Weekend Open Thread
September 24, 2011 9:30 AM - cobblehiller

307 comments
September 24, 2011 9:31 AM - cobblehiller
GM
Edited at September 24, 2011 9:31 AM
#1
September 24, 2011 9:40 AM - CGar
cobble.

We posted dueling Weekend OTs, so I took mine down. Mine had an image...
Edited at September 24, 2011 9:40 AM
#2
September 24, 2011 9:41 AM - cobblehiller
Sorry, CGar, I refreshed right before, but didn't see yours!
#3
September 24, 2011 9:42 AM - cobblehiller
Running off...back later...
Edited at September 24, 2011 9:42 AM
#4
September 24, 2011 9:48 AM - DeadCatBounce
Before yesterday I was mostly unfamiliar with Saul Alinsky and his profound influence on politics today. Pretty horrifying in my opinion.
Edited at September 24, 2011 9:48 AM
#5
September 24, 2011 10:01 AM - petebklyn
all PLUSAs please check in and confirm not hit and killed by falling space debris.
Edited at September 24, 2011 10:01 AM
#6
September 24, 2011 10:12 AM - DeadCatBounce
Escaped all space debris. Several hits by terrestrial human debris. None fatal.
Edited at September 24, 2011 10:12 AM
#7
September 24, 2011 10:14 AM - Donatella
Safe here. Roof ok. Black cat in my back yard. Does that mean anything?
#8
September 24, 2011 10:19 AM - Arkady
DCB - ??? He did a lot of great stuff & changed how we look at the under class. I'd put him up there w/ Michael Harrington (throb) although not quite as pure.
#9
September 24, 2011 10:23 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
no fallen satellite here!

*rob*

Edited at September 24, 2011 10:23 AM
#10
September 24, 2011 10:28 AM - petebklyn
so we've survived earthquake, hurricane and now tons of falling space debris. we're indestructible. please make a t-shirt up quick
Edited at September 24, 2011 10:28 AM
#11
September 24, 2011 11:06 AM - jessibaby
I, by mistake, put wash-out conditioner in my hair assuming it was the leave-in type. Fatal?

Meeting my dad for lunch. He's in with his fiancée's family to catch a bway show. Engaged since 2002.
Edited at September 24, 2011 11:06 AM
#12
September 24, 2011 11:10 AM - Arkady
Jessi - It'll just mean your hair gets dirtier faster this time - no lasting damage.
Edited at September 24, 2011 11:10 AM
#13
September 24, 2011 11:15 AM - DeadCatBounce
Arkady, I am just starting to learn about him- but I have not uncovered any great stuff that he did. He is a current hero of the left, so many people agree with you.

As far as I can tell, his main goal was to advance the use of tactics, many of them underhanded, in order to undermine basic principles of our democracy that I believe made America great.

"Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also, it infuriates the opposition, who then reacts to your advantage."

He professed compassion for the poor and underprivileged, but like so many tyrants in the last 100 years, that seems to me like a poorly veiled excuse for usury. The Black Panthers of his day saw him that way too, and kicked him to the curb.
#14
September 24, 2011 11:20 AM - jessibaby
Dirty hair? Just what I need, my scalp already has a tendency to stink. I'd wash more often but that's bad news for my color. Balancing act.
#15
September 24, 2011 11:27 AM - petebklyn
I think it is the right-wingers who have embraced his tactics these days.
And not being snarky...some readily admit it.
Edited at September 24, 2011 11:27 AM
#16
September 24, 2011 11:28 AM - DeadCatBounce
Pete, if you disagree with his tactics, then we are on the same side.
Edited at September 24, 2011 11:28 AM
#17
September 24, 2011 11:36 AM - Arkady
Among others, Wm. Buckley endorsed him so not pure lefty.
Edited at September 24, 2011 11:36 AM
#18
September 24, 2011 11:43 AM - minard lafever
I agree with Arkady that Alinsky was one of the good guys. I have not heard much said against him. His tactics were what they needed to be at the time to begin turning the tables on the long-standing problem of institutionalized racism, which itself was definitely not in keeping with American ideals.
We have come a long way from the time when he first started his community organizing work. He's been dead for over thirty years, no?
I confess I don't know that much about him really. What is it in particular that appalls you? Am really interested.

