Wednesday Open Thread
March 21, 2012 7:18 AM - CGar

326 comments
March 21, 2012 7:27 AM - dibs
GM
Edited at March 21, 2012 7:27 AM
#1
March 21, 2012 7:51 AM - sixyearsandcounting
GM. A note from the Fujairah Rotana, the hotel where we stayed on the east coast of the UAE:

This bathrobe has enjoyed considerable success among our guests, to the extent that some particularly enthusiastic customers have become "collectors of hotel bathrobes."

While we recognise that this initiative helps spread the reputation of our establishment, we nevertheless urge our most fervent supporters to make an effort to separate themselves from this admittedly endearing garment when they leave.

Alternatively, a bathrobe may be purchased from housekeeping.
Edited at March 21, 2012 7:51 AM
#2
March 21, 2012 8:00 AM - dibs
Just take the matches and the soap
Edited at March 21, 2012 8:00 AM
#3
March 21, 2012 8:06 AM - dibs
I used to take the small shampoo bottles from the Sukhothai in bangkok. I loved the smell of their shampoo, plus, it reminded me of my experiences in Bangkok.
Edited at March 21, 2012 8:05 AM
#4
March 21, 2012 8:12 AM - More4Less
"Sir, please hold on for a second before we complete this checkout. This is front desk [paging housekeeping]. Is the robe, towels, etc there?"
Edited at March 21, 2012 8:12 AM
#5
March 21, 2012 8:23 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
GM

Disturbing news report: Employers are asking for job candidates FB logins and passwords (and other social media).
Edited at March 21, 2012 8:23 AM
#6
March 21, 2012 8:27 AM - dibs
That was inevitable, Cobble.
Edited at March 21, 2012 8:26 AM
#7
March 21, 2012 8:29 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Yes, but I still don't like it or the idea that I could be rejected for my political beliefs or my support of Planned Parenthood or somesuch.
Edited at March 21, 2012 8:29 AM
#8
March 21, 2012 8:30 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Or rejected due to someone not liking my friends! Or their commentary or beliefs.
Edited at March 21, 2012 8:30 AM
#9
March 21, 2012 8:34 AM - dibs
But you haven't experienced anything like that, have you?
#10
March 21, 2012 8:43 AM - More4Less
cobble, more the reason to NOT have a facebook account
Edited at March 21, 2012 8:43 AM
#11
March 21, 2012 8:47 AM - dibs
The interactive subway map that I used is no longer. Does anyone have a link to one that shows both subway lines AND streets????
Edited at March 21, 2012 8:47 AM
#12
March 21, 2012 9:02 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I haven't had anyone ask me for my FB login/password YET. Time will tell. Unless this is nipped in the bud. I expect there will be lawsuits.

This is one of many reasons BH refuses to participate in FB.


Edited at March 21, 2012 9:03 AM
#13
March 21, 2012 9:15 AM - dibs
LOL, the cast of Mad Men is ringing the open bell at the NYSE
#14
March 21, 2012 9:18 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
DIBS, The bus map still shows the subways and streets, it's a little wonky, but perhaps it's helpful? http://www.mta.info/nyct/maps/busbkln.pdf Also, Google maps show the subway stops, but you have to hover/click to see which lines they are.
Edited at March 21, 2012 9:18 AM
#15
March 21, 2012 9:26 AM - dibs
Not very good, but thanks. There was one that showed every single street. It used to be here....

http://tripplanner.mta.info/subway_map/map/message.html

But this one was the best...

http://www.onnyturf.com/subway/

BOTH GONE NOW


Edited at March 21, 2012 9:26 AM
#16
March 21, 2012 9:32 AM - Deleted
it's pretty easy to temporarily suspend your facebook account.
#17
March 21, 2012 9:33 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
What about HopStop? http://www.hopstop.com/search

Edited at March 21, 2012 9:33 AM
#18
March 21, 2012 9:34 AM - Arkady
HopStop doesn't stay up to date w/ closures.
#19
March 21, 2012 9:35 AM - More4Less
DIBS, do you envision panasonic might pack it up on their TV division once the rumored Apple TV comes out in yearend? think only samsung is doing well, earnings-wise, across the big TV brands (Panasonic, Sony, LG etc). Given TV's, DVD players, etc, are all internet-connected device, am leary getting a brand that might pack it in once Apple TV comes out to kick some major ass. Panasonic plasma TV have the best pic quality but Samsung might be better odds of surviving an Apple invasion in this mkt
Edited at March 21, 2012 9:34 AM
#20
March 21, 2012 9:36 AM - dibs
hopstop doesn't tell you which lines are at those subway stops. Useless.
Edited at March 21, 2012 9:35 AM
#21
March 21, 2012 9:37 AM - dibs
Unless you ever used the onnyturf site, you never knew how good it really was. I don't know why it's no longer.
Edited at March 21, 2012 9:37 AM
#22
March 21, 2012 9:38 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
ew disgusting @ the thought of hotels giving their guests used bathrobes and then being all cheap ass asking them not to steal them? this is why i don't stay in hotels.


*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 9:37 AM
#23
March 21, 2012 9:39 AM - dibs
I think you've stayed in hotels on the internet when you have visited various cities.
#24
March 21, 2012 9:39 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Disturbing news report: Employers are asking for job candidates FB logins and passwords (and other social media).

i've been reading about this supposed new trend. it's definitely not happen, im sure it has happened to a few people, but trust me, most employers realize what an invasion of privacy it is. also, for many jobs, if you willy nilly handed over your personal passwords you WOULD NOT GET THE JOB. it's sort of a test question. only an IDIOT MORON would hand over any passwords to such a thing. think people, think!


*rob*

#25
March 21, 2012 9:40 AM - Arkady
Robes are washed as thoroughly as sheets & towels which have more intimate contact.
Edited at March 21, 2012 9:40 AM
#26
March 21, 2012 9:41 AM - Deleted
i missed the Apple Television discussion you guys previously had. any thoughts on price? i will definitely be buying one.
Edited at March 21, 2012 9:41 AM
#27
March 21, 2012 9:41 AM - More4Less
Arkady is right - imagine how many butt cracks & groins those towels have been sent in to dry those areas
Edited at March 21, 2012 9:41 AM
#28
March 21, 2012 9:42 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
im not a fan of robes anyway, i would never wear one. never have. they remind me of perverts and molesters for some reason.

*rob*

#29
March 21, 2012 9:44 AM - More4Less
DH, rumor has it their 37" will be around 1200 and 1800 for the 50". those prices surprised me as being low - same way the ipad pricing surprised me. this is why I aint getting a massive 60" fancy TV now but something like a 40-42" placeholder which I can move into the bedrm later so the apple TV can take the living rm spot.

what makes it killer is the siri voice command feature to control it
Edited at March 21, 2012 9:44 AM
#30
March 21, 2012 9:46 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
what exactly does apple tv offer? is it just a tv with an apple brand?

*rob*

#31
March 21, 2012 9:47 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
im not hating on it yet (even tho i hate apple with a passion) just curious what it does.

*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 9:46 AM
#32
March 21, 2012 9:48 AM - Deleted
ugh - 37" would be a little big for my living room.

i've read the apple television will have wifi and hook into hulu and netflix and perhaps even integrate with your cable box.
Edited at March 21, 2012 9:48 AM
#33
March 21, 2012 9:49 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Ok, I'm retiring from the NYC travel suggestion game. Figure it out yer damn self!
#34
March 21, 2012 9:57 AM - More4Less
DH, as long as you have ~8 to 8.5 ft distance from the 37" TV to your eyes, you should be fine
Edited at March 21, 2012 9:57 AM
#35
March 21, 2012 10:02 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
M4L, how much distance is required for 27" tvs?
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:02 AM
#36
March 21, 2012 10:02 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
And what happens if you don't have the recommended distance/space?
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:02 AM
#37
March 21, 2012 10:03 AM - Deleted
the entire width of my living room is 8.5 feet. so it's a lil closer.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:02 AM
#38
March 21, 2012 10:03 AM - Deleted
fuckin railroads
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:03 AM
#39
March 21, 2012 10:06 AM - MontroseMorris
In my old job, we made hundreds of robes for the small boutique hotels our parent company owned. Between being washed to paper thinness, guests stole them right and left. It was a pretty heavy expense for the hotel, which was not a huge chain like Sandals. I used to have the terry robes made in Turkey by the company we bought our terry cloth from, and we made the cotton batik print robes. I know more about bathrobes than anyone really needs to know.
#40
March 21, 2012 10:07 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
MM, email me please!
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:07 AM
#41
March 21, 2012 10:07 AM - DeLepp
someone googles me and you'll either find out I died last week in country cork or how much coin I paid for apt, which demonstrates insanity to non-new yorkers.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:07 AM
#42
March 21, 2012 10:09 AM - More4Less
snaps, I can comment on the 37" cause that's what I currently have and I found 8-8.5" to be good. think the bestbuy store guys were telling me the guideline is 3x the tv size. not like you won't see the pic or pic fuzz out or something if closer than guideline etc. it's just what they deem is an ideal viewing distance.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:09 AM
#43
March 21, 2012 10:10 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Ok, thanks.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:10 AM
#44
March 21, 2012 10:10 AM - DeLepp
Would a non-apple maufacturers become niche market for apple haters?
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:10 AM
#45
March 21, 2012 10:12 AM - Slopefarm
Who the hell travels with enough extra room in a travel bag to stuff a big robe into? And they look nice and fluffy but they really are not that comfortable.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:12 AM
#46
March 21, 2012 10:13 AM - Arkady
Here, DeLepp

