Tuesday Open Thread
February 14, 2012 7:24 AM - CGar

257 comments
February 14, 2012 7:49 AM - Kensingtonian
Am I finally first?
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#1
February 14, 2012 7:52 AM - CGar
Technically, I was first, Goat Boy. ;-)
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#2
February 14, 2012 8:01 AM - Kensingtonian
Yeah yeah yeah, go take care of your children shorty!
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#3
February 14, 2012 8:13 AM - dibs
GM
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#4
February 14, 2012 8:17 AM - Arkady
So'd you take the guys to Fairway?
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#5
February 14, 2012 8:18 AM - sixyearsandcounting
???? ????? ?? ??????
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#6
February 14, 2012 8:19 AM - petebklyn
STFU
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#7
February 14, 2012 8:27 AM - dibs
We'll have none of that talk here, six. This is a blog about America, specifically, Brooklyn, by Americans and for Americans.
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#8
February 14, 2012 8:31 AM - petebklyn
tell him. there is nothing for him here.
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#9
February 14, 2012 8:34 AM - dibs
He's probably watching al Jazeera right now, instead of CNBC. No place for that here.
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#10
February 14, 2012 8:35 AM - sixyearsandcounting
so you're saying that if I keep up with such posts, the terrorists will have won?
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#11
February 14, 2012 8:38 AM - Arkady
Tut-tut.
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#12
February 14, 2012 8:40 AM - petebklyn
damnasskiss-er
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#13
February 14, 2012 8:43 AM - dibs
Arkady, your baby pic looks a little fahtwaht happened?????
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#14
February 14, 2012 8:44 AM - More4Less
The dragon will roar again tonight in Toronto
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#15
February 14, 2012 8:46 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
I'm syria-ously confused by these posts.
#16
February 14, 2012 8:48 AM - Arkady
The photographer, Egypt me, dibs.
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#17
February 14, 2012 8:55 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Are you assad in that photo, Arkady?
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#18
February 14, 2012 8:57 AM - Arkady
Oman, CHiller. It was a rough day.
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#19
February 14, 2012 8:59 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
You sayin' egypt you, I'd throw a barack through his window.
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#20
February 14, 2012 9:02 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
In any case, you could sue him and he should take ba'ath for that.
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#21
February 14, 2012 9:05 AM - Arkady
Suni will be ousted.
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#22
February 14, 2012 9:07 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Shiite, that's gonna be rough.
#23
February 14, 2012 9:28 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
not today

*rob*

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#24
February 14, 2012 9:29 AM - Kensingtonian
So Snappy posts over there but not here anymore. Did she officially quit this blog?
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#25
February 14, 2012 9:31 AM - More4Less
Kens, she rather quit us then the death sticks
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#26
February 14, 2012 9:33 AM - DeLepp
REPOTD: http://tiny.cc/j3182
dibs, I think you will like this farmhouse. There is also a picture from 1919. The salmon color is terrific and that wall of windows is lovely.
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#27
February 14, 2012 9:37 AM - dibs
Uggghhhhh...doing address changes are a pain in the ass
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#28
February 14, 2012 9:38 AM - Donatella
So, market has been looking steady. Is it time Dubai?
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#29
February 14, 2012 9:41 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
can someone send flowers to my job so i dont feel like that only unloved loser here today? lol

*rob*

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#30
February 14, 2012 9:42 AM - dibs
WOW..lovely. Love all the windows in the back. That color looks to have too much red in it. i may have found what I'm looking for...Benjamin Moore's Oriole..

http://www.benjaminmoore.com/en-us/paint-color/oriole
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#31
February 14, 2012 9:43 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
"doing address changes are a pain in the ass"

I know!! We've still got two really important bills/docs that keep going to our old apt! Thank goodness we have a friend in the building who holds the mail for us.
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#32
February 14, 2012 9:45 AM - jessibaby
What is this place, a Jewish preschool? Can I get a Happy Valentines Day up in here?
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#33
February 14, 2012 9:45 AM - More4Less
Rob,

are the honeys in the office getting loads of flowers, baskets, cards, balloons, etc.?
#34
February 14, 2012 9:46 AM - DeLepp
oriole is a great color.

My next move is into an urn so not worried about address changes.
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#35
February 14, 2012 9:47 AM - More4Less
JB, that's for your man to say that to you. I don't want to risk a beat down as it might be viewed as encroaching on "his honey"
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#36
February 14, 2012 9:48 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Happy Valentine's Day, PLUSAs!

(Happy now, jessi, rob?)
#37
February 14, 2012 9:49 AM - jessibaby
Just a general greeting to the group would suffice.

Same as a Happy St. Pattys, etc.
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#38
February 14, 2012 9:49 AM - jessibaby
Thanks, Cobble. Very pretty!!

Now can you do it again but this time with some peonies?
#39
February 14, 2012 9:51 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
As a matter of fact, I can, and will...for jessibaby!
#40
February 14, 2012 9:51 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
dave do spend valentines day with a different boyfriend of yours everyyear? or do you schedule them all in blocks on this day?

*rob*

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#41
February 14, 2012 9:52 AM - Donatella
Happy Valentines Day, jessi.


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#42
February 14, 2012 9:52 AM - jessibaby
Awww, thanks, Cobble.

Good question, Rob. Makes you look jealous and petty, but still a good question.
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#43
February 14, 2012 9:53 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
And these are for my liberal friends... ; )
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#44
February 14, 2012 9:53 AM - jessibaby
Thanks, Dona. Same to you.
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#45
February 14, 2012 9:55 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
jealous and petty?! how so?

*rob*

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#46
February 14, 2012 9:56 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
cobbles those last flowers you posted look like vaginos!

*rob*

#47
February 14, 2012 9:58 AM - jessibaby
Jealous and petty in that I doubt a person who was content would bother to pose such a question.
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#48
February 14, 2012 9:59 AM - dibs
Valentines Day, like drinking on St Patrick's day, is for amateurs.


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#49
February 14, 2012 10:00 AM - jessibaby
That's one way to solve the problem, Dave!
#50
February 14, 2012 10:01 AM - rf
Rob, how do you know? Porn doesn't count.
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#51
February 14, 2012 10:04 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
How the hell would you know, rob? : P
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#52
February 14, 2012 10:08 AM - Arkady
CHiller - That was hilarious!
#53
February 14, 2012 10:09 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
so one can't know what something looks like if they've never actually seen one in person? that makes no sense. i didnt say what it smells or tastes like, i said what it looks like. supposedly they smell like tuna and taste like aluminum according to most reviews on the internet, so again why would i need actual experience to know?



*rob*

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#54
February 14, 2012 10:11 AM - Deleted
It's Valentines Day. Can we talk about romance, rather than body parts?

Happy Valentines Day!
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#55
February 14, 2012 10:12 AM - jessibaby
Thanks, Benson.

What are you doing for Mrs. Benson?
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#56
February 14, 2012 10:14 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
You're right, rob, I forgot, you've prolly seen one on the interwebs.
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#57
February 14, 2012 10:14 AM - Deleted
JB;

I took her and Bensonina out for dinner this past weekend. Both of us don't like to go out on Valentine's Day itself, due to the crowds. Tonight it will be a card and flowers.
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#58
February 14, 2012 10:16 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
valentines day is the best day to pass restaurant windows and make faces at people dining inside. and that hand gesture where you make a circle with your fingers with one hand and poke a finger from your other hand in and out of it.

*rob*

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#59
February 14, 2012 10:16 AM - jessibaby
Very nice. My dad used to get me a little heart shaped box of candy from this store that no longer exists. He'd get the same sized box for my brother and then the big one for my mom.
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#60
February 14, 2012 10:18 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
And this heart is for Arkady, since I 'tormented' her with veggie hearts last night...
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#61
February 14, 2012 10:18 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
your dad gave valentines to your brother? :-/ your brother is the screwed up one, right?
(you did say that one time here..)