#19
September 24, 2011 11:43 AM - DeadCatBounce
Never liked Buckley either.
Although I do like to sail and so did Buckley.
Edited at September 24, 2011 11:43 AM
#20
September 24, 2011 11:46 AM - petebklyn
I don't know enough to agree or disagree with his tactics. Or how people may interpret his tactics in today's world.
#21
September 24, 2011 11:49 AM - minard lafever
I really don't understand the accusation of "usury". That's a loaded word.

Edited at September 24, 2011 11:49 AM
#22
September 24, 2011 11:53 AM - DeadCatBounce
Minard, I have already started to outline what appalls me about Alinsky including a quote and a little bit of his history.

I may not in favor of institutionalized racism, but a follower of Alinsky's tactics would deliberately try and falsely frame a detractor of Alinsky in that way: "Pick the target, personalize it and polarize it". (Not saying you are doing that to me, just an example).

As I learn more, I may post further on the topic.
#23
September 24, 2011 11:58 AM - DeadCatBounce
Stand corrected on the use of the word "usury".
Meant to say Alinsky used the suffering of the downtrodden for his own purposes.
Edited at September 24, 2011 11:58 AM
#24
September 24, 2011 12:00 PM - Arkady
Hilary Clinton's college thesis was on Alinsky & supposedly his ideas were the foundation of her political thinking. He was an early leader of the anti-Viet Nam War movement when I was in college - slightly before Hilary's time.
Edited at September 24, 2011 12:00 PM
#25
September 24, 2011 12:09 PM - petebklyn
so could calling obama a socialist or the health care reform act and labeling it 'obamacare' and socialist be an example of 'polarizing' it and 'personalizing' it.
Edited at September 24, 2011 12:09 PM
#26
September 24, 2011 12:10 PM - minard lafever
arkady, I didn't know that. How interesting.
DCB. yes, I see what you mean about personalizing things that really were societal issues.
I didn't think you meant "usury."
maybe calumny or slander?

Edited at September 24, 2011 12:10 PM
#27
September 24, 2011 12:14 PM - Arkady
I think the Panthers were against him as they were against many sympathizers who were white - it was a q.e.d.: if you're not black we don't want you. That was one of their stances among several that alienated them from the mainstream protest movement.
#28
September 24, 2011 12:15 PM - Arkady
And, yeah, pete, you're spot on!
#29
September 24, 2011 12:16 PM - DeadCatBounce
Got to go pick up my kids.
The above was an example of a good, non-personal debate.
And yes, slightly boring, with myself mainly to blame.
Later, all.
#30
September 24, 2011 12:18 PM - minard lafever
most of politics is about personalizing things right? We blame politicians when bad things happen and give them credit when good things happen even though it usually is mostly our of their control. A case in point was Bloomberg being lauded for the lack of damage done in the city by Hurricane Irene.

Edited at September 24, 2011 12:18 PM
#31
September 24, 2011 12:21 PM - minard lafever
I don't think it was boring at all. I think it was educational, for me anyway.
I am supposed to go to a street fair (?!) good luck with that. Probably will be cut short by the weather.
later perdidos infelizes.

Edited at September 24, 2011 12:21 PM
#32
September 24, 2011 12:28 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
im taking my dog to the park. we're gonna play crusties today. i was going to shower in a bit, but i think youre kinda supposed to not look clean. i guess it's possible to be clean and crusty looking at the same time, but i hate feeling grimey. grrr i wish i had a dread lock wig right now.


*rob*

Edited at September 24, 2011 12:28 PM
#33
September 24, 2011 12:29 PM - Arkady
Where's the street fair, minard?
Edited at September 24, 2011 12:29 PM
#34
September 24, 2011 12:49 PM - Donatella
Public Service Announcement

Using myself as an example here. It is definitely not adviseable to flip someone the bird. It is an impulsive, hostile reaction, often to something equal or more impulsive or hostile but that's neither here nor there.