#47
March 21, 2012 10:13 AM - More4Less
Rob, apple TV is like a giant iphone - web browsing, video chat, video streaming, emails, etc.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:13 AM
#48
March 21, 2012 10:14 AM - petebklyn
do you google yourself? often? sounds rather kinky.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:14 AM
#49
March 21, 2012 10:14 AM - Arkady
I keep lush terry cloth robes in my guestroom closet - they were client give-aways: Town & Country mag.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:14 AM
#50
March 21, 2012 10:16 AM - More4Less
delepp, if apple TV is popular like ipad, I would only see samsung surviving. as-is before apple tv, panasonic and sony are losing tons of money. don't see them sticking around if apple kicks their asses
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:16 AM
#51
March 21, 2012 10:16 AM - DeLepp
pete, I checked before job interview last week for any "surprises".
#52
March 21, 2012 10:16 AM - petebklyn
I had phone call last week from someone insisting that I was his cousin. deep southern-ish accent. thinks I'm some musician and that country music is 'real'. uh, I'm sorry. I have no relatives that speak that way.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:16 AM
#53
March 21, 2012 10:17 AM - DeLepp
m4l, I wonder how much of an electricity hog the apple will be.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:17 AM
#54
March 21, 2012 10:18 AM - Arkady
Read that the new Apple runs very hot.
#55
March 21, 2012 10:20 AM - Slopefarm
For a while, years back, I used to get calls from a bunch of frat buddies of a namesake looking to party. Then it was a plaintiff's lawyer who filed class action antitrust suits (I even got some calls from the press -- seriously, guys, call the number on the press release, don't look it up yourself). Now I'm mixed up with someone who died a mysterious death. Can't wait to see what's in store for my name in the afterlife.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:20 AM
#56
March 21, 2012 10:21 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Almost all computers are energy hogs, and the Apple Tv will basically be one giant honkin' computer. Don't doubt that the electricity meter would get a workout.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:21 AM
#57
March 21, 2012 10:22 AM - More4Less
arkady, that is reason why there are rumors apple might have to go with different chip processors on next release of stuff. their in-house A5 chip was running a few degrees hotter than ipad 2 - despite them repositioning the chips, gaps between battery slots, etc. Here's to hoping they select some AMD chips which are low power integrated GPU chips
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:22 AM
#58
March 21, 2012 10:22 AM - Slopefarm
I sent you an email, snaps. Good luck with the kitties.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:22 AM
#59
March 21, 2012 10:25 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Thanks, Slopey...meant to ask you if they have any female techs I could speak to...the kitties don't really like men/men's voices.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:24 AM
#60
March 21, 2012 10:26 AM - More4Less
processors consume tons of juicy when it's rev'd up. for basic internet browsing and video streaming, it's not a big hog. but if you're playing a car racing game with full HD graphics, yeah, processor will be rev'd up consuming tons of juicy and unit will run hot but not as hot as it would in the ipad3 - reason is I suspect the TV, like the computer, might have a fan to cool it.
#61
March 21, 2012 10:27 AM - petebklyn
you still looking for someone,snaps? I could ask my niece - but does she need to stay in apt all day/night?
#62
March 21, 2012 10:27 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Hmmm, yes, a fan would be needed.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:27 AM
#63
March 21, 2012 10:28 AM - Slopefarm
I think most of the techs are female. Tiffany sits for our cats, but she's a new mom with a baby, so I doubt she would move into chez snappy. There are a few other women who work there, mostly fairly young. There's only one male tech, AFAIK.
#64
March 21, 2012 10:28 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
are people so stupid to think it's a GOOD thing that apple hogs so many markets? they are already trying to take over the handheld video game market. competition is a good thing, not disgusting moonface monopolies. same shit with whole foods!

*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 10:28 AM
#65
March 21, 2012 10:29 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Pete, yes to both questions. Cats are super skittish around strangers and it would help if the person lived here. He'd have to come out for food, litter, etc. and would get used to whoever is here, thus giving them access to him for the medication. Otherwise, someone could spend over an hour trying to coax/drag him from underneath the bed.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:29 AM
#66
March 21, 2012 10:29 AM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Thanks, Slopey.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:29 AM
#67
March 21, 2012 10:30 AM - DeLepp
A fan for the TV. So much for technology making us more efficent. I think I should buy a panasonic b4 too late.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:30 AM
#68
March 21, 2012 10:30 AM - Deleted
speaking of apple, we just bought 100k worth of computers from them at work. they charge some serious coin for the fully loaded desktops the creatives use (about 10k a pop)
#69
March 21, 2012 10:44 AM - Kensingtonian
Very easy to lie about not having a facebook account. Mine is set up private so if you google my name or my email, my facebook would not pop up. Also as DH mentioned, it's very easy to temporarily disconnect it completely while you're looking for work.

Doubt any companies would ever ask you for PW and Login. I've never had employees even verify my education or ask for copies of degrees or had anyone ask to submit a drugtest (eventhough I know a few companies do a drug test). I totally could have lied and said I graduated Harvard. No one has checked in my experience.
#70
March 21, 2012 10:46 AM - rf
DIBS, googlemaps directions give you the option of going on foot, by bus and/or train, by car. Not always perfect but not bad.

You know that your Android phone has a built-in GPS, don't you?
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:46 AM
#71
March 21, 2012 10:48 AM - rf
DIBS, go to
http://mta.info/
On the right there's a trip planner.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:48 AM
#72
March 21, 2012 10:52 AM - Slopefarm
Wow, all this back and forth trying to find the right website for NYC transit travel. The rob method is much faster -- just ask for directions on the OT.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:51 AM
#73
March 21, 2012 10:59 AM - rf
maps.google.com
click on "get directions."
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:59 AM
#74
March 21, 2012 11:06 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Mine is set up private so if you google my name or my email, my facebook would not pop up."

Likewise, you won't find me if you Google FB.

But it still makes me uneasy that an employer might ask. And worse yet, that they may make judgements unrelated to what the job is based on one's circle of friends, their comments/postings, one's political beliefs, religious beliefs or other.
Edited at March 21, 2012 11:06 AM
#75
March 21, 2012 11:08 AM - More4Less
delepp, if apple tv aint an ultra-thin, doubt any fan needed. slim line with enough vent holes should be fine and even if unit runs a little hot due to tons of 3D HD race gaming, the unit is not in contact with user (vs is the case with an iphone, ipad etc) hence should be an issue as long as it aint a fire risk (doubt they would release a fire hazard product). I like Panasonic pic quality the best but leary they won't be around in that biz - ie buying these new TV's where they might no longer be around to support their TV app store is not outcome hence why am leaning toward Samsung instead
Edited at March 21, 2012 11:08 AM
#76
March 21, 2012 11:19 AM - jessibaby
How about that article in the Times about people losing hands due to medicine getting big money so long as used name brand and those who had generic getting nothing. Pretty crazy outcome.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/21/business/drug-lawsuits-hinge-on-the-detail-of-a-label.html?_r=1&hp
Edited at March 21, 2012 11:19 AM
#77
March 21, 2012 11:24 AM - Slopefarm
I meant to read that but didn't, jb. What's the legal mechanism? Is there a special statute limiting liability for generics? Or just that you can't actually figure out who the manufacturer is?
#78
March 21, 2012 11:26 AM - jessibaby
Generics have to use the same warning labels as name brand so can't be charged with being negligent based on contents of label. Also a bit of a problem finding the generic but supreme court ruled that generics cant be liable under the statute as written. Want a different result, change the statute, basically.
#79
March 21, 2012 11:28 AM - dibs
I'm at the dermatologist. I expect to get spots all over my body frozen.
Edited at March 21, 2012 11:28 AM
#80
March 21, 2012 11:28 AM - DeadCatBounce
How about the CEO's of Citibank getting big raises and bonuses when a. corporate profits were only up 1%, b. They failed the stress test?

What happened to performance based pay? Where were the shareholders?
Edited at March 21, 2012 11:28 AM
#81
March 21, 2012 11:29 AM - rf
Going to the dogs...
#82
March 21, 2012 11:33 AM - More4Less
DCB, they plan to announce a name change - officially to "Shitibank" so we can't complain as that name would accurately tell it all.
Edited at March 21, 2012 11:33 AM
#83
March 21, 2012 11:34 AM - dibs
It's always been known as shitibank
Edited at March 21, 2012 11:34 AM
#84
March 21, 2012 11:44 AM - More4Less
now, it'll be on a sign
#85
March 21, 2012 11:47 AM - Slopefarm
JB, so the issue is they can't be sued on a failure to warn/inadequate warning theory since it is not their warning? And not on product design since it is not their design, they only license it? Can you go after the patent holder if the injury is caused by the generic version?
Edited at March 21, 2012 11:47 AM
#86
March 21, 2012 11:48 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Like this...
Edited at March 21, 2012 11:48 AM
#87
March 21, 2012 11:48 AM - Slopefarm
Oh, and you have 30 minutes and this is worth 1/4 of your grade, jb.
Edited at March 21, 2012 11:48 AM
#88
March 21, 2012 11:48 AM - jessibaby
Patent is expired if generic is making it, yeah?
Edited at March 21, 2012 11:48 AM
#89
March 21, 2012 11:49 AM - Slopefarm
Wow, Wacky Packs, the finance industry set. Collect 'em all!
Edited at March 21, 2012 11:49 AM
#90
March 21, 2012 11:49 AM - More4Less
cobble, maybe instead of that red umbrella thingie, it'll be a brown poop pile
Edited at March 21, 2012 11:49 AM
#91
March 21, 2012 11:51 AM - More4Less
JB / Slopey, is licensing, IP, etc a juicy segment of law to get into?
Edited at March 21, 2012 11:51 AM
#92
March 21, 2012 12:07 PM - Slopefarm
I believe so, m4l. Counseling and litigation. Pretty high end (i.e. credentials) -- no one wants a hack. Was super hot in late 90s but I can't ever see the need decreasing. The number of forms of IP and platforms where IP is used keep mushrooming with technology. But lots of lawyers want. Actually, there might be a glut of IP lawyers -- I know a really good IP/patent lawyer, 15+ years, who was downsized from his firm and has been looking for work for quite a while.
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:06 PM
#93
March 21, 2012 12:12 PM - Kensingtonian
IP lawyers are on the lower end of the pay scale M4L. I probably know much more about that than all lawyers on this blog put together as I used to analyze pay scales and bonuses in the past career.