*rob*

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#62
February 14, 2012 10:19 AM - Arkady
Much better, CHiller; thanks.
#63
February 14, 2012 10:20 AM - jessibaby
Yes, Rob, a dad giving candy to his son is disturbing indeed...wouldve made more sense to give to everyone else and let him sit there without a treat.
#64
February 14, 2012 10:21 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
well i think on some level it IS disturbing. that, and it totally devalues the other valentines to other people

*rob*

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#65
February 14, 2012 10:21 AM - Deleted
JB's dad sounds like a nice guy to me, to think of all his children on this holiday.
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#66
February 14, 2012 10:23 AM - Arkady
Eros, philos & agape - all forms of love can be honored on this day.
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#67
February 14, 2012 10:24 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
My mom used to give each of us kids a little heart shaped box of chocolates and a book on Valentine's Day. Then my father would take Mom out to dinner sans kids.
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#68
February 14, 2012 10:26 AM - Donatella

My father was slightly spaced out. He forgot a lot of things and when we got older we would remind him of key dates and go shopping with him to buy nice gifts for my mother. No man is perfect.
#69
February 14, 2012 10:26 AM - More4Less
It's been a long while since I gave flowers, card, and/or candy for Valentine. I usually give a gift before Valentine and repeat "I don't need no stupid holiday of some sort to remind/incent me to say I love you hon" line. The other reasons is stuff is jacked up price-wise for Valentines and that's counter to Chinaman core values to pay those prices.
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#70
February 14, 2012 10:28 AM - Deleted
My father wasn't good at those types of things too.
#71
February 14, 2012 10:30 AM - Donatella
I don't need no stinkin'Valentine's Day.....haha..
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#72
February 14, 2012 10:34 AM - jessibaby
To me, Valentines day is like any other holiday - could take it or leave it. But if you "leave" too many things, you aren't left with much. Makes me feel more alive, engaged, to get a bit involved with most holidays.
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#73
February 14, 2012 10:34 AM - Deleted
Somehow, I don't think that *Rob* and M4L are into the spirit of Valentine's Day. They are to Valentine's Day what Lech is to Christmas.
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#74
February 14, 2012 10:37 AM - More4Less
Benson, the valentine-like treatment is for the wedding anniversary or 1st date etc. No way, I would let a holiday outshine the royal treatment my wife would get for those key anniversary dates. if you don't think so, you're losing lots of old school points in my eyes
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#75
February 14, 2012 10:38 AM - Cobble B. Hiller
Oh I bet lech LOVESLOVESLOVES Valentine's Day, too. NOT! : P
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#76
February 14, 2012 10:39 AM - dibs
No one is having buttsecks on Valentine's Day?????
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#77
February 14, 2012 10:40 AM - More4Less
Plus wife is very giddy when she gets her valentine gift even though it's not on valentine's day - ie nice jacket, handbag, jewelry etc STILL has its impact even if given on a different date
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#78
February 14, 2012 10:40 AM - More4Less
DIBS, do you GIVE it on Valentines or still RECEIVING it as usual?
#79
February 14, 2012 10:41 AM - Arkady
If you're concerned about hiked costs, why not buy it earlier but not give it to her until the day?
#80
February 14, 2012 10:42 AM - More4Less
Arkady, how does one do that with flowers?
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#81
February 14, 2012 10:43 AM - More4Less
silk flowers?
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#82
February 14, 2012 10:46 AM - More4Less
plus wife not that into it. I'm whipped so if wife was dead set on it, I would've appeased her. gifts been getting easier the last few years - ie she's been very predictable in what she wants - spa treatment stuff.
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#83
February 14, 2012 10:47 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
DIBS, do you GIVE it

lol

*rob*

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#84
February 14, 2012 10:50 AM - Deleted
M4L;

It's not what I think about the holiday that's important, it's what my wife thinks about it. To her, it's an important holiday and it has a different meaning than an anniversary. If a small token of romance makes her feel great, that's what I'm going to do.
#85
February 14, 2012 10:59 AM - More4Less
Benson, that too is my stance - appease wife. Wife views anniversary far more than valentine's hence the bigger royal treatment on anniversaries which can become a problem as it's easier to remember Valentine's than all these key anniversary dates - ie the smartphone reminders help but have to assume old age will get me later on with forgetting even to set the reminders.
#86
February 14, 2012 11:07 AM - Arkady
Flowers are members of the vegetable family: chocolates don't go off.
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#87
February 14, 2012 11:10 AM - dibs
Arkady, if they have seeds, they are fruits. We've been over this many times before. You, of all people, should know.
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#88
February 14, 2012 11:17 AM - More4Less
Arkady, how's the samsung treating you so far since the powercord issue?
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#89
February 14, 2012 11:19 AM - MontroseMorris
Happy Valentine's Day, everyone!

If you've got someone special, give them a hug and a kiss. It's very nice to be loved.

DeLepp, I really like the wall o' windows in that house, but not much else. I guess because it's Bedford, it's megabux, but seems like a ridiculous amount of money for not much. Truth told, I'm also not that big a fan of Federal architecture.
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#90
February 14, 2012 11:20 AM - dibs
"Truth told, I'm also not that big a fan of Federal architecture."

WOW, the most classic lines in all America. I think we shall part as friends from this point forward.

:-P
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#91
February 14, 2012 11:22 AM - Donatella
This warm winter is messing with everything. Daffodils were starting to come up in the back yard. Cherry blossoms were out last week on little cherry tree in a neighbor's front yard.
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#92
February 14, 2012 11:23 AM - More4Less
if I can pick a style for a custom build house, it would be a craftsman house or the other extreme - a Modern Glass Box
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#93
February 14, 2012 11:24 AM - More4Less
Donatella, God is doing you a favor with this warm weather - ie so you don't have to deal with digging car out of snow with your one hand
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#94
February 14, 2012 11:25 AM - dibs
I would have preferred to have had at least some snow this winter.
#95
February 14, 2012 11:27 AM - rf
DIBS, when are you leaving your house in Bed-Stuy?
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#96
February 14, 2012 11:28 AM - dibs
Not until the end of march
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#97
February 14, 2012 11:34 AM - DeLepp
A friend has a craftsman in Austin, that house flows quite nicely. Deceptively large as well.
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#98
February 14, 2012 11:36 AM - Donatella
How right you are M4L. So true. The hand is getting better. The problem is not the wrist which is healing, it is the fingers. Bad stuff happens to the tendons when the hand is immobilized. I am just wondering if these flowers are not going to really bloom in spring???
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#99
February 14, 2012 11:39 AM - MontroseMorris
DIBS, we're friends?? ;)

To clarify, I do like the simple lines of the buildings, and the openness of many Federal rooms, as well as some of the woodwork, but I much prefer the later natural woodwork style houses of about 100 years later. Although, to be fair, some of that gets ridiculous in its excess. I'm not a fan of High Victorian fussiness. My favorite houses have the woodwork, stained glass and the goodies I like, along with large open rooms with tall ceilings.
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February 14, 2012 11:40 AM - Donatella
There are craftsman houses all over Kansas City MO. They have a really comfortable feel. Low ceilings generally though, but it works. The city basically built up in the 1920s and there are many of them. Also a lot of craftsman style houses with stone . They have or had a lot of stone quarries there and there are stone houses, fences buildings of all kinds....
February 14, 2012 11:42 AM - MontroseMorris
I would be very happy living at Olana.
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February 14, 2012 11:43 AM - lechacal
I fart in the general direction of valentines day.
February 14, 2012 11:45 AM - lechacal
Howard Roark was right about architecture.

Historic detail should be smashed.
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February 14, 2012 11:45 AM - MontroseMorris
I like Craftsman houses, except many of the bungalows have ceilings that are too low. I do like the aesthetic. It's one of my favorite periods for decorative objects, especially lighting, metal work and furniture.

Too many people tend to slavishly reproduce a period room, which looks too contrived, and usually is way too dark. You need to know what you are doing in these houses.
February 14, 2012 11:48 AM - Slopefarm
I see I missed Eilat of puns this morning. Happy Valentine's Day, all!!
February 14, 2012 11:49 AM - lechacal
They should just call valentines day give money to a woman day.

Instead of buying flowers and dinner, one should just wire a sum of money to the designated female's bank account.

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February 14, 2012 11:52 AM - More4Less
I like all those build-in benches, bookshelves, etc that one sees with craftsman houses
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February 14, 2012 11:53 AM - MontroseMorris
Me, too M4L. Love built-ins.
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February 14, 2012 11:56 AM - dibs
"They should just call valentines day give money to a woman day."

Or a guy.
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February 14, 2012 11:56 AM - Donatella
Agree MM re Craftsman houses, but also about slavish reproductions of period rooms. A house is for 21st century living.