So I was minding my own business, driving slowly approaching a yellow light on Hall Street toward DeKalb when a large grey van came speeding behind me, honking madly. So I was startled, sped up through the yellow, making a right as said lunatic sped through the light. With an elan developed only by driving in Brooklyn, I timed my turn perfectly, flipping the said jerk the bird.

Well, apparantly he was NOT in so much of a rush as to follow me around on the side streets as I got close to my house. Hmmm, I thought I eluded him when he appeared out of nowhere, looking just as mad. Yeah, it was him, yelling about my giving him the finger. So I decided to drive to Classon and DeKalb, the 88th Precinct and hang there for a bit. Meditating.
On how that is the last time, repeat the last time, I ever flip someone the bird.

#35
September 24, 2011 12:55 PM - sixyearsandcounting
A "refined, cleaner" Coney Island boardwalk, and a developer who does away with family-owned businesses:

http://newyork.grubstreet.com/2011/09/no_more_summers_the_end_of_one.html

Edited at September 24, 2011 12:55 PM
#36
September 24, 2011 1:02 PM - sixyearsandcounting
...and speaking of historic preservation, the Saudis are destroying huge swaths of Old Mecca to make room for malls, skyscrapers, and hotels: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/mecca-for-the-rich-islams-holiest-site-turning-into-vegas-2360114.html

I'd love to see Benson and Montrose Morris debate that one!
Edited at September 24, 2011 1:02 PM
#37
September 24, 2011 1:11 PM - Arkady
6 - I read last week that those ersatz concrete boardwalks are already cracking.
Dona - Really unwise move! My usual ploy when someone is honking at me to speed up is to slow down.
Edited at September 24, 2011 1:11 PM
#38
September 24, 2011 1:16 PM - Donatella
No kidding Arkady. It was impulsive and really stupid. If the guy was being a lunatic to begin with, how is flipping him the bird going to make things better?

That is so sad about the Coney Island shop. That is what makes Coney Island so cool, all those funky shops.
#39
September 24, 2011 1:18 PM - wendybear1
"On how that is the last time, repeat the last time, I ever flip someone the bird."

One way I dealt with things like that living in Los Angeles was to give the person the benefit of the doubt. I assumed he or she was having an awful day, and was able to overlook a lot.

It also cut down my driving stress a lot. It became a very comfortable experience to be cut off, to say, "I wonder what else is happening with that person..."
Edited at September 24, 2011 1:18 PM
#40
September 24, 2011 1:24 PM - petebklyn
just be sure driver is not a off-duty cop.
#41
September 24, 2011 1:39 PM - Donatella
I think I can safely say that this guy was a nut job.
Edited at September 24, 2011 1:39 PM
#42
September 24, 2011 1:40 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
or a moonface's lawyer dad visiting town.

*rob*

#43
September 24, 2011 1:44 PM - Arkady
I had a friend who was stopped by a cop for speeding on his motorcycle on the West Side Hwy in the early 1960s. He said to the cop, "My wife's about to get pregnant & I want to be there." The cop found it so amusing he let my pal go! That'd never happen today.
Edited at September 24, 2011 1:44 PM
#44
September 24, 2011 1:48 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
it wouldnt happen today cuz fathers are all up in their wife's womb MONTHS before the baby is even coming out with their cameras all ready and everything. im gayish so maybe i dont get it, but im not sure id ever want to stick my dick in the same hole that my kid just popped out of.


*rob*

#45
September 24, 2011 1:57 PM - MontroseMorris
"I'd love to see Benson and Montrose Morris debate that one!"

Well, you know my stance on the question.

Totally unrelated, I'm in cleaning mode today. Have to strike while the mood is there. It doesn't always last long. Plus humid days make me sleepy. Will check in later!
Edited at September 24, 2011 1:57 PM
#46
September 24, 2011 2:04 PM - Donatella
That's pretty funny, Arkady. I'd let him go too.
#47
September 24, 2011 2:07 PM - Donatella
Go, MM. I am doing the same. 15 minutes in each room/space. Setting a timer.
#48
September 24, 2011 2:10 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
AH, before taking duke to the park im trying TRYING to get in a cleaning mode right now. i pulled out the vacuum cleaner from downstairs! that's a start. it is muggy today and i want to turn on the AC but i feel guilty putting it on this time of year grrr. i would totally get a maid if they didnt all steal.