Top paid are M&A and Bankruptcy and lowest is Divorce and Traffic court.

Highest paid lawyers out there are Entertainment lawyers but the top ones are a very few in between.

Easiest to practice is Alternative structure products like Derivative Swaps and things like that but there maybe 5 lawyers in the whole country who are specialists in that and their clients consists of all of the top banks (I unsed to work for one of them - Guy worked maybe 10 hours a week but billed for the rate of 60 hours a week because he basically had no competition and big banks had no choice but to use him in the really complex transactions and bundled derivatives).
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:12 PM
#94
March 21, 2012 12:12 PM - jessibaby
It's a good practice area but pretty crowded. Patent requires a science background and trademark/copyright are very popular with people who think they are cool - i.e., I may not actually create cool stuff but I represent those who do and therefore I am also cool.
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:12 PM
#95
March 21, 2012 12:14 PM - Kensingtonian
BUT if you are an IP lawyer who is an expert in a field (say you have a degree as medical tech engineer and then practice med tech IP then you are probably golden).
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:14 PM
#96
March 21, 2012 12:14 PM - Deleted
all the in house at fashion houses just do trademark shit.
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:14 PM
#97
March 21, 2012 12:18 PM - Slope4Eva
Chairman of the Board, Parsons, is stepping down after 3 years.
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:18 PM
#98
March 21, 2012 12:23 PM - More4Less
M&A lawyers are crazy hrs and mega stressful. bankruptcy seems interesting.
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:23 PM
#99
March 21, 2012 12:23 PM - Slopefarm
Some big law white shoe firms have significant IP practices with fancy clients. But yeah, jb's assessment sounds right -- that field is crowded because so many think it is cool (great deal toys, event tix and other shit from clients, etc.). But kens sounds right -- dead end if you end up the in-house trademark guy. And I would agree -- med tech IP (which is really patent, not trademark) is great but you need the background.

In general, this is NOT a good time to become a lawyer. Attorney glut and clients are scrutinizing and resisting billing practices taken for granted in past.
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:23 PM
March 21, 2012 12:24 PM - Slopefarm
Don't do M&A if you like to spend Christmas with family. Lots of year end dealmaking.
March 21, 2012 12:25 PM - rf
Jeb Bush endorsed Romney. Maybe the fun season is almost over.
March 21, 2012 12:25 PM - Slopefarm
You thinking of getting a law degree, m4l?
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:25 PM
March 21, 2012 12:26 PM - Arkady
Two big, fat robins in the birdbath! Really huge!
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:26 PM
March 21, 2012 12:26 PM - Kensingtonian
Yeah Slopey, tough out there right now for out of college lawyers. The ones who are already in lawfirms or lateral moves are having an OK time finding jobs but unless you are graduating from top school now and at top of the class, it's tough to start......unless you go into small private practice like real estate or small business but even then you have to have some funding set aside to support yourself until you build it up.
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:26 PM
March 21, 2012 12:27 PM - Arkady
Piece in the Times yesterday about vastly declining enrollments in law schools.
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:27 PM
March 21, 2012 12:28 PM - jessibaby
"In general, this is NOT a good time to become a lawyer. Attorney glut and clients are scrutinizing and resisting billing practices taken for granted in past."

Apparently the amount of LSAT takers is down like 16%. People are finally getting it.
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:27 PM
March 21, 2012 12:30 PM - Slopefarm
That's my read, rf. April primaries already favor Romney, and delegate lead is close to insurmountable. Santorum needs to change the game very soon or he's effectively out -- nibbling at the delegate count won't lead to a convention delegate fight. Right now it looks like a PITA slog to nomination for Romney but he gets there before the convention. And Giongrich is just delusional about the endgame.
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:30 PM
March 21, 2012 12:31 PM - More4Less
slopey, nah, lawyer is too hard. don't forget, I'm also the dude who gave up on electrical engineering to go into cush accounting major. I can only see myself working mega hard and be stressed out running own biz.
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:31 PM
March 21, 2012 12:31 PM - Slopefarm
I think the class action suits against lower tier schools are scaring people.
March 21, 2012 12:34 PM - Slopefarm
So what prompted the question, m4l -- chit chat or do you know someone thinking about it?
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:34 PM
March 21, 2012 12:39 PM - Kensingtonian
There were class action suits against lower schools? Got a link by any chance?
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:39 PM
March 21, 2012 12:40 PM - More4Less
dittoburg over there telling me the technical stuff he does got the IP stuff on my head and when JB posted about the generics etc, it just triggered the question.
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:40 PM
March 21, 2012 12:46 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
OmfG THIS PICTURE, LOOK AT THOSE CANKLES!
:-/

*ROB*

Edited at March 21, 2012 12:46 PM
March 21, 2012 12:48 PM - Kensingtonian
Nevermind, found it!

http://nymag.com/news/features/law-schools-2012-3/


Edited at March 21, 2012 12:48 PM
March 21, 2012 12:50 PM - Slopefarm
I don't, kens, but it has been in the news. The general claim is taht some of the schools manipulatred placement data and misrepresented their success in placing grads -- counting people volunteering, or doing research shitwork for processors, etc. Theory is that if they new that Law School X only placed 70% of grads in real jobs, not 95%, they would not have gone and spent all that money on tuition. Some of these schools also ramped up enrollment in recent years, adding to the glut. The glut is really hurting the lower tier of law school grads. If you come out well-credentialed, you will still land somewhere decent. Whether or not the suits have legal merit, the PR ahs been really bad for the lower tier schools. Also, big law can't bill as much first year shitwork to clients so they outsource that workl to low paid per diem lawyers and bill clients at far lower rate (taking a cut along the way), So first year classes are smaller and some get offered to skip first year for partial pay. This has been going on for about 3 years and is only partially related to recession.
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:50 PM
March 21, 2012 12:52 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I see rob is trolling.
March 21, 2012 12:53 PM - Slopefarm
I still say there were some stupid people in that LSAT prep class with me. If they managed to get law degrees, the shakeout is overdue.
March 21, 2012 12:54 PM - Slopefarm
Ignore it, dp.

PS He never posted that pic he promised of a 12 year old in a stroller in PS.
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:54 PM
March 21, 2012 12:56 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
do you even know the fucking definition of trolling? i do. it's the flaunt remark of someone who has no argument or anything to say. and what pray tell am i trolling? i saw a picture of ugly moonfaces in a park with mega cankles and felt like posting it!


*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 12:56 PM
March 21, 2012 12:56 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Ignore what? ; )

Oh right, there was supposed to actual photographic evidence!
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:56 PM
March 21, 2012 12:57 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
well i didnt run into any 12 year olds in strollers! and it would be inappropriate and creepy if i took a pic! but they do exist

&*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 12:57 PM
March 21, 2012 12:57 PM - rf
What the fuck is this fixation with ankles???
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:57 PM
March 21, 2012 12:58 PM - rf
Women's ankles at that. All the Big Brother and other photos you post are of women on the verge of anorexia. I don't get it.
Edited at March 21, 2012 12:58 PM
March 21, 2012 1:00 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i was laughing at the cankles in that picture. nothing more, nothing less. it's springtime, unfortunately you see way more of those out and about these days.

*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 1:00 PM
March 21, 2012 1:01 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
MoBH is sending us her old Kindle 2. It's got 210 books on it!

rob just needs to get his hate on, and he can't do it at work, so he does it here. I hope some super model steps on him when he goes out to get coffee today. : P
Edited at March 21, 2012 1:01 PM
March 21, 2012 1:03 PM - Deleted
typical of many gay dudes. weird fixation on the appearance of women. he should go to parson's and become a womenswear designer.
Edited at March 21, 2012 1:03 PM
March 21, 2012 1:04 PM - Kensingtonian
LOL.

"“Everyone likes to think they’re that special little snowflake,” says Staci Zaretsky, an editor at the popular blog Above the Law. “They applied to a [lower-tier] school, with the expectation that they’ll be one of the ones to get the job. The truth is, they may not.” Getting into a law school—some law school, any law school—does not make a person cut out to be a lawyer. But a lot of law students would not bother seeking the degree without first convincing themselves otherwise."
March 21, 2012 1:06 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Cripes, these people want an MBA for an Office Manager position?!
Edited at March 21, 2012 1:06 PM
March 21, 2012 1:16 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Cripes, these people want an MBA for an Office Manager position?!

absurd , right?
*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 1:15 PM
March 21, 2012 1:17 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
just walk in to the interview anyway and say you thought MBA stood for my booty aches

*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 1:16 PM
March 21, 2012 1:19 PM - Arkady
CHiller - My niece gave me her Nook when she got something else - you can download free things from the library for it & Kindle.
March 21, 2012 1:24 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I'm psyched, Arkady!
Edited at March 21, 2012 1:23 PM
March 21, 2012 1:42 PM - More4Less
Move aside Lin. Make room for your inspiration - Tim Tebow (newest member of NYC Jets)
Edited at March 21, 2012 1:42 PM
March 21, 2012 1:46 PM - DeLepp
m4l, so we got two sub par but handsome quarterbacks now.
Edited at March 21, 2012 1:46 PM
March 21, 2012 1:48 PM - More4Less
Delepp, but the better looking one supposedly doesn't believe in or practice pre-marital sex - ie Dirty Sanchez should not be worried about off-field competition
Edited at March 21, 2012 1:48 PM
March 21, 2012 1:57 PM - Deleted
have you seen tebow's gf tho? they're definitely doing something nasty together.
Edited at March 21, 2012 1:57 PM
March 21, 2012 1:57 PM - DeLepp
m4l what jets needs is someone who can throw, not make a pass.
Edited at March 21, 2012 1:57 PM
March 21, 2012 1:58 PM - More4Less
Tebow supposely has huge crush and made crush down to that cute blond on Glee
Edited at March 21, 2012 1:58 PM
March 21, 2012 2:12 PM - MontroseMorris
What in the world does the size of someone's ankles have to do with anything? Who cares?
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:12 PM
March 21, 2012 2:17 PM - Legion
Greetings,
people of the OT.