Lech, perfect. Monty Python. My favorite movie of theirs too. Liked the horse trotting coconut scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzcLQRXW6B0
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February 14, 2012 11:59 AM - Slopefarm
"I fart in the general direction"

I've been to the castle where John Cleese uttered those immortal words.
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February 14, 2012 12:01 PM - jessibaby
Rob, you still thinking Barcade in WB for Saturday night?
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February 14, 2012 12:02 PM - Donatella
French insults.....I fart in your general direction.....I wave my private parts at your aunties.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7zbWNznbs
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February 14, 2012 12:04 PM - More4Less
I hope my breath isn't as bad as my tongue feels eating this sichuan shredded beef with peppers
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February 14, 2012 12:06 PM - Kensingtonian
I had vday plans but am sick today with a flu or cold. Going home now and gonna stay in bed and recover :o/
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February 14, 2012 12:09 PM - More4Less
Kens, whimp!!!!!!!!!!! J/K.
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February 14, 2012 12:13 PM - Slopefarm
"Go away, or I shall taunt you again!!"
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February 14, 2012 12:22 PM - lechacal
"They should just call valentines day give money to a woman day."

"Or a guy."

What't the point of being gay if you get the worst of both worlds?? You get the female needy valentines day expectations and all they have to offer in return is ass and dick? I've always kind of thought gays were onto something because they avoid a lot of the hassle, but now I'm not so sure.

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February 14, 2012 12:25 PM - Deleted
While you were all plathering away, I updated my Linked-In profile. Shined it up, and I'm ready to go!
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February 14, 2012 12:31 PM - More4Less
Mr Benson, "I would like to tell you about our specials for the week with the core routers and optical amplifiers etc. all you have to do is COD prior to end of March." - ie when you sitting in cush procurement gig with KING of SEARCH
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February 14, 2012 12:33 PM - petebklyn
"A house is for 21st century living." -- what do you know about the 21st century? you think you're some expert?

maybe gays just alternate the giver on valentines.

Hahaha, Cuomo was very smart to push for gay marriage....friend of mine said just did his taxes....single federals,
that phoney federal so they could do state taxes as married....and he calculated NYstate taxes would be cheaper if single. Maybe that is way to get passed in other states......republicans would love to soak the gays for more tax revenue.

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February 14, 2012 12:34 PM - Slopefarm
Good luck benson! How much longer are you at your current job?
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February 14, 2012 12:36 PM - Deleted
Slopey;

Actually, I don't know. I haven't been officially informed, just tipped-off. My guess is sometime next week.
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February 14, 2012 12:40 PM - petebklyn
prove your mettle, benson. you're a salesman. sell them that need to keep NY presence and you can do it....
offer them cheap rent for your office(a desk in corner of a room in your condo) in fashionable park slope ($4000 month should do it)...and all you need is one assistant on payroll (your wife).
Edited at February 14, 2012 12:40 PM
February 14, 2012 12:40 PM - Arkady
Just got cable on Sat,m4l. Loving the laptop noe at long last.
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February 14, 2012 12:45 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Rob, you still thinking Barcade in WB for Saturday night?

nah. i decided to cancel the re-do of my birthday.

*rob*

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February 14, 2012 12:46 PM - petebklyn
ciao, I'm off to airport. leaving on a jetplane. next post from ft lauderdale.
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February 14, 2012 1:04 PM - Slopefarm
[Imagining Pete and Lesbi at the Vista View]
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February 14, 2012 1:07 PM - Deleted
Pete;

One cannot swim against the tide. The Japanese's days as an "export machine" are over.

Since I am a mercenary, however, I've already located an opportunity: the same position working for a Chinese company, in the same area (telecom). I have contacts there too. Goodbye Japan - Hellllooooo, China!
February 14, 2012 1:11 PM - More4Less
Benson, Pete might be joking but there's lots of merit to his suggestion of making pitch for NYC presence. You an SVP vs. some entry person which they might not be comfortable letting you operation here UNWATCHED. and unless your firm has no interest in dealing with the customers you cover, no reason to not keep you around. at worst, you offer a salary reduction and/or demotion and you can keep your gig which comes with great perk (no more daily commute to westchester but just the occasional one up to new office for some meetings)
Edited at February 14, 2012 1:11 PM
February 14, 2012 1:12 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
[Imagining view, over Pete and Lesbi's feet, of the ocean!]
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February 14, 2012 1:13 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Recommendations for Coffee Maker, please! [Ours 'bit the dust'.]
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February 14, 2012 1:21 PM - Deleted
M4L;

That's basically what I've been trying to do for the past 2.5 years. I sensed that this day was coming, and tried to sell myself to the new regime. I even managed to get a new psotion about 1 year ago, wherein my specific charter was to develop new lines of business. I was swimming against too strong a tide, however:

-Japanese have priced themselves out of a lot of markets;
-New overall company business strategy was to return to core business, i.e. no need for business development guy;
-Last, but not least: I lost all of my patrons back in Japan. They either retired or were kicked out by the new regime.
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February 14, 2012 1:26 PM - Donatella
Also for NYC presence, there are lots of ways to set up an office, other than your apartment. There are many very nice office complexes which provide office space, phone systems, receptionists, meeting rooms at a reasonable cost. As a sales person, you have less of a connection to manufacturing and brick and mortar. You need to be well integrated with the head office -- networking via cloud, skype, virtual meetings and regular visits to home office but you do not have to be there.
Edited at February 14, 2012 1:26 PM
February 14, 2012 1:29 PM - Donatella
Re NYC presence, I am referring to that as a possibility for a new job. Many employers are more flexible about location than they were before.

And good for you to recognize the trend. Nothing worse than fighting the inevitable.
Edited at February 14, 2012 1:29 PM
February 14, 2012 1:30 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
cobble, this makes an excellent cup of coffee

Edited at February 14, 2012 1:30 PM
February 14, 2012 1:31 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
and it goes well with most countertops



Edited at February 14, 2012 1:31 PM
February 14, 2012 1:35 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Cute, rob, but since BH makes the coffee most mornings, I'm not sure he'll 'appreciate' it as much as we do! : P
February 14, 2012 1:35 PM - More4Less
benson, hope that chinese firm is better with peeps here than they are with peeps in China. In China, they would hire real good peeps from big established firm then fire them after they drain all the useful knowledge out of them. Their bonuses in China are huge as they've been kicking ass big time.
Edited at February 14, 2012 1:35 PM
February 14, 2012 1:37 PM - Deleted
"Nothing worse than fighting the inevitable"

I'd say the only thing worse is fighting a consensus reached by the Japanese, and I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. That is why, though I don't know what the future holds, I feel liberated. So many years of "let me check with Tokyo" can wear a person down. I had to constantly remind myself that I needed the money for my family (the Japanese do pay well).
Edited at February 14, 2012 1:37 PM
February 14, 2012 1:46 PM - jessibaby
Looks like Mr. B added a pinterest thingy.

For the uninitiated:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinterest
February 14, 2012 1:50 PM - Donatella
It is wearing when you know that the decisions do not make sense from a profitability perspective but from:

1) Life or death need for saving face on the part of one or some senior executives.
2) Sublimation of the need for making money to some unseen but alive need for creating a cohesive commune like pod.
You know you don't benefit directly from the indulgence Japanese grant one another when they "play the game". the
"amae" because you are a gaijin.
3) Some social anachronism that dates back to the Black ship.

I think I have finally detoxed from my experience at Monster Trading Company for which I worked. There was a crisis on the enterprise level (not us directly) and I got to see how senior executives act under extreme duress. It wasn't pretty.
Edited at February 14, 2012 1:50 PM
February 14, 2012 1:51 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
complicated careers sound awful. for most people i think it's better to be happy and poor.

*rob*

February 14, 2012 1:54 PM - Slopefarm
jb -- I didn't notice the Pinterest thingy. I tried to comment over there just now on the Gowanus frame house listed in 5 biggest sales (!!!???). My comment was being held for review by the moderator. I think it is because I used the "s" word.
February 14, 2012 1:54 PM - Donatella
It's the way the world is, *rob*. It has nothing to do with being unhappy necessarily. It's pretty unhappy when you can't take care of yourself or your family. Poverty of spirit is wonderful, but being broke sucks. I think you make that case often.
Edited at February 14, 2012 1:54 PM
February 14, 2012 2:06 PM - rf
Cobble, I have this coffeemaker:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hamilton-Beach-6-cup-BrewStation-Coffeemaker-48274/10715961
It does the job, brews strong, hot coffee. I usually brew 4 cups at a time (actually 2 mugs); the second one stays hot for 2 hours without burning. It's cheap-cheap-cheap and I actually use fewer scoops of coffee than indicated. Of course just because there's no carafe doesn't mean you don't have to clean the top part that holds the coffee but it's pretty easy. I use 4-cup flat-bottom filters.
Edited at February 14, 2012 2:06 PM
February 14, 2012 2:15 PM - Slopefarm
Wow, just checked in on 538 blog. Unless the dynamic changes. each of the three top GOP contenders is polling ahead in at least one major state -- Gingrich in Georgia, Santorum in Michigan and Romney in Arizona, with quite the toss-up so far in Ohio. This is not going to end on Super Tuesday. Time to reorder popcorn.
Edited at February 14, 2012 2:15 PM
February 14, 2012 2:25 PM - Kensingtonian
I like to have a challenging career where some thought takes place. If I had to sit there doing filing all day or billing like I did in high school and college, I think I would shoot myself in the face.

