean Hill 79.9%
BK73 North Side - South Side 74.7%

June 7, 2012 11:16 PM - Partridge
I gotta sleep now. Thursday night, Rob. What's your bedtime schedule for Thursday nights?
Edited at June 7, 2012 11:16 PM
June 7, 2012 11:16 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
oh and btw, i only just saw The Wiz not that long ago. BEST.MOVIE.EVER.
I only got to see like half of it though.

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 11:16 PM
June 7, 2012 11:18 PM - Slope4Eva
Goodnight, Partridge.
Edited at June 7, 2012 11:18 PM
June 7, 2012 11:20 PM - kazootite
Scott, Happy Birthday to your son !
Hello to you and Wendybear1 !
Scott, do you have an email for us to reach you?
Edited at June 7, 2012 11:20 PM
June 7, 2012 11:21 PM - Partridge
And one more thing.... Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz never left Kansas, therefore NOT moonface. She fell victim to a twister and was rendered unconscious and dreamed the whole trip to Oz.
Edited at June 7, 2012 11:21 PM
June 7, 2012 11:23 PM - Partridge
night, Eva. How's the little slope4 doing?
Edited at June 7, 2012 11:23 PM
June 7, 2012 11:23 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Quote:
Rob. What's your bedtime schedule for Thursday nights?

I can go to sleep anytime I please. That's one of the perks of being an adult. But tonight probably 1. I'm making dinner and eating at midnight.

quote:
Rob - here's a list of where the moonfaces are moving to! stay away!!

I have nothing against those kinds of white people moving into neighborhoods. It's their cheesy twee like they invented things that been around for 2000 years overpriced businesseses and rent jacking that annoys me. They are jackasses and make a mockery of people who came before them who put real effort into businesses. People back that didnt have websites like kickstarter where they can beg for money on the interet to start stupid businesses they never should have been able to open to begin with. That website is no different than the crusties who sit on the curb and ask for change for beer or a ticket back home, in fact I have more respect for the crusties who do that than the people who beg for financing on kickstarter.

You get around on the internet DH, did you read the millions of articles about the couple in broooooooklyn who want to open up a an "old timey DVD video rental store" are you fucking kidding me? already fetishing DVD rental stores!??? and yes, they need to raise 50K to open it up. ugh. HATE them! and i know you do as well, but youre so enamored by their culinary skills (LOL!) that you give them a pass.



*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 11:23 PM
June 7, 2012 11:25 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
And one more thing.... Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz never left Kansas, therefore NOT moonface. She fell victim to a twister and was rendered unconscious and dreamed the whole trip to Oz.

If only life REALLY could imitate art.... So perhaps all these beardos will one day wake up and suddenly be back home!? ::clicks heels:: Even the bitchy witch on the bicycle was a total moonface in witchface btw... that whole movie was all kinds of fucked up.


*rob*

June 7, 2012 11:26 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
And one more thing.... Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz never left Kansas, therefore NOT moonface. She fell victim to a twister and was rendered unconscious and dreamed the whole trip to Oz.

If only life REALLY could imitate art.... So perhaps all these beardos will one day wake up and suddenly be back home!? ::clicks heels:: Even the bitchy witch on the bicycle was a total moonface in witchface btw... that whole movie was all kinds of fucked up.
Edited at June 7, 2012 11:25 PM
June 7, 2012 11:26 PM - Slope4Eva
She's good Partridge, thanks.
Edited at June 7, 2012 11:26 PM
June 7, 2012 11:30 PM - Partridge
OK, really done now. night, night!!!
Edited at June 7, 2012 11:29 PM
June 7, 2012 11:30 PM - Partridge
"I can go to sleep anytime I please."