Can anyone tell me about the iTouch?
Littlelegion is going on and on about how all the kids have one.
He says that his friend's 3 year old sister has her own iPad, WTF!
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:17 PM
March 21, 2012 2:18 PM - MontroseMorris
I wanted to go to law school for a while, when I was in college. But then I saw all the people who were going, and knew I'd get run over by them. I didn't realize at the time that one doesn't have to be a super aggressive A-type personality in order to be a lawyer. If I had gone, I'd probably be holed up in a law library somewhere writing briefs for the A-types to wave around in court. Hopefully being well compensated, too.
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:18 PM
March 21, 2012 2:20 PM - Legion
...you'd probably be doing real estate law,
representing the city in Landmarks Preservation issues MM.
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:20 PM
March 21, 2012 2:22 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
He says that his friend's 3 year old sister has her own iPad, WTF!

sadly, he's probably telling the truth.

*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 2:22 PM
March 21, 2012 2:23 PM - More4Less
legion, I must admit that I got the kid, at age 2, the ipad 1 - the learning apps were great; albeit, didn't anticipate youtube would be the fav use.
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:23 PM
March 21, 2012 2:24 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
almost every i went to college with who went to law school afterwards pretty much ONLY did it to snag husbands. (and they all did).

*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 2:24 PM
March 21, 2012 2:26 PM - Deleted
iTouch = iphone without the phone
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:26 PM
March 21, 2012 2:27 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
which is probably just as fun as visiting France on the internet!

*rob*

March 21, 2012 2:27 PM - Legion
Yes, it seems to be a trend to buy the young ones ipads and such.
Supposedly, the early child learning specialists approve so it's becoming common.
All I got at 3 was a set of Lincoln Logs!
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:27 PM
March 21, 2012 2:27 PM - Deleted
haha mm - imagine if you were a lawyer and had to work at a firm full of lechacals!!
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:27 PM
March 21, 2012 2:28 PM - Legion
"almost every i went to college with who went to law school afterwards pretty much ONLY did it to snag husbands. (and they all did). "

Many nurses end up married to doctors that route too.
Seen it first hand A LOT!


Edited at March 21, 2012 2:28 PM
March 21, 2012 2:29 PM - rf
DH is right, it's a little computer. If you have wifi in the house, your kid will have the internet at his fingertips. My daughter uses hers for all kinds of stuff besides music, including texting when there were limits on free texts on her phone. How old is Little Legion? I think you can put some kind of parental control on it, but I bet you'll want to put the charger far from his room.
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:29 PM
March 21, 2012 2:33 PM - Legion
He's 8 rf,
...already an expert on his laptop but getting peer pressure to go with the mobile iTouch I guess.
If it has parental controls then I'll probably give in and get it for his bday coming up soon.
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:32 PM
March 21, 2012 2:33 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
yeah i know a lot of nurses arent serious about their careers and only got into the field to snag rich doctors too. but then the doctors divorce them and trade them in, for, well, someone who doesnt live like a nurse and the hospitals all across the country wind up with bitter mean divorced nurses! so i guess i understand why they are so nasty all the time having had their who lifes plan backfire like that! (fyi, im talking male nurses as well...)


*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 2:33 PM
March 21, 2012 2:35 PM - MontroseMorris
"imagine if you were a lawyer and had to work at a firm full of lechacals!!"

Exactly why I didn't go.

Legion, I've met the top law guy at LPC. Overworked and understaffed, and probably underpaid, like the rest of LPC. No thanks.
March 21, 2012 2:35 PM - More4Less
legion, if littlelegion wants the new touch, might as well get the ipad 2 - the ipad is way better but then you can't allow it to be brought to school (high risk of it being taken by bullies)
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:35 PM
March 21, 2012 2:36 PM - Slopefarm
Landmarks would be administrative law, not RE.

I am shocked, though, at what gadgets parents are willing to give their kids. I started seeing friends of the farmhand with I Touches and I phones around 5th grade. She still has neither -- just a plain old cell phone for texting (no one actually CALLs people anymore, dad).

And LOL, kens, yes there's actually research on how people selectively accept the information that boosts their chances and iognroes the information that would tell them otherwise. It's the same with smokers -- they all have a theory as to why they won't get cancer (I jog, I smoke less than others, etc.). Students entering low tier schools probably have not really looked at the hiring market and analyzed their own chances realistically. They all know why they'll succeed and have no clue why they'll fail.

Edited at March 21, 2012 2:36 PM
March 21, 2012 2:37 PM - dibs
Regarding ankles, I rarely look south of a guys ass. In a glory hole situation you can't even see them.
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:37 PM
March 21, 2012 2:39 PM - More4Less
for same price as the itouch, get the kid the kindle fire.
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:39 PM
March 21, 2012 2:39 PM - MontroseMorris
What the hell does "lives like a nurse" mean? Nurses live like everyone else with a demanding and under-appreciated job. And most people would not go into a field where you are demeaned by the public, by arrogant doctors, and patients who think you are a servant, unless you were serious about it.
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:39 PM
March 21, 2012 2:39 PM - Legion
That's a consideration M4L,
the ipad would be better for taking on long trips and watching movies on.
Then comes the inevitable request from legiongirl for the same. uh oh. :o(
March 21, 2012 2:40 PM - Donatella
Sometime back I took a career assessment, a battery of tests at NYU. The person told me, have you ever considered being a lawyer....you score on interests very similiar to other lawyers. ooooh, I thought. I took the LSAT, applied to some local law schools, got into them. But then I "interviewed" lawyers. I did a kind of survey, meeting with family, friends, colleagues and discovered that in 1991:

1) there was a glut of lawyers, too many unemployed, underemployed lawyers.
2) the lawyers I spoke to (about 15) were miserable.
3) I couldn't visualize exactly what kind of law I would do
4) it would eliminate every drop of free time for about 5 years

I decided against it.
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:40 PM
March 21, 2012 2:44 PM - Slopefarm
1991 was a bad time for lawyers, too, dona. Actual layoffs at firms. Many firms hurt their own rep for hiring credentialed recruits. Now they jump through hoops to save money without looking like they are laying anyone off. There are many interesting ways to have a law career, but the path for those is hard to see and law school tuition often makes it impossible. It's not all as soulless as big law.
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:44 PM
March 21, 2012 2:44 PM - dibs
LOL at MM taking the bait on all the nurse comments!!!!!!!
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:44 PM
March 21, 2012 2:47 PM - More4Less
Lech is good at what he does cause he likes that stuff, the pace, the stress etc. Not many can last and prosper in that area of law.
March 21, 2012 2:47 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
She still has neither -- just a plain old cell phone for texting

that's kinda like child abuse to kids that age. im *SHOCKED* she hasnt treatened to get herself emancipated yet! i would have, and did many time!



*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 2:47 PM
March 21, 2012 2:48 PM - MontroseMorris
Of course, being a doctor or a lawyer were two of the most popular professions everyone was going into, when I was in college. About 10 of my friends became lawyers. One is dead, and none the other nine are practicing. They all went into corporate law, most of them trying for white shoe firms in NYC. I'd say 8 of them did it for the money, only two wanted to help people or were actually interested in law.
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:47 PM
March 21, 2012 2:48 PM - rf
ipads cost A LOT MORE than i-touches! My kid bought hers babysitting money. She's had it for a while. I think she got it when she was 13 and she's 16 now.
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:48 PM
March 21, 2012 2:49 PM - MontroseMorris
I can't help it, Dave. It gets me every time.
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:49 PM
March 21, 2012 2:50 PM - Donatella
There were two people who liked law actually out of the people I interviewed. Two cousins. One worked for a small law firm which handled a diverse client base and my other cousin started out as a real estate lawyer in NJ working for a small firm doing commercial real estate. He is the hardest worker I have ever seen. He eventually started his own firm, taking a few of the associates he liked and is happy as a clam at high tide. All the corporate lawyers were not happy campers though. My friend who was sort of happy doing his own thing too, also taught at Brooklyn Law. He took me out with his students once for dinner. In an aside, he told me "none of these people is going to get a job".

I think that clinched it for me.
March 21, 2012 2:53 PM - rf
Whoops, I just looked and on the apple store website, $299 for ipad 2, $199 for touch.

Still, they are different things, especially for an 8-year-old. Maybe you could get him an ipod touch, and then pass that one along to the little sister when you get him an ipad in the future?