Having said that, I am a bit of old school Benson style in regards to me doing just about any legal job to provide for my family, including physical labor. I've done just about every crap job and nothing is beneath me.
Edited at February 14, 2012 2:25 PM
February 14, 2012 2:30 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I'd be happy doing filing and billing/clerical work right now. If it would mean a steady paycheck, it'd make the day go by faster and be less stressful.
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February 14, 2012 2:32 PM - Arkady
CHiller - I have a cheap-o coffee maker. If I were to buy one I want I think it'd be Capresso but they're dear.
Edited at February 14, 2012 2:32 PM
February 14, 2012 2:36 PM - dibs
Back from lunch.
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February 14, 2012 2:37 PM - Donatella
Kens: ......doing just about any legal job to provide for my family, including physical labor. I've done just about every crap job and nothing is beneath me.

I can't tell you how much I respect that attitude.
Edited at February 14, 2012 2:37 PM
February 14, 2012 2:39 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I'm thinking around or under $100. rf, we need the kind with the carafe, I think. The lower end Capresso looks like what we want. We had a Cuisinart CM, but it just died.
February 14, 2012 2:40 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
you have kids ken? you can't automatically assume that once you have kids youll just do anything to provide for them. lots of people want kids at first and then realize they are a pains in the ass and a ginormous financial burden (unless you work the system then they are little pots 'o' gold..)


*rob*

February 14, 2012 2:41 PM - dibs
I think if I had a government/civil service job, despite all th benefits and the vacation time and the pension, i would have committted suicide
Edited at February 14, 2012 2:41 PM
February 14, 2012 2:44 PM - Donatella


I am ready to jump into the thick of things again work-wise. I am talking to a couple of companies now, including Houston. Hopefully I will be able to do something where I contribute something solid and real, working with good people. I am so tired of meanies, crooks and crazies, I can't tell you. I had a nightmare the other night. It was great because it took every bad thing I experienced in the corporate world in the past 3 years and put it in a one act play. I wound up leaving, walking up a hill away from it all, feeling ok.
Edited at February 14, 2012 2:44 PM
February 14, 2012 2:45 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
you would not. with a civil service job youre free to be a total dick to the public all day long!!! it's kinda sorta even expected. lots of eye rolling involved as well.


*rob*

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February 14, 2012 2:48 PM - Arkady
Birds are really odd. Had next to none while it was cold & now they're flocking. You'd think they'd be really hungry when it's cold out.
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February 14, 2012 2:52 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
"I think if I had a government/civil service job, despite all th benefits and the vacation time and the pension, i would have committted suicide"

(Oh for the love of g*d.) There are worse things, DIBS. Seriously.


Edited at February 14, 2012 2:52 PM
February 14, 2012 3:01 PM - Arkady
I agree w/ dibs - having to work in a circumscribed job w/ no allowance for innovation & individual initiative would drive me nuts.
Edited at February 14, 2012 3:01 PM
February 14, 2012 3:03 PM - dibs
Well, maybe it would be OK if i were ant art history or sociology major; or most liberal arts degrees
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February 14, 2012 3:04 PM - MontroseMorris
"(Oh for the love of g*d.) There are worse things, DIBS. Seriously."

Yeah, rob with children. He seems to think they have no value or place on earth, other than potential "pots of gold" for scheming tax cheats.
Edited at February 14, 2012 3:04 PM
February 14, 2012 3:08 PM - MontroseMorris
I know plenty of people with gov't jobs of one kind or another. Many of my friends work or worked for the state, the city, and a couple for the feds. (one is with the IRS, another is with the FBI). They've all managed to have complete lives, in spite of the mind-numbing minutia of their misbegotten work existences. (Dripping sarcasm alert) There are worse fates, such as unrelieved unemployment.
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February 14, 2012 3:08 PM - jessibaby
Make that a pot of aluminum.
Edited at February 14, 2012 3:08 PM
February 14, 2012 3:14 PM - Donatella

I fought like hell to NOT do the civil servant route. Now looking at some people who HAVE done it and made it work for them, it doesn't look so bad. But that is only after the career is over and the person is retired. I couldn't have worked for the city or the govt. I don't think anyway. I had a less stable working existence, but had a lot of great experiences (in addition to the crapola ones, like the past 3 years).
Edited at February 14, 2012 3:14 PM
February 14, 2012 3:14 PM - Arkady
I'd rather do physical labor - everyone I've known in civil service has had to be an automaton or, at higher levels, go crazy w/ political infighting.
February 14, 2012 3:14 PM - Slopefarm
or perhaps just plain old pot.
Edited at February 14, 2012 3:14 PM
February 14, 2012 3:19 PM - Donatella
^^^^^^

My comment above.

Actually that is a huge generalization. I have to say that I was motivated by not being a drone and that was my perception of civil service. That is not true for every job. Obviously. It was me just resisting becoming a teacher or working for Motor Vehicles. There are a lot of interesting federal jobs. And some areas of State and city govt, ok. But I just didn't see that when I was starting out.
Edited at February 14, 2012 3:19 PM
February 14, 2012 3:19 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
'Automaton' doesn't sound so bad when you're unemployed and literally broke. Regular paycheck with vacation time sounds like heaven.
Edited at February 14, 2012 3:19 PM
February 14, 2012 3:21 PM - jessibaby
yeah, lots of cool govt jobs, like for example the people who work for the city and come up with the ideas for RFPs - like using McCarren pool as an ice rink...
Edited at February 14, 2012 3:21 PM
February 14, 2012 3:22 PM - Arkady
Never having been employed except freelance, the ideas of regular paycheck or paid vacation aren't part of my world.
February 14, 2012 3:23 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I think the structure, routine and stability would have been better for me than the insane jobs I've had. Might have been a better path. The amount of energy and number of hours I worked alone when figured against pay/stability really don't equal out in my mind with the supposed creativity allowed in my-so-called-career.
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February 14, 2012 3:24 PM - dibs
"Never having been employed except freelance, the ideas of regular paycheck or paid vacation aren't part of my world."

Same as with these girls!!!!
Edited at February 14, 2012 3:24 PM
February 14, 2012 3:26 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i find that most people with really creative jobs often are the most ZZZZ people. like they use up all their availble creative energy at work or something? people with mononous, boring jobs, can be real freaky deaky outside of work, and i kinda prefer those kinds of people.

*rob*

Edited at February 14, 2012 3:26 PM
February 14, 2012 3:26 PM - Arkady
Somehow I don't think I'd've been a star in that field, dibs.
Edited at February 14, 2012 3:26 PM
February 14, 2012 3:27 PM - jessibaby
Wow, Arkady. Crazy work history. What did you do about health insurance?
Edited at February 14, 2012 3:27 PM
February 14, 2012 3:28 PM - Arkady
Paid it myself. Haven't you seen my Rant #23 on health insurance for the self employed (w/ 23A being esp. those w/ cancer)?
Edited at February 14, 2012 3:28 PM
February 14, 2012 3:34 PM - jessibaby
You must have paid through the roof with the pre-existing condition. That would've drove me to seek a job with benefits.
Edited at February 14, 2012 3:34 PM
February 14, 2012 3:36 PM - MontroseMorris
I look at most of the people that I talk about all the time in my posts and comments on Brownstoner - those hard working black folks who kept Bed Stuy and Crown Heights from total ruin throughout the last 50 years. Almost all of them had civil service jobs of one kind or another. Those jobs enabled them to buy multiple houses, which gave them additional income, and be productive members of their churches and clubs. They've got cars, some have time shares, everyone goes on vacation. All the middle class trappings. Most of them managed to put kids through college, and those kids are doing really well, in mostly the private sector. Looking at the long view, there's a lot of worth in that, and nothing to sneer at. Sometimes I'm a tad envious.
Edited at February 14, 2012 3:36 PM
February 14, 2012 3:37 PM - dibs
Very true, MM, but probably no longer in those sorts of jobs.
Edited at February 14, 2012 3:37 PM
February 14, 2012 3:45 PM - MontroseMorris
Yeah, almost all retired now, but still, they put in their time, invested wisely in the neighborhoods, both financially and as neighbors, and are reaping the benefits. Real estate has long been the stock market of this neighborhood, especially among West Indians.