Ah, no, not true. You said that you increase your bedtime each day of the week. You told me that. You have a schedule, you cannot pretend now that you don't.
June 7, 2012 11:32 PM - kazootite
Good night Part and Eva. I didn't say goodnight to you because I though you were already gone. (And Rob will be up until late)
June 7, 2012 11:32 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
decrease it you mean. at least in practice anyway. On the weekends I get a GOOD 10 hours of sleep in each night. my schedule revolves around when I can cook in the kitchen as well, sometimes it's earlier than later, and then sometimes it gets so late I can't even be asked to cook. I'm going to cook tonight at 12. Get to be by 1. Alarm goes off at 7 and I hit the 30 minute snooze button, then once again at 730. Get up at 8. Newport, Coffee, Shower, Dress, then outta here at 830 on the dot. Im very regimented with this kinda shit.

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 11:32 PM
June 7, 2012 11:32 PM - Deleted
haha i read that. really stupid idea. i'm not a fan of this whole "OMG i want to open a business give me money on kickstarter"

does that shit really bother you though? who cares? you have your grocery store and your bodega, all is well.
Edited at June 7, 2012 11:32 PM
June 7, 2012 11:34 PM - Slope4Eva
Rob, what do you mean, "when I can cook in the kitchen"? Is the kitchen off limits to you until your roommate and bf eat? That's wrong.
Edited at June 7, 2012 11:34 PM
June 7, 2012 11:37 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Ah, I do remember saying "getting more sleep these days"... That was when I didn't want to post anymore at night because there were too many meanie genies around so I was trying for a bit to do that. I think im at a normal sleep schedule now. My eyes are closed by 3 - 7 and then 7-8 I enjoy that half awake half asleep snoozing kind of sleep (sorry but I always set my alarm up for an hour earlier than when I want to wake up cuz that last hour of going back to sleep is the best feeling in the world). It's like the sandman flies in the room and sprinkles crack on you or something. Sometimes on a Sunday or Monday, i'll break night and not even bother going to sleep so that on tuesdays, wednesdays, etc I can get to sleep earlier. I dont know, it all works out in the end. It's not like there's anyone on my leather sofa nagging me to turn the lights out and get into "bed", you know?


*rob*

June 7, 2012 11:40 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Rob, what do you mean, "when I can cook in the kitchen"? Is the kitchen off limits to you until your roommate and bf eat? That's wrong.


OMG, LOL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sadly a lot of my food is a tad on the ghetto side cuz it's all I can afford and they bring back food most nights from all the restaurants around here or cook and stuff (when they cook sometimes they invite me to eat with them). I just dont want to be cooking the kind of food I have to eat around them cuz I am embarrassed so I wait until they go downstairs to sleep and then I eat dinner.

And when I say "ghetto food" I don't mean eating REALLY bad stuff, im just talking regular blah shit, but I get embarrassed. I cant even eat at the table at work for lunch when I bring food in cuz I get embarrassed and self-conscious about what im eating.
*rob*

June 7, 2012 11:42 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Plus it's an open kitchen / living room situation. HATE that shit. Wish the kitchen was closed off. GRRRR> people say it's great for entertaining, cooking, socializing, but what about people like me who want to prepare meals in solitude and then just sit at the kitchen table alone and not be seen eating while people do their stuff in the living room? Honestly, HATE this kind of apartment design. Nosey ass helicopter parents probably designed it.


*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 11:42 PM
June 7, 2012 11:44 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
does that shit really bother you though? who cares? you have your grocery store and your bodega, all is well.

It sets the bar to reject legit small businesses from getting loans. It sets the bar for a lot of stupid shit. Tho maybe it is better in some way and banks should get the fuck outta the whole thing. who knows. I guess im being a hypocrite since I don't think people should get loans to buy houses and property.

*rob*

June 7, 2012 11:45 PM - Slope4Eva
Oh, OK. Rob, sweetie, please cut yourself some slack. Don't be embarrassed over something like that. Its only food, no one cares really what anyone else eats. Have a little self-esteem, and, the rest of us won't annoy you so much. You're an adult, you can eat whatever you like, its no ones business but yours.
Edited at June 7, 2012 11:45 PM
June 7, 2012 11:46 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
you have your grocery store and your bodega, all is well.