Don't you need to pay a monthly fee for the ipad, for the connection? Or can you just use it at home with wifi like with the touch?
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:53 PM
March 21, 2012 2:54 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I'd say 8 of them did it for the money, only two wanted to help people or were actually interested in law.

funny that... yet these days it's the same for the nursing industry. people have flooded it FOR THE MONEY (i guess not a LOT, but still for the money). too many dumb people studying nursing now who shouldnt be. people who can barely pass a bio 101 class in college type of thing! so yes, nurses are the new lawyers. actually the whole healthcare industry is. glut glut glut full of idiots.

*rob*

March 21, 2012 2:56 PM - Donatella
You know, I don't sleep nights worrying whether or not my ankles look thick. Out of the 1.342 million things I worry about, that is right up there on the top of the list. ;-| Then I worry about being related to all those nurses. Then I worry about essence of poo floating over my toothbrushes. When I go on business trips, I worry about wearing bathrobes once swathing other bodies, towels drying other butts, sheets once marked with the goo from others bodies.
March 21, 2012 2:57 PM - dibs
You can use iPad with WiFi
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:57 PM
March 21, 2012 2:57 PM - Arkady
Cue arkady rant #517 - Nurses. They work 12 hour shifts in a demanding job & do it cheerfully & well. You couldn't pay me enough to even consider doing it.
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:57 PM
March 21, 2012 2:59 PM - Deleted
why do you do your job rob?
March 21, 2012 2:59 PM - rf
So you don't need a Verizon/Sprint/AT&T contract for an ipad?
Edited at March 21, 2012 2:59 PM
March 21, 2012 2:59 PM - MontroseMorris
Bless you, Donatella!
March 21, 2012 3:01 PM - dibs
You can but if you can get WiFi connections you can use those
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:01 PM
March 21, 2012 3:02 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
couldn't pay me enough to even consider doing it.

total agreeance!!! i couldnt be asked for all the money in the world to live like a nurse either!

*rob*

March 21, 2012 3:02 PM - Donatella
:-] MM.

Ok off to see the doctor finally to see what he thinks about my hand. I have been handling (cover your eyes *rob*) gooey putty all morning so my hand will be limber so he can tell me how great he thinks I am doing. Then physical therapy. I am getting to the end of this road and not a moment too soon.
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:02 PM
March 21, 2012 3:03 PM - Legion
"Cue arkady rant #517 - Nurses. They work 12 hour shifts in a demanding job & do it cheerfully & well. You couldn't pay me enough to even consider doing it."

Arkady would probably end up strangling a doctor with her own stethascope because of the bad grammar and handwriting on the nurse's orders.
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:02 PM
March 21, 2012 3:04 PM - MontroseMorris
This time, Dave, I'm not going to bother.
March 21, 2012 3:05 PM - jessibaby
"Students entering low tier schools probably have not really looked at the hiring market and analyzed their own chances realistically."

I lucked out. But I also didnt go assuming I'd be lucky. I thought I'd do better on the LSAT but when I didn't, I still wanted to go to law school - so I did what I could to achieve my goal. I think having loans and needing to succeed made me work harder than I would had school been paid for.
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:05 PM
March 21, 2012 3:06 PM - Arkady
Legion - I have been known to take doctors to task for not answering questions in good English - it begs more questions for elucidation & undermines one's confidence in their overall ability.
March 21, 2012 3:07 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
being around human detritus 12 hours a day (which is what nurses DO for a living) is just. well. gross. this isnt bait, just giving my justifiable reason why i could never live like one. you really think they don't bring the funk with them!? please.




*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 3:07 PM
March 21, 2012 3:08 PM - Slopefarm
Top of my list of worries, donna, is why my 12 year old daughter needs me to push her to middle school in a stroller while she surfs the web on her Ipad. When is that girl gonna walk???
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:08 PM
March 21, 2012 3:09 PM - Legion
...I usually just tell the patients:
"No hablo Ingles."
If they ask too many questions.
Then I walk out of the room abruptly.
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:09 PM
March 21, 2012 3:09 PM - Kensingtonian
JB, same here. I would have probably gotten into a mediocre law school (no way I would get into the top tier) and probably did OK in school and enough to barely pass the bar BUT my drive to pay off my loans and my shmoozing with partners at big lawfirms would probably land me a decent job but I would do it for all the wrong reasons (money and prestige) so I decided to bail on that idea.

I have been pretty lucky with my career so far. I don't think I am smarter than most of my co-workers or had better work ethic but I've had extremely good report with upper management and they seem to like me so I must be doing something right.
March 21, 2012 3:12 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
my shmoozing with partners at big lawfirms would probably land me a decent job but I would do it for all the wrong reasons (money and prestige) so I decided to bail on that idea.

lol @ your ego

*rob*

March 21, 2012 3:13 PM - More4Less
the apps on the ipad are way cooler than the similar app on itouch - the big screen size does make in that respect. if it's $100 diff, get the ipad over the itouch.
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:13 PM
March 21, 2012 3:15 PM - dibs
I bet most nurses do their own taxes.
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:15 PM
March 21, 2012 3:16 PM - Legion
arkady
beware of the doctors that like to go into doctorspeak, for instance:
The periosteal lining on the condylar groove of your ulna reveals an irregular radiodensity which may be consistent with a negative prognosis, we'll order a magnetic resonance image to determine if this was just artifact.

...now I have a golf date at 1:00PM.
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:16 PM
March 21, 2012 3:20 PM - More4Less
DIBS, or they pay for professionals to do it
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:20 PM
March 21, 2012 3:21 PM - More4Less
Kens,

I'm no dummy but aint no genius either. I've been more lucky than smart so far in my work/career so far.
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:22 PM
March 21, 2012 3:22 PM - Slopefarm
"I bet most nurses do their own taxes." Yes, and now rob won't touch the forms. I think dona called it last week when she said everything that freaks rob out has something to do with poop. We can add the nurse obsession and the (entirely theoretical, of course) hotel bathrobe aversion to the list.

Edited at March 21, 2012 3:21 PM
March 21, 2012 3:23 PM - More4Less
Slopey, are you saying Rob is a clean freak - ie hypocro something??
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:23 PM
March 21, 2012 3:24 PM - Kensingtonian
being around human detritus 12 hours a day (which is what nurses DO for a living) is just. well. gross.

*rob*

lol, I bet that's how your roommate feels..... oh no I didn't.

.
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:24 PM
March 21, 2012 3:24 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Hola loserinos! Looks like my cat situation will be resolved through one means or another :-) (thought for a moment I was gonna have to take that little bastard on the plane with me!)

I'm ready for a drinkie :-)
March 21, 2012 3:24 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I bet most nurses do their own taxes.

A Center Valley nurse-anesthetist pleaded guilty last week to two counts of federal tax evasion. Joseph V. Kovalich, 55, of 4234 Windsor Place, remained free after entering the guilty plea in Easton before Judge Franklin S. Van Antwerpen. He could face a maximum term of five years in federal prison, three years of supervised release, a $250,000 fine and a $50 special assessment on each of the charges, which relate to income tax returns filed for the 1986 and 1987 tax years. Internal Revenue Service investigators said Kovalich reported $36,635 in income in 1986, with a tax liability of $6,389, when in actuality his earnings were $57,182 and he owed $13,493.


i mean if they even PAY taxes
...
Tax deductions are beautiful things, but there are different ones for each are of revenue. In this article, we discuss tax deductions for traveling nurses.

Tax Deductions for Traveling Nurses

If you are a traveling nurse, there are various tax deductions that you should be aware of. While there are basic deductions that all nurses receive, the expenses incurred for traveling nurses are also oftentimes deductible. It is imperative to note that in order to be eligible for traveling nurse deductions, you must have a tax home. This is the place your reside when not on duty. It will be your permanent mailing address. The tax home will be proof that you are traveling from your home to and from nursing appointments. If you do not have a home and travel between jobs, you must be considered homeless for tax purposes. Be sure that you meet any other federal or state mandated requirements to apply for traveling nurse deductions.




*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 3:24 PM
March 21, 2012 3:25 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
"oh no I didn't."

OH YES YOU DID!!!!! HA!

ok...I'll be a good girl now...
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:25 PM
March 21, 2012 3:26 PM - More4Less
snaps, drink - OK. smoke - the slap is forthcoming
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:26 PM
March 21, 2012 3:27 PM - Legion
*rob*,
You should develop and market a Nurse and Cankle app for the iPad.
It would take ordinary photos and superimpose them on a typical nurses outfit with exposed ankles.
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:27 PM
March 21, 2012 3:28 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
M4L, I don't even need a ciggie now, I'm so giddy. Just a glass of something tasty.
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:28 PM
March 21, 2012 3:29 PM - More4Less
Legion, an app to slap nurse (or maid or police etc) outfit onto hot talent would be more mkt-appealing.
March 21, 2012 3:31 PM - petebklyn
i bet these days more doctors marry other doctors. as more women are in the field.
my nephew graduated law school last year and is working at law firm (and probably 'lower tier' -- boy,law schools gotta be the most snobby, classist of all professions) but in buffalo which is okay by him because that is where is from and went to law school.
nurse I know does his own taxes.
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:31 PM
March 21, 2012 3:31 PM - Slopefarm
Snaps, did you get anywhere with Dr. Maddon's techs?

Oh, and, shhh, no one tell rob that vet tech is a fancy term for cat nurse!!

And no, m4l, not an OCD issue. The fixation is on poop, specifically, not dirt. Definitely a problem for Freudians, not behavioralists.
March 21, 2012 3:32 PM - dibs
God knows what my hands were touching before I mailed rob's tax forms back to him.
March 21, 2012 3:32 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Slopey, no. I never called them. Called Mr. Bu's vet first then found asshat possibilities :-)
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:32 PM
March 21, 2012 3:33 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
or just a simple app that takes temp, blood pressure, etc, that nurses get all huffy over when you tell them you can do those damn things yourself and you dont need their useless help!