I'm just saying that being "groomed for higher things" is no guarantee of the good life. I'm not going to knock anyone's choices of gainful employment, or career.
Edited at February 14, 2012 3:45 PM
February 14, 2012 3:51 PM - dibs
No, what I meant was that it's probably not possible to do all those things these days on a government salary, the cost of real estate being the primary issue
Edited at February 14, 2012 3:51 PM
February 14, 2012 4:03 PM - dibs
Do any of you surf this site with an iPad???
Edited at February 14, 2012 4:03 PM
February 14, 2012 4:18 PM - Slopefarm
Apparently, no one surfs this site anymore on anything. At least not this afternoon.

And, btw, I was right. It was the "s" word that kept my comment off the biggest sales thread over there. OK to say holy moly but not holy shit.
Edited at February 14, 2012 4:18 PM
February 14, 2012 4:21 PM - More4Less
DIBS, surfing this site with ipad is very easy. I do it all the time when at home
Edited at February 14, 2012 4:20 PM
February 14, 2012 4:21 PM - dibs
Slopey, you can say s h i t but not shit


February 14, 2012 4:22 PM - dibs
yeah but I don't want to pay for an additional Verizon account. Now I have to use my laptop here at the office and I hate lugging it back and forth. I'll get a Mac Air soon i think...and a smaller bag to carry it in, leather, of course.
Edited at February 14, 2012 4:22 PM
February 14, 2012 4:26 PM - Slopefarm
Can you say sh it? S hit? Shi t?
February 14, 2012 4:28 PM - dibs
Probably.
Edited at February 14, 2012 4:28 PM
February 14, 2012 4:32 PM - Arkady
I posted from my phone earlier today when I was waiting for alt side to be over.
Edited at February 14, 2012 4:32 PM
February 14, 2012 4:38 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Anyone remember the scandal about the Dan Kaufman involved with The Busy Chef, the Blue Pig, Wine Bar, and Oven restaurants? Well...it appears he's been busy since we last heard about him! Holy Cow!

http://gawker.com/5883035/the-montauk-grifter-how-one-con-man-used-okcupid-for-fun-fraud-and-profit
Edited at February 14, 2012 4:38 PM
February 14, 2012 4:40 PM - Arkady
JB - Hard to get a job when you're sick - I almost took one as head of A/V Dept. at Merrill but shot myself in the foot by being honest about wanting it mainly for the bennies. Paying the insurance was hard esp. since my income had been too low to take advantage of deducting med expenses during the worst of times & was still paying those when I first managed to even get private coverage which had been very difficult to do.
Edited at February 14, 2012 4:40 PM
February 14, 2012 4:50 PM - More4Less
DIBS, if your verizon air card is a mobile hotspot, you don't need to sign up for svc for the ipad. just punch in password when ipad sees the verizon thingie. that's what I do with my CLEAR modem when I take it and the ipad out with me.
Edited at February 14, 2012 4:50 PM
February 14, 2012 4:57 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
The key is s p a c e s, Slopey. You can say anything you want! No s h i t! Unless they caught on to this and have changed that.
Edited at February 14, 2012 4:57 PM
February 14, 2012 5:05 PM - More4Less
the extra repeated letter too; didn't we go thru on this tutorial back when we encountered the censoring on the OT there>>>>> Slopey might've been daydreaming of Lech in the loincloth during that time
February 14, 2012 5:07 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
LOL! Yes, yes, we did have a tutorial, M4L!
Edited at February 14, 2012 5:07 PM
February 14, 2012 5:08 PM - Deleted
I am one lucky son-of-a-gun. I've been working my rolodex today, and I have stumbled onto something. I called up a consulting company that did a lot of work for me years ago. I called at the perfect time. They just got a gig to promote some Lithuanian companies (that's right - Lithuania!) over here, and they need a guy like me. I would be working free-lance for them, and that would be just fine for me. This is exactly the type of opportunity I want: the ability to get in on the ground floor of something, rather than trying to sell myself (at which I am terrible) at some established big company. I have no skills in writing a resume or selling myself. I showed my resume to an industry friend today and he told me: "You need to learn how to write a resume".
Edited at February 14, 2012 5:08 PM
February 14, 2012 5:18 PM - More4Less
benson, so wife would provide the insurance benefits via her job???
February 14, 2012 5:48 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Darn, Iran to class before you all started a Middle East punfest.

Happy Vday to those who are celebrating, or not.
Edited at February 14, 2012 5:48 PM
February 14, 2012 5:57 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
It was sudan, Six. Punfest wait for no man!
Edited at February 14, 2012 5:57 PM
February 14, 2012 6:08 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Did any of you asshats actually google translate my morning greeting, or are you all too lazy for that?
Edited at February 14, 2012 6:08 PM
February 14, 2012 6:40 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Nope. Guilty as charged! Uhm, what is it! : P
February 14, 2012 6:41 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Ah, I just did it! LOL! Nice one, Six!

"Good morning, losers."
Edited at February 14, 2012 6:41 PM
February 14, 2012 7:03 PM - Kensingtonian
Read that article cobble. Unfortunately I used to know a version of Dan Kaufman. Same name changing and same changing stories. I was never sucker enough to give him money but plenty of people I know we. I am shocked no one broke his legs yet.
Edited at February 14, 2012 7:03 PM
February 14, 2012 7:04 PM - Kensingtonian
Dibs, posting from my iPad now. This site works great on iPad.
Edited at February 14, 2012 7:04 PM
February 14, 2012 7:17 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i have some questions. questions for which most adults should know, but i don't.

1.) how does one go about booking a hotel room in another state? meaning do you need a credit card or can you arrange for them to just deduct it from your bank account? i thought about it and i think i might want to book a hotel room for the night i go down to visit my grandmother. this is for sanity reasons. i know she's going to be all pissy about that and insist i stay on the couch or take her bed, but i already know what im going to say. im going to say i have to work on some work related project and will need internet access at a hotel. (she doesnt have internet in her apartment and knows nothing about it so i believe this will fly).

2.) do trains like amtrack insist on a truly valid ID? im going to motor vehicles to get mine current this week, but in the interim they give you a paper that says who you are but no photo of you on it. do you need an id for the train itself or just buying the ticket?

3.) are car door to door car services available in hillbilly areas of the south? she's in goose creek outside of i think charleston so i dont think it's officially hillbilly exactly.

4.) should i try to speak to strangers in public down there as little as possible, or perhaps put on a faux southern accent? i dont want to be discriminated against, robbed, or raped.

5.) should i get one of those prepaid visa cards you can get in the drug store in case i want to go out or purchase anything down there?

6.) are tips on drinks less than they are up here? if so by how much about?

7.) what do i bring? i plan to bring my laptop, 2 changes of clothes, a book or two to read on the train, my toothbrush.. anything else that i am not thinking of?

8.) if i went to a doctor and told them im going on an extremely nerve wracking kind of visit would they prescribe me anti-anxiety medication? ive never been prescribed it before (i assume doctors keeps medical records of that?) so im not scamming them for drugs or anything, i have a legit reason.

9.) what is the weather like in the south in march, specifically south carolina. im more worried about being overdressed than underdressed cuz i love the cold and hardly get cold, but i get crank and uncomfortable even if i am a tad slightly overdressed or hot. are there any colors or certain articles of clothing that i definitely should NOT wear? as in like offensive things, or southern street gang-specific colors?

10.) how many days should i book this trip? (do NOT say more than 2 or 3). im thinking either 1, 2, THREE tops. 1 might might seem a tad too rushed and 3 or more seems like it might be an eternity.

11.) if my mind was changed last minute for any number of reasons, do you get your money refunded from train fare and hotel books? i know with planes there are cancellation fees, but is it the same with trains and hotels?