*rob*

#49
September 24, 2011 2:15 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Well damn. You all have guilted me into doing some housework today :-( DonaT, I'm gonna copy you. 15 minutes per room. Then I quit! (great idea by the way about the timer)
#50
September 24, 2011 2:25 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i dont understand the timer thing. it's not like cooking an egg. it's not clean until it's cleaned. what if you still have stains on something when the 15 minutes are up? do you just walk away? do you have OCD when it comes to cleaning? whenever i start cleaning i go into crazy mode where EVERYTHING seems dirty and my mind races 100 miles a minute and i get the sweats. maybe i should try your 15 minute rule? haha


*rob*

Edited at September 24, 2011 2:25 PM
#51
September 24, 2011 2:33 PM - Arkady
Disagree, rob. I have a wonderful housekeeper who comes every 2 weeks & has done for 30 years. She is terrific & I love the way the house is absolutely pristine & sparkling after she's been here.
Edited at September 24, 2011 2:33 PM
#52
September 24, 2011 2:35 PM - Donatella
THAT is exactly the reason for a timer. 15minutes. Then STOP. It is a discipline. Otherwise, you could spend the whole day cleaning. And you have other things to do, right??? (I hope so!!!)
Edited at September 24, 2011 2:35 PM
#53
September 24, 2011 2:42 PM - Arkady
Martha is here for 4 hours & does all 3 floors so they're immaculate - when I had the floors done & all the furniture had to be moved, there wasn't a dust kitty anywhere. If I were to do it, it'd be like the Forth Bridge, by the time I finished it'd be time to start again. It's hard to know how to count the rooms -halls, shed, etc.- but I think it actually works out to roughly your 15-minutes per!
#54
September 24, 2011 2:50 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
lol arkady, im SURE she's nice and gets it done and does it perfectly, but she's still probably in your bedroom raiding your panties drawer! nurses and housekeepers/maids... two of the chariest professions that exist! i recently found out that a neighbor of mine who i adore and have for like 3 years now is a nurse or a home health aide or something... now i look at her with a jaundiced eye when she says hi and is all friendly!

*rob*
Edited at September 24, 2011 2:58 PM
#55
September 24, 2011 2:51 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
im gonna try the 15 minutes think. i have my bedroom, living room, and kitchen and bathroom. but i dont think it's my turn yet for the kitchen and bathroom.

*rob*

#56
September 24, 2011 2:54 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
and i just pulled up my roommates vacuum from the den downstairs, never really used one here tho i wanted to buy one a while back, cuz we dont have rugs or anything, but i think it will be good to suck cobwebs out of corners and stuff, it's an Electrolux from jeez. i dont know HOW old this thing is. looks like it could be 100 years old! he told me he just recentlly "got it repaired" lol. do people still repair shit? that's kinda cool i guess. i remember growing up our tv would always have to go to the shop for "repair". now everyone just throws shit out and buys new stuff which is bad but good but still bad.

*rob*

Edited at September 24, 2011 2:54 PM
#57
September 24, 2011 2:58 PM - Arkady
rob - I had Martha stay in my house to take care of my cats for the 2 weeks I went to England last spring. (I had all my underwear w/ me so there was none missing when I got home. ;-) )
You & I are going to have to agree to disagree on housekeepers along w/ nurses.
Edited at September 24, 2011 3:14 PM
#58
September 24, 2011 3:14 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
2 weeks I went to England last spring to take care of my cats. (I had all my underwear w/ me

LOL so you only own 5 pairs of underwear!?!?

*rob*

okay, im about to haul ass. im never gonna get to the park if i dont finish this crappy cleaning.