*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 3:33 PM
March 21, 2012 3:35 PM - dibs
rob, do you have a sphygmomanometer????
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:35 PM
March 21, 2012 3:37 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Oh, and, shhh, no one tell rob that vet tech is a fancy term for cat nurse!!

lol. i dont mind them. they arent mega bitchy and rude (they always seem quite pleasant and friendly, tho ive only taken duke to two vets in his life. actually his first vet was a total fucking shithead, she tried to convince me he needed dental work and he didnt. even his current vet says so.)
, and i cant do the things they on my dog all by myself.
March 21, 2012 3:41 PM - Slope4Eva
Legion, Colorforms? OK, Rob is being silly with the cankle talk. However, two years ago I hurt my back and was popping Aleve like crazy. I assumed you could take every 4 hours.... wrong. Once the dizziness ended, I noticed my ankles swelled up like crazy. I cried, "I have cankles".
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:41 PM
March 21, 2012 3:41 PM - DeLepp
Rob has just lived in wrong era. He could have been one of the Drs who examined King George VI poop to determine whether he was insane.
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:41 PM
March 21, 2012 3:42 PM - Slopefarm
"sphygmomanometer????"????

Well, I don't know what the prefix "sphygmo" means, but of COURSE dibs would have a MANometer. Tell us, dibs, what does it measure???
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:41 PM
March 21, 2012 3:42 PM - Legion
haha,
you want to play a prank on the nurse in the doctor's office?
Put a slip of paper between your fingertip and the pulse-oximetry meter so that the oxygen reading is low,
then act like you're passed out.
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:42 PM
March 21, 2012 3:45 PM - Legion
That's it slope4eva!
colorforms. nice memories.

...although aleve is an anti-inflammatory,
these meds usually have a Na+ (sodium) atom attached to the molecule to pull it into the blood stream. Too much causes water retention and swollen ankles. Watch out!
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:45 PM
March 21, 2012 3:46 PM - Legion
haha
M4L,
that totally reminded me of a toy my sisters had which was made of like a static cling plastic and you could
take these plastic two dimensional people and place any outfit you wanted on them.
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:46 PM
March 21, 2012 3:47 PM - petebklyn
do doctors offices really have nurses? I just assumed they were assistants or techs or something.
March 21, 2012 3:47 PM - Slope4Eva
I was in the hospital once and my IV ran out and the alarm rang and rang and rang. When someone finally came into the room and asked ME what was wrong, I grabbed my chest and said my heart, my heart. Well the poor girl almost fainted, and started yelling for a doctor.
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:47 PM
March 21, 2012 3:49 PM - Slopefarm
Did your sisters have an etch a sketch, legion? Seems to be all the rage today on the campaign trail.
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:48 PM
March 21, 2012 3:50 PM - More4Less
the kid drawing in ipad app saves paper and clean-up time for me.
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:50 PM
March 21, 2012 3:50 PM - Legion
pete,
old school and high end offices have actual nurses,
but usually these days they are just medical assistants who take blood pressures, administer tests and injections.

slope4eva,
I hope you told her you were kidding right away!
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:50 PM
March 21, 2012 3:55 PM - Legion
"Did your sisters have an etch a sketch, legion? Seems to be all the rage today on the campaign trail."

Definitely,
they're still popular, and come in different colors now, from what I've seen at Toys-R-Us.
March 21, 2012 3:57 PM - rf
My doc has a physician's assistant who calls me and explains the results of the bloodwork I get when I go for my annual please-write-new-prescriptions appointment.
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:57 PM
March 21, 2012 3:57 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
oh i loved colorforms! i used to chew on the vynil pieces. i had pica as a kid. well a mild form of it i guess (lots of kids do). i think i technically have a cankle as slopeeva as well. it's the same ankle i sprained a few times. it grew back totally weird. it's not like hardcore cankles (which basically means NO ankles, calf goes right down to foot), more like a deformed ankle.

*rob*

March 21, 2012 3:59 PM - Slopefarm
I see I should have posted a link, legion. Bit of extra fun with this toy, today.

http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/etch-a-sketch-is-1393623.html
Edited at March 21, 2012 3:59 PM
March 21, 2012 4:00 PM - rf
Nancy Reagan had ankles like that. (maybe she still does!) I call them piano legs.
Edited at March 21, 2012 4:00 PM
March 21, 2012 4:00 PM - Slope4Eva
Yes, definitely Legion. If I could have gotten out of bed, I might have given her a little hug too. Rob, I do have my lovely ankles back. But wait... YOU have one cankle. Oh my, you are going to hear it now, hold on.
Edited at March 21, 2012 4:00 PM
March 21, 2012 4:02 PM - rf
No, silly, Slope4Eva, cankles only matter on GIRLS!
March 21, 2012 4:03 PM - Slope4Eva
Let me get this straight. Yesterday people were sharing nurse horror stories, al la Rob. Today, we admit to having cankles, and, first Ladies with cankles (or piano legs, lol). See, Rob's not such a nut.
March 21, 2012 4:04 PM - rf
Trust me, Slope4eva, I only mention piano legs because Rob raised the subject. Definitely not an obsession of mine!
March 21, 2012 4:05 PM - Legion
Ahhh,
I see now slopefarm,
I could just imagine a clever PAC coming up with a commercial where Romney's positions keep being erased on the etch-a sketch then redrawn.
Gingrich loves to throw the jabs. I think at this point, he's still in it just to keep needling people.
Edited at March 21, 2012 4:05 PM
March 21, 2012 4:08 PM - More4Less
rf, how about fat knees?
Edited at March 21, 2012 4:08 PM
March 21, 2012 4:08 PM - Slopefarm
Legion, I think Gingrich believes, however delusionally, that he will be a player and perhaps a kingmaker at the convention with his delegates, with an outside shot at getting the crown himself. He's in it until he can't delude himself any more and/or the money dries up. But he is a master at this sort of stuff.
March 21, 2012 4:11 PM - rf
M4L, I think my mother told me about piano legs, i.e., how lucky I was not to have them. And I once read the Kitty Kelly trashy biography of Nancy Reagan in which it was mentioned how much she hated her piano legs.

Nothing in the memory bank about fat knees!
March 21, 2012 4:13 PM - Deleted
I have had a number of financial companies contact me about my 401K roll-over. I just received a sales call from a rep of a well-known insurance company. His product (variable annuity) was the biggest rip-off POS I've ever seen, and on top of that, they would want a fee of 1% of assets per year.

Rather than write an op-ed in the NYT, I simply did not buy their product. To those who would retort that some folks do not have the necessary level of financial knowledge to make such a judgment, I would say: don't buy something you don't understand.
Edited at March 21, 2012 4:13 PM
March 21, 2012 4:16 PM - Deleted
I received my first assignment as Benson the Consultant today. I have to update a previously-published market research report. Away I go!
Edited at March 21, 2012 4:16 PM
March 21, 2012 4:16 PM - Deleted
I received my first assignment as Benson the Consultant today. I have to update a previously-published market research report. Away I go!
Edited at March 21, 2012 4:16 PM
March 21, 2012 4:18 PM - More4Less
benson, hope you remember all the fancy expensive consultant jargons from back in the days and put them to work
Edited at March 21, 2012 4:18 PM
March 21, 2012 4:19 PM - Slopefarm
Have at it, benson.

One rule of thumb I follow is never to buy investment products from insurance companies.
Edited at March 21, 2012 4:19 PM
March 21, 2012 4:19 PM - Donatella
My favorite toy was a Patty play pal. It was this e
Extremely large infant doll which I dressed up and
Pulled around on a sled.


Edited at March 21, 2012 4:19 PM
March 21, 2012 4:35 PM - Legion
slopefarm,
Agreed, Gingrich is tenacious and he holds a grudge.
He's a real political animal.
Edited at March 21, 2012 4:35 PM
March 21, 2012 4:37 PM - Arkady
In Ireland it's called, beef to the heel like a Mullingar heifer.
It was George III.
Those anti-inflamatory drugs can do major liver damage.
Edited at March 21, 2012 4:37 PM
March 21, 2012 4:38 PM - rf
Trayvon Martin. 17 years old. Walking while black.
Edited at March 21, 2012 4:38 PM
March 21, 2012 4:40 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
yeah that is an awful story RF. sad for him. ive unfortunately know what it's like to be walking while gay. of course no one's shot me in the face.
yet



*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 4:40 PM
March 21, 2012 4:40 PM - Legion
Good luck benson!

Donatella,
I read the good news that you are turning the corner on the physical therapy.
I hope the swelling is improving and pain decreasing.
March 21, 2012 4:44 PM - Arkady
The Trayvon story is truly hideous. Why isn't that murderer in jail instead of being protected by a warped law?
Edited at March 21, 2012 4:43 PM
March 21, 2012 4:44 PM - Slopefarm
yeah, rf, that's some law they got in FL. You can stalk someone, stalk a pedestrian by car, get out and face them, and then when they turn to you, unarmed, and ask you why you are following them and then don't go away when you ask them to, you can shoot them to kill and assert self-defense in court.

Actually, I don't think you can legally do that, as you really have no ground to stand, but the police interpeted it that way.
Edited at March 21, 2012 4:44 PM
March 21, 2012 4:49 PM - Arkady
We should bring back lynching for that bastard.
March 21, 2012 4:49 PM - DeLepp
"The Trayvon story is truly hideous. Why isn't that murderer in jail instead of being protected by a warped law?"