12.) can anyone suggest any good topics of conversation i might have with grandmother? and topics i might have with any other people i might come in contact with down there? i am afraid im going to be ambushed by a bunch of her neighbors and friends and some other family members and it might seriously bug me out like those people on that intervention show on A&E. i dont wanna cause a scene and make it uncomfortable for anyone.

sorry for all the questons, but this trip came so quick and my refund came so quick, that im really REALLY stressed out about it. but i know that if i dont book the hotel and the trains and pick up a visa card ahead of time chances are im going to completely flake out. and if i flake out on this either im going to be really sorry about it later, or totally have no feeling about it and thus feel guilty for not giving a crap kinda a thing.

if i had the money to do so id hire some random person to go thru this whole thing with me, or at least be there, even if it's akward, it might be less akward having some random stranger accompanying me and on the trip down there we could come up with a story about how we know each other, etc.

i feel like im being neurotic about something SO SIMPLE.

you dont have to answer all the questions, just answer the ones you know the answers to, it will be a big help. and in return if anyone needs anything stupid they dont want to do done, ill totally do it for you. (im talking like errands, standing on line for an ipad, shoveling snow, moving furniture, whatever, you know what i mean)

*rob*

Edited at February 14, 2012 7:17 PM
February 14, 2012 7:29 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
also if i google mapped the entire way from my apartment to her apartment, and hitchhiked my way down there (i would take a week of vacation for this) do you think my chances of making it are good? it almost seems to me like it would be the ultimate adventure. hitchhiking from various truck stop to the next, place to place, til i finally make it down there. which states is it super illegal to hitchhike in? and what are the best ways. i dont feel comfortable just sticking my thumb out on some random highway and i think that's illegal and suspect and open for danger. do you talk to random people at truckstops? i imagine that is where most people hitch rides? i only hitchhiked once in my life and that was from park slope to fort greene (shut up) and that was so easy and was an amazing adventure, but i feel like it might get a little exhausting going from nyc to south carolina that way? how much would a car from aricebo car serice cost down there? Id imagine a TON but there are stories of people who even took NYC yellow taxies to california and stuff!! there's a rides section on craisglist i think too where you can hitch rides (legal) with people happening to drive down to a certain area but you split the cost of gas and stuff. im actually charier of those people than someone who just might be passing on the side of a road cuz it seems like more predators would post stuff in the rides section of craigslist then would be randomly passing by on highways?


*rob*

Edited at February 14, 2012 7:29 PM
February 14, 2012 7:33 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
sorry for that triple post!!! my computer is going down the tubes. now im already having visions of it totally breaking down there and me spazzing out even harder!



*rob*

Edited at February 14, 2012 7:33 PM
February 14, 2012 7:41 PM - Deleted
So ready for fashion week to be over. Ugh.
Edited at February 14, 2012 7:41 PM
February 14, 2012 7:43 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
rob. OY. Against my better judgement...

Go down on 1st day, stay 2nd day, leave on the 3rd. Take the train. Yes, I'm sure there are car services/taxi. (I thought you had a friend of Gram's who can pick you up?) Save the money and stay with Gram. Travel from motel/hotel to Gram's will cost you too much. If you have to stay at motel/hotel, just call ahead and ask if you can pay cash. ID shouldn't be a problem if you have birth certificate/temporary State ID. Is your bank card a debit card? Problem(s) solved, if you have cash in the account you can use that to pay for stuff. Bring some cash at least $100. Google the weather on the interwebs. Decide to go or don't go you don't want to deal with having your money tied up if you can't get refund quickly. Yes, you are being neurotic. Just go, don't worry about it. Just deal. You'll talk to people, they will talk to you in response. You do it every day, it's not TOO MUCH of a problem. Do NOT hitchhike.

I'm not saying anything more about this, so don't ask me any questions.
February 14, 2012 7:48 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
I deleted the two extras for you. You're welcome.
February 14, 2012 8:06 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Lol the Ditmas Park Blog has been on fire lately. First a local coffee shop closing got 130+ comments, then a DOH violation at Catskill Bagels got 50+, and now a thread about out-of-state license plates and bad parking.
Edited at February 14, 2012 8:06 PM
February 14, 2012 8:07 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Yes, I'm sure there are car services/taxi. (I thought you had a friend of Gram's who can pick you up?)

i do, two people. but i assume that the ride from the train station to her apartment would be less stressful if it was with a taxi driver.

and okay, thanks, the rest of your answers made sense! ONE more question!?!? is it cheaper (in general) to travel during the week or on weekends? if it's not THAT big of a difference, id rather go down there on the weekend, just cuz people in general are more chill on the weekends and i wouldn't be messing with anyones schedules. (well my grandmother doesnt have a schedule, but the people picking me up do as well as any possible people id be meeting up with down there).

a little part of me is also very excited. i really cant wait to see southern architecture in person versus on the internet. montrose, is there anything with the architecture in the charleston area i should be on the look out? (like little details). one of my favorite things about your posts on brownstoner are the little details that i miss ALL the time. just reading your articles has really made me look UP (i never look up, im always looking at the ground for the most part when i walk around) and im always amazed by the little details, especially in my own neighborhood. sometimes i wish you covered all 5 boroughs cuz brooklyn is SO stale these days.

*rob*
Edited at February 14, 2012 8:07 PM
February 14, 2012 8:08 PM - Deleted
M4L;

No benefits. My wife doesn't work, so basically I would have to buy my own. Monetarily, this new gig would be a significant step down. However, I'm going to go with it for two reasons:

-I know the people, and I like them a lot.

-It has growth potential. Basically, it is a company that does business development for firms that are too small to hire their own team. They outsource to this company.
Edited at February 14, 2012 8:08 PM
February 14, 2012 8:12 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Lol the Ditmas Park Blog has been on fire lately. First a local coffee shop closing got 130+ comments, then a DOH violation at Catskill Bagels got 50+, and now a thread about out-of-state license plates and bad parking.

are you employed for that blog (serious question)? you seem to always pimp it. that's cool and all, but license plates and bagel shops as hot topics? um?


*rob*

Edited at February 14, 2012 8:12 PM
February 14, 2012 8:15 PM - MontroseMorris
Against my better judgement, as well - Just go, take the train. Under no circumstances hitchhike, or we'll never hear about you again. Train requires you have id on you, they never ask to see it, but you should have it, because you will be the exception to the rule. You've got time to get one.

Your debit card is credit card enough. Use it to reserve hotels, and buy stuff.

TOUGH LOVE TIME: DO NOT take "Smurf juice" on the train. One whiff of alchoholic haze not sanctioned at the bar car, and they can throw you off the train. DO NOT get rolling drunk, either, for the same reason.

Do NOT fake a Southern accent. People aren't stupid, and hate fakes more than they hate Northerners. You won't be able to keep it up, and any attempt to "blend in" will be seen as making fun. A great way to get your butt seriously kicked.

DO NOT bring porn to watch on your computer on the train. I shouldn't have to explain why.

Dress like a normal person, jeans and a shirt and jacket. Bring a decent weight jacket, it gets chilly. You're not going to Miami. Leave anything with Hello Kitty, or anything strange at home. Wear pants, not shorts, and don't let your pants drag around your ass. You're going to see your grandmother, not make a big city fashion statement.

Don't worry about topics of conversation. She's your grandmother, you've got plenty to talk about. Relax and enjoy it. If it's awkward, live with it. It's a couple of days out of your life that could mean the world to her. It's not all about you.

I have no follow-ups to offer, either. Good luck.
Edited at February 14, 2012 8:15 PM
February 14, 2012 8:17 PM - MontroseMorris
Benson, that sounds interesting. I'm sure you'll do well, as you are, in all seriousness, an expert in your field. You should be able to name your tune somewhere in the industry, and create a space for yourself.
Edited at February 14, 2012 8:17 PM
February 14, 2012 8:19 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Lol Rob, I'm not employed for the DP blog! Somehow license plates and bagel shops and coffee shops have the same effect as bike lanes, the PS Food Coop, and whatever else on Brownstoner.

Ditto what Montrose and Cobble said.
February 14, 2012 8:20 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
and congratz, benson! sounds good. it's not ALL about the money and the positives you mentioned about it are great. there's nothing wrong with doing what you do because you like the kind of people you are around, hells you spend 1/3rd of a full day with the people you work with (for most people), it better be nice. i'd much rather work with people i love and like than work with awful people for more money. im also a morning person, so if i got to work and had to deal with people who ruined my day i wouldnt like that or be able to put up with it. if i was a night person then maybe i could deal with that knowing that the last 1/3rd of my day will make up for it. but at night im more an un-winder. i dont like going out at night if i dont have to. i have no shame in early evening bubble baths, dinner, and watching some TV before going to sleep and not having to deal with anyone or even wanting to. also the 8 hours i am sleeping are the most exciting part of my day anyway, and i very much enjoy my dreams, they are very vivid and i dont think anything in actual awake life time could EVER come close to the 8 hours i spend sleeping, i wouldnt give that up in the world. people are all different. some people love the 8 hours they work to be amazing and stuff, some people love the nightlife and partying scene, but people like me love my sleep and dreaming. i experience and enjoy more in that 8 hours than the other 16, and once you open your eyes it's all over and no one else even KNOWS about it (unless youre a telekinetic dreamer, which i am not)


*rob*

Edited at February 14, 2012 8:20 PM
February 14, 2012 8:21 PM - MontroseMorris
Rob, just saw your comment. Thanks, on the architecture. Charleston is full of goodies. This is one time where the internet is useful, do some browsing.