When my regular arabic bodega renovated (honestly tho, total fail lol) I got really panickey but the owners assured me all would be okay. They've actually stuck to their word. Unless the korean fauxdegas that keep raising their prices like INSANE non stop.

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 11:46 PM
June 7, 2012 11:47 PM - Slope4Eva
I hear ya Rob. If I lived alone, I'd love the open space, but yeah, I agree with you.
Edited at June 7, 2012 11:47 PM
June 7, 2012 11:48 PM - kazootite
Rob, I don't know what all the fuss is about with open design. On the RE shows, people say, oh, it is so open! I like the old-fashioned, closed-off kitchen like in the old craftsman and Victorian homes. I think open design came from cheaper design, but forget really where it came from.
Edited at June 7, 2012 11:48 PM
June 7, 2012 11:49 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Its only food, no one cares really what anyone else eats.

Have you ever worked in a professional office in manattan?! Have you ever cooked in moonface brooklyn? What you are saying is totally not true at ALL. People are judged by three things in life.

1.) their looks and their weight
2.) what they eat
3.) where they shop for their clothes

It's 1000x more extreme here than the rest of the world. So yes, it can get bothersome at times. And it's cute to eat ramen noodles at 20 and cute to wear thrift store clothes at 25, but when you are 35 people start looking at you like you are a pathetic piece of crap.

*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 11:49 PM
June 7, 2012 11:50 PM - Slope4Eva
OK, folks gotta run, getting tired. Have a good night.
Edited at June 7, 2012 11:50 PM
June 7, 2012 11:51 PM - Deleted
korean grocers do suck. there's a mini chain up here that's spreading like wild fire "khims millenium market" for a while there was only one on the southside on bedford. they took over the legendary bodega (well, not legendary, but you know what i mean) on N7th and Bedford last year, and have opened like 3 more. it's impossible to get out of there for less than 20 bucks. milk, bread, eggs - 20 bucks. cigarettes and seltzer - 20 bucks.
Edited at June 7, 2012 11:51 PM
June 7, 2012 11:52 PM - Deleted
night s4e!
Edited at June 7, 2012 11:52 PM
June 7, 2012 11:53 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Yeah open kitchen / living room space actually reminds me of the projects I lived in as a teen in Jersey that were built in 80s. It was obviously cost cutting measures, and i HATED it then as much as I hate it now. Tho I dont really hate it now unless I want to cook. If I lived alone I probably wouldnt mind it so much but then again when im watching tv and sitting on the couch I really get turned off seeing a fridge. I just don't like that. I'd probably hang curtains or something. The whole open space thing is a combo of building on the cheap and helicopter parenting. Back in the day I remember early on it was the best cuz the ladies would all gossip in the kitchen and the men would watch tv in the living room. Now it all has to be combined? blech. No wonder the divorce rate is so high these days. Not enough private space to enjoy the things that genders enjoy most doing!


*rob*


*rob*

Edited at June 7, 2012 11:53 PM
June 7, 2012 11:56 PM - Slope4Eva
Rob, I worked in Manhattan for 25 years, 8.5 in Brooklyn Heights before that, my last year of employment in Queens. I worked 26 years for Citibank.

1. My weight is just fine, and, look at my avitar, I'm hot. LOL
2. I didn't give a rat's patooty what anyone thought of what I ate at my desk in work. CGar would peek once in a while.
3. I never shopped based on the store names. I always look for bargains.

Bottom line, I like me.

Gotta go, sweet dreams.
Edited at June 7, 2012 11:56 PM
June 7, 2012 11:57 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
it's impossible to get out of there for less than 20 bucks. milk, bread, eggs - 20 bucks. cigarettes and seltzer - 20 bucks.

Krazy told me the korean bodegas don't even LOOK at what you are doing in their stores if you skin is as light as theirs... Just sayin'. I don't have it in me to shoplift from those kinds of places, nor do I find shoplifting (other than the occassional tomato when it goes above 1.49 a pound) a very nice thing to do. But yeah. If I tried to shoplift a 40 at a real bodega I'd be caught. If I tried to steal a bushel of organic kale at the korean fauxdega? nah. Yeah they do have cameras tho, the one near me definitely does, so I don't know what Krazy is really thinking. But then again he claimed to have stolen a 1000 dollar stroller from someone's stoop but when I gave it donna she was like dude this totally came from the trash lol.