It's Florida.
Edited at March 21, 2012 4:49 PM
March 21, 2012 4:50 PM - Slopefarm
Well, lynching is basically what he did. I'm all for rule of law -- this is a law that subverts it.
Edited at March 21, 2012 4:50 PM
March 21, 2012 4:53 PM - Legion
The FBI is now involved.
Sounds like an indictment is sure to come out of it.

Cases like this should automatically be investigated outside the county level.
Too much room for local "connections" to let justice slip.

Any news on the shootings in France at that religious school?
I thought they were closing in on the suspect.
Edited at March 21, 2012 4:53 PM
March 21, 2012 5:00 PM - rf
There's a standoff between the suspect and the police:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/22/world/europe/toulouse-shootings-suspects-house-raided-by-french-police.html?hp
A 23-year-old Frenchman of Algerian descent claimed responsibility on Wednesday for the methodical killings of four men and three children in this region over the past 10 days, officials said, after barricading himself in a small apartment building in Toulouse surrounded by hundreds of police officers.

The French authorities said he had traveled to Pakistan and Afghanistan, called himself a mujahedeen, or freedom fighter, and had been under surveillance for several years.
March 21, 2012 5:07 PM - dibs
The Toulouse incident speaks to the need for more racial profiling. I'm sure it'll be ramped up in France but not here in politically correct USA
Edited at March 21, 2012 5:07 PM
March 21, 2012 5:07 PM - petebklyn
lot of nutty people walking around in this world. good thing there is an OT to keep some of them indoors and out of real trouble.
Edited at March 21, 2012 5:07 PM
March 21, 2012 5:08 PM - dibs
I was just walking through Fulton Park and two guys were arguing with each other, calling each other names. Guess what I was reminded of.
Edited at March 21, 2012 5:08 PM
March 21, 2012 5:09 PM - Legion
...did they happen to have cankles?
Edited at March 21, 2012 5:09 PM
March 21, 2012 5:14 PM - dibs
I didn't look. Nor did I check out their asses. They weren't my type. Neither was a nurse, I'm sure.
Edited at March 21, 2012 5:14 PM
March 21, 2012 5:17 PM - Slopefarm
"two guys were arguing with each other, calling each other names. Guess what I was reminded of."

Let's see . . . . hmm . . . .

dibs and minard?
dibs and what?
dibs and . . . .

Edited at March 21, 2012 5:17 PM
March 21, 2012 5:18 PM - Donatella
Tks, Legion. My doctor is "pleased".

Fl story is shocking.
Edited at March 21, 2012 5:18 PM
March 21, 2012 5:21 PM - Slopefarm
"The Toulouse incident speaks to the need for more racial profiling."

but
"The French authorities said he . . . had been under surveillance for several years."

Profiling would have made no difference here.
Edited at March 21, 2012 5:21 PM
March 21, 2012 5:22 PM - rf
In Memoriam...
Edited at March 21, 2012 5:22 PM
March 21, 2012 5:23 PM - dibs
Well, if he was under surveillance for several years, someone was asleep at the switch. C'est domage.
Edited at March 21, 2012 5:23 PM
March 21, 2012 5:25 PM - Legion
Feel good video for all the cat people.
Zookeepers get some unique perks:

http://www.msn.com/?ocid=iehp
Edited at March 21, 2012 5:25 PM
March 21, 2012 5:27 PM - Slopefarm
. . .
benson and cobble
benson and slopey
benson and bx
benson and montrose
benson and dona
cobble and rob
bx and legion
legion and slopey
jackal and cobble
jackal and slopey
jackal and montrose

um, who else ?
cgar and delepp
rob and everyone else at the same time

Dibs, I give up. Difficult to narrow it down, apparently.

Edited at March 21, 2012 5:27 PM
March 21, 2012 5:28 PM - Deleted
As I have discovered first-hand, the Israelis apply profiling at their airports. I applaud them. They are not fooling around.

On one trip from JFK to Tel Aviv, they really gave me a work-up. They took everyhting out of my luggage and carry-on bag, down to lint balls. After I was checked out and my bags repacked, they escorted me to the plane, to make sure I had no interaction with anyone in the airport prior to my boarding.

I never made it to the "cavity search" level, however.
March 21, 2012 5:29 PM - Legion
Damn,
the video link goes straight to MSN.com news.
It's supposed to link to the story about the zookeeper with 4 or 5 lion cubs hugging and nuzzling with him.
Edited at March 21, 2012 5:29 PM
March 21, 2012 5:30 PM - Deleted
"benson and cobble
benson and slopey
benson and bx
benson and montrose
benson and dona"

I notice a pattern in there.
Edited at March 21, 2012 5:30 PM
March 21, 2012 5:32 PM - Slopefarm
benson -- but it is a complex psychological and contextual profiling. I am sure race, national origin, context of trip are part of the mix, along with how questions are answered, demeanor, luggage, they are highly trained and looking for subtle clues. But it's not like they looked at your cruise tan and thought "hey, arab, off the plane!!"
Edited at March 21, 2012 5:32 PM
March 21, 2012 5:33 PM - Slopefarm
"I notice a pattern in there."

LOL. Well, perhaps a theme within the larger pattern. But the point was not to single you out at all.
Edited at March 21, 2012 5:33 PM
March 21, 2012 5:34 PM - rf
Benson, why do you think you were profiled? When I went to Israel, I was taken to an area with many partitioned booths and patted down by a female soldier. They are equal-opportunity searchers. It's not like there aren't blue-eyed blonde terrorists.
Edited at March 21, 2012 5:33 PM
March 21, 2012 5:45 PM - Slopefarm
Night, all.
Edited at March 21, 2012 5:44 PM
March 21, 2012 5:49 PM - Slope4Eva
I saw that clip with the cubs on the news this morning, absolutely adorable.
Edited at March 21, 2012 5:49 PM
March 21, 2012 5:49 PM - dibs
Early to bed and early to rise....
March 21, 2012 6:03 PM - petebklyn
they saw place of residence-- brooklyn, ny. obvious trouble maker. even the jewish israeli terrorists are from brooklyn.
Edited at March 21, 2012 6:03 PM
March 21, 2012 6:22 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i was profiled on three seperate days at the train station at 125th street. they let hundreds of people pass each of those three days and yet asked me to look in my bag. um what? they had cops at tables at that station for like a month, i hardly EVER saw anyone getting their bags checked. i do wonder what they were looking for, i do sometimes give off strange energy around perceived authority figures, but that was weird. i think they just happened to like my bag perhaps. of COURSE after it happened three times i filled my bag with as much random crazy junk as i could find and never got searched again! thinking back now it was just twice at that station, and once at shae (citifield?) stadium. still twice is a lot. this is why i dont fly, im sorry but i cant be asked for such invasion of privacy like that. at least with the subway searches (havent seen it in a while tho) you can refuse (but doesnt that send a red flag?)

*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 6:22 PM
March 21, 2012 6:32 PM - sixyearsandcounting
The French-Algerian also killed a fellow Frenchman of Arab ancestry, and a Frenchman of African descent, before he went on a rampage killing Jews. It wasn't immediately evident that the perp was Muslim so profiling wouldn't have helped here.
Edited at March 21, 2012 6:32 PM
March 21, 2012 6:36 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Rf, they aren't equal-opportunity - any connection to the Arab world gets one searched. On my one trip through Ben Gurion Airport my bags were taken apart because I lived in Dubai at the time. I nearly missed my flight. My Israeli travel companion was whisked through without a hitch. I got off pretty easy given what some of my other Middle East Studies friends have gone through, not to mention Palestinian and other Arab friends - most of them just fly through Amman, Jordan to avoid the hassle.
March 21, 2012 6:45 PM - Deleted
Rf;

I was profiled because I could pass for an Arab (in fact, I'm more often taken for being Arabic than Italian). The fact that they saw that I've been to Malaysia a few times added to their suspicion.

Slopey: I agree that it is not a simple "one cut" profile. Nevertheless, they DO take race/ethnic background into consideration, and I applaud tham for that. As I'm sure you know, El Al's flights have been incident-free for many years.
Edited at March 21, 2012 6:45 PM
March 21, 2012 6:45 PM - rf
No surprise there, Six. The last time I was in Israel was a long time ago--I still lived in Park Slope so it's more than 20 years. I think things are much more polarized now.
Edited at March 21, 2012 6:45 PM
March 21, 2012 6:48 PM - Deleted
Haha benson. I've also witnessed you being mistaken for puerto rican
Edited at March 21, 2012 6:48 PM
March 21, 2012 6:50 PM - sixyearsandcounting
http://bzeines.wordpress.com/2012/03/16/kid-writes-most-epic-letter-ever-to-tv-weatherman/

Dear Mr. Ramon,

Thank you for coming to our school and teaching us about weather.

Some day when I become supreme Ultra-Lord of the universe I will not make you a slave, you will live in my 200 story castle where unicorn servants will feed you doughnuts off their horns.

I will personally make you a throne that is half platnum and half solid gold and jewel encrested.

Thank you again for teaching us about meteoroligy, you’re more awesome than a monkey wearing a tuxedo made out bacon riding a cyborg unicorn with a lightsaber for the horn on the tip of a space shuttle closing in on Mars while ingulfed in flames … And in case you didn’t know, that’s pretty dang sweet.