Be back after 11.
Edited at February 14, 2012 8:21 PM
February 14, 2012 8:25 PM - rf
Rob, go here and check out different days/different prices. Some trains have wifi, some don't.
http://tickets.amtrak.com/itd/amtrak
Edited at February 14, 2012 8:25 PM
February 14, 2012 8:35 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
TOUGH LOVE TIME: DO NOT take "Smurf juice" on the train. One whiff of alchoholic haze not sanctioned at the bar car, and they can throw you off the train. DO NOT get rolling drunk, either, for the same reason.

i wasn't planning on doing that, thus, asking about getting anti anxiety meds for the trip. but there ARE bar cars? do they cost more? actually scratch that, i do not want an hours long train ride in a bar car, that can't be good, i plan to arrive sober. i get very touchy about this issue, but im not going to be mad at your for mentioning it. but honestly, i am very VERY socially insecure when sober and this trip seems scary as hell to me, but i will deal with it.

quote:
DO NOT bring porn to watch on your computer on the train. I shouldn't have to explain why.

that is a bizarre thing to say. that's not something i would EVER do. in fact im sorta against the library industry protecting the rights of people who are able to watch porn in libraries. (sorry but i dont think the constitution gives people the right to watch porn in public, especially in libraries where children are there to learn) im not against freedoms, but that's just narsty. (look it up if you havent heard about this issue coming up a LOT lately).


quote:
Leave anything with Hello Kitty, or anything strange at home. Wear pants, not shorts, and don't let your pants drag around your ass. You're going to see your grandmother, not make a big city fashion statement.

duly noted! in fact im going to be pretty much wearing the clothes she just sent me for my birthday and last christmas. i just thought it might be too hot cuz she mostly sent winter-ish clothes..

quote:
It's not all about you.

im writing that on my wrist or arm or somewhere not visible to others, that i can possibly peek at and read and re-read when im feeling anxious.
(actually that is AMAZING advise, MM... thanks).

**** i still can't believe you think i'd whip out my laptop on the train and start watching porn**** :-/ do you really think im THAT base? not to mention wearing hello kitty wear and stuff? im not THAT jejune and puerile. the smurf juice tho, i was concerned about cuz i thought it would make me feel less edgy, but i dont want to show up smelling and/or falling over and stuff cuz i was socially anxious, i think i can come up with a few other methods of coping with social anxiety in the next few weeks to not HAVE to do that. thanks! and if you need any help with moving stuff when you move, feel free to ask. even if it's just throwing various stuff out to the curb on garbage day or something.

*rob*








Edited at February 14, 2012 8:35 PM
February 14, 2012 8:51 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and speaking of porn! im about to go watch some. ever open up a new jar of vaseline only to find that someone already dipped a finger into it or see a light fingerprint on top of it? (i dont get the the light fingerprint thing wtf...?) but a full scoop is kinda gross and the one i just opened had a full scoop taken out. and this was from the bodega on 4th avenue i go into and they keep that stuff behind a glass shelf? ew, it must have been someone who worked there. i normally check in duane reade cuz it's open for anyone to touch, and WHY doesnt vaseline come with seals on them like, uh, everything else that exists? what if someone touched their STD's and then put their finger in this vaseline? im returning it in the morning.

*rob*

Edited at February 14, 2012 8:51 PM
February 14, 2012 8:54 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
gross, and now i gotta do it with Burt's Bees Naturally Nourishing Milk & Honey :-/ it was all i could find in the medicine cabinets that comes close to porno lube

*rob*

Edited at February 14, 2012 8:54 PM
February 14, 2012 9:03 PM - Deleted
TMI
Edited at February 14, 2012 9:03 PM
February 14, 2012 9:17 PM - Kensingtonian
Serious tmi.

And I second mm's advice!
Edited at February 14, 2012 9:17 PM
February 14, 2012 9:25 PM - Arkady
rob - Ditto above advice. Weather is as changeable there as here so don't plan a wardrobe until closer to departure date & then check web for forecast. You will probably find that people are friendly - when I travel in the south I come back here & find myself smiling at strangers in elevators & on the street after even just a few days in Dixie. Tips should be 15 to 20% same as here but it comes out cheaper because the tab, itself, is cheaper. Remember to take some kind of treat for your gran - chox she likes or some such. Charleston has fantastic architecture & the gardens are phenomenal. As MM said, do some research before you go - it's an amazing place.
Edited at February 14, 2012 9:25 PM
February 14, 2012 9:47 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Rob:

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/usa/the-south/charleston

http://wikitravel.org/en/Charleston%2C_South_Carolina
Edited at February 14, 2012 9:46 PM
February 14, 2012 9:52 PM - lechacal
Why are you even thinking about taking the train? Amtrak is crazy expensive. You can fly cheaper, or just take th bus if you don't want to fly.
Edited at February 14, 2012 9:52 PM
February 14, 2012 9:58 PM - lechacal
You can fly down next Friday, back next Sunday, for 300 bucks, nonstop flight on delta. Tack on 2 nights of hotel for total of 412 bucks.

I doubt the train is cheaper than that. Serious.y doubt it. And even if it is it takes a day to go each way. Train is dumb idea.
Edited at February 14, 2012 9:58 PM
February 14, 2012 10:01 PM - lechacal
I don't know why I'm the only person picking up on the fact that the train is both expensive and slow. It's mondo obvious you shou,d be flying down. Don't sweat it if you think you might be afraid to fly, just sort of drunk first (not jest drunk, normal drunk, but hide it).
Edited at February 14, 2012 10:01 PM
February 14, 2012 10:02 PM - rf
There are trains for $114 each way. 12 hours. Greyhound takes 24 hours, $75. There's a Chinatown bus for around $45, 12 hours.
Edited at February 14, 2012 10:02 PM
February 14, 2012 10:03 PM - More4Less
The dragon Jeremy Lin strikes again. Winning shot to close out the game. Leads team to yet another win. gangsta!!!!
Edited at February 14, 2012 10:03 PM
February 14, 2012 10:04 PM - More4Less
He keep Linning, I'll keep claiming he is Chinese.
Edited at February 14, 2012 10:04 PM
February 14, 2012 10:06 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Remember to take some kind of treat for your gran - chox she likes or some such.

i was going to pick up her favorite perfume of all time as a gift going down there... white diamond from elizabeth taylor. do they still make that shit? they did as of a few years ago (well maybe MANY years ago)... i was able to find some. i dont plan to go down there open handed. and im putting together a photo album for her of photos i have (many of them i took from home back in the day). it will probably be a good way to start conversations and stuff. and including various pics of people that im friends with on facebook these days who are cousins and aunts and stuff who live far away that she might want to know about. she doesnt really like me interacting with other family members at ALL, in fact she hates it, but well she's gonna have to deal with it. she sorta shieded me my entire life from extended family members, but now cuz of the internet well the weeds all come out to play and stuff and im sorry if you find it "strange" that i talk to my sister and my brother (and countless other family members), it's just how it is kinda thing. and they are not all out to "hurt me" kinda thing... (see that's the sorta thing i have to deal with explaining to her). im sure it's a good thing. after me and my ex broke up she had a shit fit and screamed "you're going to die alone!" ... something along those lines. it just didnt ring true in my brain. like really im destined to die alone cuz i broke up with a boyfriend? whaa???

unfortunately she thinks of me the same way most people think of me... im either really REALLY fragile (like a frozen flower) or im tough as nails (which is absurd, tho i do think im more in this end of the spectrum..), but still. there is SO much in the middle. so i think im going to work on a bunch of projects where im half done and finish them down there with here (i.e. photobooks, etc).

it would be awesome if i could find a puzzle of the brooklyn bridge to do with her, or more likely the bridges and shit that are on the hudson cuz we are more jersey and shit. the holland bridge or something. or a puzzle of the port authority and the lincoln tunnel would be great!!!!