Edited at June 7, 2012 11:57 PM
June 8, 2012 12:02 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
korean grocers do suck. there's a mini chain up here that's spreading like wild fire "khims millenium market" for a while there was only one on the southside on bedford. they took over the legendary bodega (well, not legendary, but you know what i mean) on N7th and Bedford last year, and have opened like 3 more. it's impossible to get out of there for less than 20 bucks. milk, bread, eggs - 20 bucks. cigarettes and seltzer - 20 bucks.

Here's another thing... Maybe im nuts... But korean fauxdegas keep their stores at a certain temperature if you notice, regardless of time of the year, a temp that will make you spend more. Real bodegas are hot as fuck in the summer (or sometimes arctic freezing). And in the winter they smell funny. The fauxdegas has some sort of filtering mechanism that keeps the place scent free of ANYTHING, good or bad. So when you walk into a fauxdega it's like walking into a 7/11 high on the reefer in the suburbs, same temp, same weird atmosphere like you just walked onto another planet. Because of that you somehow don't feel as bad about spending more money. Im telling this happens all the time, at least for me. Why I will pay 13 bux for cigs in one of those places and more for beer, versus going down to a real bodega for 11.50 and cheaper beer has nothing to do with the three block and ONE avenue radius, trust me, im not that lazy. There is something in the piping systems of those fauxdegas.

OKay, g'nite!

June 8, 2012 12:06 AM - Deleted
nite!
Edited at June 8, 2012 12:06 AM
June 8, 2012 12:10 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
1. My weight is just fine, and, look at my avitar, I'm hot. LOL
2. I didn't give a rat's patooty what anyone thought of what I ate at my desk in work. CGar would peek once in a while.
3. I never shopped based on the store names. I always look for bargains.

Bottom line, I like me.


that is good. I like myself as well. I even laugh it off being called the office raggamuffin. When it comes to eating tho, I have issues. I can't eat around other people in that kind of atmosphere. (and you know I never poop at work so there are SOME kind of weird issues going on). Clothing doesn't exactly bother me, I feel in MOST situations the man (or woman) makes the clothes and not the other way around. But, eh, sometimes you catch a glimpse of yourself in the mirror, look at what youre wearing and shake your head. Sometimes I am envious of couples cuz they will tell each other if what they are wearing in the morning is okay to go out into the world. For single people, you only can rely upon what you see in the mirror and what your brain tells you and trust me mirrors and brains are two things in this Universe that lie to us the most. So what do you do? I wish you could take a picture of yourself in the morning, send it to 311 and say is it okay to go out like this today!? Oooooh, that sounds like a great idea for a business! But everything under the sun has already been done so i'll probably go to work wearing clothes that inevitably have a hole somewhere.

*rob

Edited at June 8, 2012 12:10 AM
June 8, 2012 12:11 AM - kazootite
Nite, Rob and DH
Edited at June 8, 2012 12:11 AM
June 8, 2012 12:17 AM - Deleted
nite kazoo!
Edited at June 8, 2012 12:17 AM
June 8, 2012 12:20 AM - lechacal
The beatings will continue until morale improves.

I'm tired enough that it would take several days to unwind. Just got home, having some irish whiskey as a palliative. Starting up again early tomorrow.
June 8, 2012 12:33 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
How's your weak butt?

*rob*

Edited at June 8, 2012 12:33 AM
June 8, 2012 12:48 AM - lechacal
Still weak. No exercise this week.
June 8, 2012 12:50 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
I decided to get a general checkup soon at the doctor soon. I'm going to ask my doctor if he thinks my butt is weak or not.


*rob*

Edited at June 8, 2012 12:50 AM
June 8, 2012 12:51 AM - lechacal
Night Rob
Edited at June 8, 2012 12:51 AM