Sincerely, Flint.
Edited at March 21, 2012 6:50 PM
March 21, 2012 7:31 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
benson, jackal and rob. Ok, I'll take that since they have to be the 3 most aggravating people on here! : P (Peace, love and STFU!)
Edited at March 21, 2012 7:31 PM
March 21, 2012 7:46 PM - petebklyn
Who do they find the most aggravating?
Edited at March 21, 2012 7:46 PM
March 21, 2012 7:48 PM - petebklyn
Im using one of those iPad.touches whatever. I don't understand the appeal other than transportability.....but typing and surfing suck.
Edited at March 21, 2012 7:48 PM
March 21, 2012 7:48 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
You people have been slacking on the kitty pics...don't think I haven't noticed.
Edited at March 21, 2012 7:48 PM
March 21, 2012 7:51 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"Who do they find the most aggravating?"

HA! What are you insinuating, Pete? Moi? Certainly not! : P
Edited at March 21, 2012 7:51 PM
March 21, 2012 7:57 PM - rf
here you go, Snappy.
Edited at March 21, 2012 7:57 PM
March 21, 2012 7:58 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i dont really let myself get aggravated by other people. not good for one's mental hygiene and health!

*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 7:58 PM
March 21, 2012 7:59 PM - rf
or how about this one?
March 21, 2012 8:00 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
well, rf, according the snappy her cats are man-haters. and my dog isn't particularly fond of white women between the ages of 20 and 40. even animals have their biases.

*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 8:00 PM
March 21, 2012 8:04 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
LOL RF! Love the last one!
Edited at March 21, 2012 8:04 PM
March 21, 2012 8:06 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Perhaps Mr. Bu has been eating Thin Mints as well...
Edited at March 21, 2012 8:05 PM
March 21, 2012 8:06 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
He's a whopping 12lbs!
Edited at March 21, 2012 8:06 PM
March 21, 2012 8:10 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Well, I guess I now know why there were a zillion police at Union Square today. There was a demonstration for Trayvon. I'm only sorry I didn't know. I would have stayed and worn my hoodie. : (
Edited at March 21, 2012 8:20 PM
March 21, 2012 8:32 PM - CGar
"um, who else ?
cgar and delepp"

No, Sloppy, Howdy Doody and I only fight in jest.

Edited at March 21, 2012 8:32 PM
March 21, 2012 9:04 PM - jessibaby
Coworker today was feeling guilty about using a disposable spoon everyday for her lunch. I had to really bite my tounge - all I wanted to say was that if she was really worried about being green, she wouldn't have birthed a human. I kept my trap shut on that point and instead said she shouldn't feel bad since she doesn't drive.
Edited at March 21, 2012 9:04 PM
March 21, 2012 9:36 PM - rf
You and rob...don't you know we need people younger than us to pay into social security? To take care of us in the old-age home? The only reason the population of the U.S. is growing is because of immigration--the birthrate is not enough to replace the dying.
Edited at March 21, 2012 9:36 PM
March 21, 2012 9:39 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
OMG! I forgot to have kids! ; )
Edited at March 21, 2012 9:39 PM
March 21, 2012 9:42 PM - Slopefarm
I know that, ceegar. Do I have to type a winking emoticon every time?

Benson, I saw your response on the profile thing. I don't think we're disagreeing.
Edited at March 21, 2012 9:42 PM
March 21, 2012 9:44 PM - Donatella

It seemed for a while, I was getting profiled more than others. Maybe I was just annoyed, but I remember once in London getting profiled several times for the same flight. At security. Had to open everything (always good to pack neatly on the way home too). I got the full body feel up and feel down. Then they set up a second check before going into the actual gate area, where again I was fully searched (all stuff taken out of suitcase and handbag) and got the pat down. I was pissed but found out afterward that there was a heightened alert going on. It may have been too, that I purchased the tickets to and from from different carriers. I don't know. But I thought that was a bit much.
Edited at March 21, 2012 9:44 PM
March 21, 2012 9:46 PM - rf
You don't have to, individually, but no sense discouraging others! Of course I didn't have my kid, I imported her (so to speak)!
Edited at March 21, 2012 9:46 PM
March 21, 2012 9:48 PM - Donatella

Once I was tearing around and some mishap or other meant I was almost going to miss a flight. The check-in lady said "no worries, we'll get you on this flight." She gives me a little slip of paper with a bunch of code and a yellow highlighted line of unintelligible letters. When I got to the gate, huffing and puffing, the person taking tickets said softly
"are you armed?" "Excuse me?" "Are you carrying a firearm?"

I realized that somehow my express treatment was understood by the people at the gate to mean I was a US Marshall. I thought that was pretty cool. The polar opposite of the usual shabby treatment I seem to get.

Le Femme Nikita!
Edited at March 21, 2012 9:48 PM
March 21, 2012 9:52 PM - Donatella

ha! I didn't know how to respond to that, rf. Glad you did! Taken to its logical end, being green then means not polluting the earth with the human race. The ultimate green-ness would be a deserted planet with peaceful trees and water and plants and animals. No humans.
Edited at March 21, 2012 9:52 PM
March 21, 2012 9:56 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Ha! DonaT, that reminds me of when I crossed the Israeli-controlled border from Jordan to the West Bank. I was asked all sorts of questions by different guards, went through three or four separate security checks, my bags were scanned, etc. Where are you staying? Have you been to any Arab countries? What's the purpose of your visit? List your friends in Israel...ok, list them again...This took about half an hour. Finally I was ready to head out to the buses, and the last guard before the exit stopped me and asked "Do you have a weapon?"
March 21, 2012 9:56 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
still doesnt negate the fact that having children is the most unGREEN thing you can to the Earth. that's why i scoff and roll my eyes when people with children get all uppity about their supposed "greenness"

*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 9:56 PM
March 21, 2012 9:58 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
and LOL @ our current generation supporting us olds in our old age thru social security.. you dont REALLY believe that, do you?! trust me, we're all 2 decades shy of being our own soylent greens

*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 9:58 PM
March 21, 2012 10:03 PM - Donatella
So green-ness = hatred of and desire for the elimination of the human race? Just keep the trees, birds and the ocean. Some philosophy.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:03 PM
March 21, 2012 10:03 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
no i never said that. personally i dont give one shit about the planet. but i dont like when other people get all holier than thou about it and conveniently ignore their own fungusey carbon footprint. it's about calling out the hypocrites! i'd be SHOCKED if there were no bathrooms in the park slope food-coop! ::obligatory shit reference just for you and slopey::

*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 10:03 PM
March 21, 2012 10:09 PM - Donatella

Six, my helping this Algerian girl has made me into some kind of a...... I don't know what...... with one of her male friends who I think proposed marriage to me last night. He is in hot pursuit and it is unnerving me. He is something like 20 years younger than me and assured me that the prophet fell in love with his wife who was 15 years older than him. He seems like a very sweet person but I had to be really blunt. NO THANKS. Either that or run with arms flailing for the hills!
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:09 PM
March 21, 2012 10:15 PM - Donatella

so *rob* what do bathrooms have to do with green-ness? BTW, you can use shit and other organic waste to be processed into either: ethanol (to be used for transportation fuel) or gas, which can be fed into a turbine to create electricity.

Shit is good. Shit is part of the green revolution! I did research on opportunities to transform animal waste on farms into power to run the farms. This is being done now! Also, garbage in landfill rots and you can get natural gas which can be used to cook your food, heat your house, or feed a power plant!

UP WITH SHIT!!!!
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:15 PM
March 21, 2012 10:19 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Speaking of sh*t, BH just noticed that we have leak in our bathroom ceiling! The good news is that it is dripping right into the sink. : (
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:19 PM
March 21, 2012 10:34 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
EW COBBLE! a poo mist geyser!!! call a plumber STAT!!!! in the meantime take out all toothbrushes and meds and stuff and saran wrap your sink and toilet seat cover. take down your shower curtains and fill the tub up with water and bleach and let it sit there over night!!! you have a biohazardous situation going on over there!

*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 10:34 PM
March 21, 2012 10:35 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
omg whenever you say BH from now on, im totally just gonna think BioHazard

*rob*

Edited at March 21, 2012 10:35 PM
March 21, 2012 10:43 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Calm down, rob, it's just water from the sink above us. Geezus. You are such a freak of nature sometimes.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:43 PM
March 21, 2012 10:47 PM - sixyearsandcounting
LOL DonaT. Well, he's right about the Prophet, but tell him you sure as hell ain't Khadija bint Khuwaylid (although she was an accomplished and respected businesswoman in her own right so perhaps the comparison isn't so bad!).
March 21, 2012 10:48 PM - jessibaby
Like Rob said, it's the hypocritical nature of the statement. I mean, you're worried about spoons when we're facing an overpopulation problem that actually threatens the long term sustainability of the species? I'm not saying don't have babies, I'm saying don't kid yourself about your carbon footprint if u do.
Edited at March 21, 2012 10:48 PM
March 21, 2012 10:51 PM - Arkady
Why can't she rinse off the plastic spoon so she doesn't use a new one every day anyway?
March 21, 2012 10:57 PM - jessibaby
The convo then devolved into how all three of us just couldn't seem to wash a coffee mug and always just used the paper cups. Low level depression is rampant at my firm and makes even easy tasks feel daunting.
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March 21, 2012 10:57 PM - Donatella
Six, he was bugging the girl for my number every day and she said, please just talk to him. I did and he told me "just think about it, take a week, two weeks, even three weeks". Whoa. By the way, the girl told me about Khadija too.
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March 21, 2012 10:58 PM - Donatella

Jessi, that girl needs counseling. lol.
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March 21, 2012 11:14 PM - sixyearsandcounting
"Even three weeks"...I wish it was so easy in our system!
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March 21, 2012 11:15 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
macaroni with expired kraft low fat french dressing isn't THAT bad i will say..

*rob*

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March 21, 2012 11:39 PM - Donatella
Definitely, Six.
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March 21, 2012 11:50 PM - lechacal
Evening
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