im also really looking forward to hanging out with my niece (she's not really my niece, she is my grandmother's son's daughter... not sure what that is called. cousin? second cousin?) she's like 6 and i mail my grandmother gifts for her all the time. her older brothers are 15 and 20 or something like that. i played video games back in the day a very VERY long time ago with the 15 year old when he was really young. it's gonna be a mindfuck to see him at this age. same with the older brother tho i dont know if he will be around at that time (he's in the miltary)


thanks everyone for great advice, im going to make it an amazing trip and im kinda excited like i said, but i dont want the excitement to get to my head kinda thing.

obviously i dont travel a lot so im having traveller anxiety or something, and it's getting 10x folded over with family anxiety, etc. but i think i can do this. what is my grandmother gonna do anyway even if it goes aweful, scream at me and tell me to GO HOME!??! lol that would be funny. ill ask her which sneaker she plans to beat me with or butter knife she's gonna throw at the dinner table. my goal is to make the trip the best for her as possible and NOT ABOUT ME.

i COULD have spent the last month on some therapist's chair talking about this and getting good (hmmm) advice, but chose to share it here cuz i got better advice about the basics (im almost CERTAIN some asshole 200 dollar an hour dickwad would spend half the session asking me WHY i couldn't google train schedules, blah blah blah and what it meant and all that shit) thanks for all the good flat out honest answers.

i wish i could bring my dog down with me!!!!


*rob*

Edited at February 14, 2012 10:06 PM
February 14, 2012 10:11 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I don't know why I'm the only person picking up on the fact that the train is both expensive and slow. It's mondo obvious you shou,d be flying down. Don't sweat it if you think you might be afraid to fly, just sort of drunk first (not jest drunk, normal drunk, but hide it).

cuz a long trainride sounds more fun to me as i want to see the countryside from here to down there. and i want time to relax and read a ton, and i think people on trains are more chill than people on planes? no? i dont know as ive never taken a plane. if i was going to china or something, DUH, id take a plane. but not to south carolina.

quote:
normal drunk, but hide it

lol. give me tips then.


*rob*

Edited at February 14, 2012 10:11 PM
February 14, 2012 10:16 PM - lechacal
You don't really see any countryside on that route. Mostly just back yards and stuff. But ok I guess it's cheaper per rf's research, what the he'll, do it.
Edited at February 14, 2012 10:16 PM
February 14, 2012 10:41 PM - sixyearsandcounting
Those backyards are sure as hell more scenic than whatever it is you'd see from the Greyhound on I-95 for 12 hours.
Edited at February 14, 2012 10:41 PM
February 14, 2012 10:43 PM - Arkady
I think, since you've never traveled, the train or bus would be a lot more interesting for you. Maybe bus down, train back. If you luck out you meet interesting people as well as seeing the scenery.
February 14, 2012 10:45 PM - Arkady
Oh, & the scrap book idea is terrific.
I bet you can find a jigsaw of one of the bridges - Target, maybe, or at the Scholastic store on lower B'way which must be near your office.
Edited at February 14, 2012 10:45 PM
February 14, 2012 10:49 PM - rf
The fastest Greyhound is 18 hours, with changes. That's a lot. The Chinatown bus is direct I think but maybe sketchy?
Edited at February 14, 2012 10:49 PM
February 14, 2012 10:50 PM - rf
I love the scrapbook idea too.
February 14, 2012 10:55 PM - Arkady
I came back from Wilmington, DE on one of those buses & it was pretty sketchy but friends of mine have said the longer haul ones are pretty luxe. Some even have movies/tv.
Edited at February 14, 2012 10:55 PM
February 14, 2012 10:57 PM - Deleted
Rob;

It's great that you're going to see your grandmother. You willl make her day, and year for that matter.
Edited at February 14, 2012 10:57 PM
February 14, 2012 11:00 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Ditto on the photoscrapbook, rob. Lovely idea, just right.
Edited at February 14, 2012 11:00 PM
February 14, 2012 11:08 PM - Cobble B. Hiller
Don't be such a know it all, lech.
Edited at February 14, 2012 11:08 PM
February 14, 2012 11:11 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
perfect cuz i have a gazillion photos from the past (that i actually keep at work in a drawer), and bringing those with a big giant scrap book and some glue from pearl paint actually sorta makes me think this will be a fun trip for me, but moreso for my MOM (she hates wheneever i refer to her as my grandmother, so down there if anyone asks im just gonna be like yes, that's my my mom) the insane lady who raised my insane ass who oddly wants company from me at this point in my life


*rob*

Edited at February 14, 2012 11:11 PM
February 14, 2012 11:11 PM - sixyearsandcounting
I wouldn't take the Chinatown bus that far. Before the invention of Boltbus and Megabus, I took Chinatown buses to DC. No bus was ever fully operational - it would get you from point A to point B (except the one time we stopped to pick up passengers from a broken-down bus in NJ), but sometimes the A/C was broken or barely operational, sometimes the bathroom was "out of order", sometimes the driver was nuts, etc. I remember the bus pulling out into the street in Chinatown right as a wedding party arrived at a nearby restaurant. The limo blocked the bus and there was lots of shouting at the bride and groom in a mix of English and Chinese. Well, basically it was "F*** you" over and over again with lots of Chinese interspersed.

The worst time was when the bathroom stunk up the entire bus for the four hour trip. There were noticeable changes in smell whenever the bus turned a corner.
Edited at February 14, 2012 11:11 PM
February 14, 2012 11:13 PM - Arkady
Train's probably the best idea.
Edited at February 14, 2012 11:13 PM
February 14, 2012 11:15 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
There are trains for $114 each way. 12 hours. Greyhound takes 24 hours, $75. There's a Chinatown bus for around $45, 12 hours.

which one do i take? im actually not chary of the chinatown buses. i bet they dont check ID's and shit. also omg DUH, do you get breaks to go outside for fresh air? (aka a ciggie break? or should i strap on a nicotine patch!?!?)

*rob*

Edited at February 14, 2012 11:15 PM
February 14, 2012 11:20 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
The worst time was when the bathroom stunk up the entire bus for the four hour trip. There were noticeable changes in smell whenever the bus turned a corner.

thank you, thank you, THANK YOU! i didnt want to bring up THAT issue (poomist) without sounding like a total phone!!!!

*rob*

February 14, 2012 11:23 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
phobe, not phone. id be the first one on the phone if i smelt poomist on some 12 hour plus bus ride. omg. you are scaring the shit out of me now.

most normal people take their poops BEFORE they do stuff that takes hours and hours, i dont want to be around such classless people. so you think it's best i take the train? maybe a more expensive one? this almost makes me wanna book a flight!

*rob*



Edited at February 14, 2012 11:23 PM
February 14, 2012 11:26 PM - MontroseMorris
Rob, I don't think anyone is sure what you'll do, especially when you are freaking out, so I covered all bases. If I was way off, I'm sorry. I did not mean to suggest that you would do anything other than watch inappropriate materials on the train, just wanted you to know that's not cool.

Everyone has given you good suggestions, lech excluded. I think the train is better than the bus. If there is something not cool, or the bathroom doesn't work in your car of the train, you can always go to another car. You can't do that on a bus. Buses are also limited by the roads they are on, and the conditions of those roads. I like trains.

I think a scrapbook that you can give your grandmother is the best gift possible. Go for it. She'll treasure it.
Edited at February 14, 2012 11:26 PM
February 14, 2012 11:47 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
thanks,MM! yeah, the scrapbook thing came to me last mimute amd im like hmmm that will will be so good for her AND me as well. im also going to go on facebook and get the #'s of lots of family members and call them when im down there and then put my grandmother on the phone (sorta on the spot, but that is okay)... ive given a few people on facebook her # that she knew in the past and my grandmother LOVED hearing from them. (she actually says, "those people, you see on the tv" lol, she obviously means the computer) hahahah. actually, it would be awesome to being be able to connect with some people via phone and facechat with some people down there... cant do it in her apartment (unless there are people you can steal wi-fi from?) g'nite

*rob*

Edited at February 14, 2012 11:47 PM
February 15, 2012 12:16 AM - Namor
This thread is fracking large.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YVkyUc6oJU
Edited at February 15, 2012 12:16 AM
February 15, 2012 12:23 AM - Namor
yeah, not sure this is going to work for me. clunky and spammed. I miss you old asshats tho!
Edited at February 15, 2012 12:23 AM