#59
September 24, 2011 3:18 PM - Arkady
2 weeks! 18 pairs!!!
Edited at September 24, 2011 3:18 PM
#60
September 24, 2011 3:23 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
That's all the undies you own???? Perhaps I have a shopping problem...
Edited at September 24, 2011 3:23 PM
#61
September 24, 2011 3:24 PM - Bedstuymaven
Hi All. Snappy how are your allergies today?
Edited at September 24, 2011 3:24 PM
#62
September 24, 2011 3:25 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Howdy, BSM :-) Allergies are ok so far...but I haven't left the house yet! A.C. is on to help my breathing. How are you?
Edited at September 24, 2011 3:25 PM
#63
September 24, 2011 3:26 PM - WonTon
Hi Arkady. The marvelous Mr. Winston Plummer just came and put up my new windowshades AND re-adjusted my wonky shower fixtures. I didn't know that Mr. Plummer was a plumber, too. Anyway, he's one of those natural genius kind of all around handymen, I can see--good problem solver, etc. Plus he's a very mellow guy. Thanks for the recommend.
#64
September 24, 2011 3:38 PM - Arkady
WonTon - Winston is my hero!!
#65
September 24, 2011 3:41 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
there's privacy leaks ALL over facebook right now because of the new updates and redesign... secure your settings. i just looked up an ex out of curiosity cuz i know everything is out in the open and just got really depressed lol. not so much depressed but moreso like omg EW.

*rob*

Edited at September 24, 2011 3:41 PM
#66
September 24, 2011 3:43 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
snappy, when arkady said she only owns 2 weeks worth of clean underwear i automatically thought of you. dont you own like 50000 pair?

*rob*

Edited at September 24, 2011 3:43 PM
#67
September 24, 2011 3:59 PM - Arkady
I also only have 3 sets of sheets for my bed. I have only one nightie I really like in each season which is a drag: I wouldn't mind more but they're so expensive & laundering the ones I have isn't that big a deal.
Edited at September 24, 2011 3:59 PM
#68
September 24, 2011 4:13 PM - Bedstuymaven
Doing pretty well Snappy. Just got back in. We were planting flower and cleaning up the local park.
Edited at September 24, 2011 4:13 PM
#69
September 24, 2011 4:18 PM - Arkady
How's the gaping chasm in your front, BSM?
#70
September 24, 2011 4:20 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I also only have 3 sets of sheets for my bed.

turns out i have a purple leopard spotted pair of sheets hahaha. found it last weekend in the back of the closet. im not a fan of sheets at all considering im not a fan of beds. a thick comforter on a leather sofa works for me and it's how i feel most comfortable sleeping. And if you sleep on a sofa you dont even need pillows. im not sure who the tard was who invented pillows, but they aren't good for you. I have a few, but i dont use them. they stay in the closet. people who sleep in pajamas also creep me out. having seperate clothes just for sleeping is WEIRD to me. what if you had to run outside in the middle of the night?

got a bunch of cleaning done :) right now about the pledge my bedroom floor. i love fresh pledging cuz it's like a sheet of ice where one wrong move and you can totally fall and break a bone! i <3 slipper floors, they totally keep me on my toes.

*rob*

Edited at September 24, 2011 4:20 PM
#71
September 24, 2011 4:23 PM - Arkady
Sheets are good. How often do you launder your comforter?
PJs & nighties are also good - I go outdoors in mine if needed (to collect recycling bins, get a far-flung paper, etc.)
#72
September 24, 2011 4:30 PM - Bedstuymaven
Arkady. The gaping chasm has been covered. I only have three set of sheet. All white with different lace treatments. If I need to replace a sheet, I don't have to buy a new set.
Edited at September 24, 2011 4:30 PM
#73
September 24, 2011 4:31 PM - Bedstuymaven
it is Clint Eastwood day on Encore.
#74
September 24, 2011 4:34 PM - Bedstuymaven
In the winter I will go to bodega in my PJ's. I have a coat covering and it is just only 2 doors down and across the street.
Edited at September 24, 2011 4:34 PM
#75
September 24, 2011 4:35 PM - Deleted
Finally finished packing the bulk of my stuff. Purged alot. Rest is morning-of move throw in a box stuff. Moving is so annoying!!
#76
September 24, 2011 4:36 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
How often do you launder your comforter?

i dont wanna sound like a skank or anything, but ive only washed it once in 2 years. but i also shower BEFORE bed and dont allow it ever to be a temperature where it's warm while im sleeping.

quote:
In the winter I will go to bodega in my PJ's.

that's SO moonface. hahahaha (seriously, it is)

*rob*

#77
September 24, 2011 4:40 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
DH, packing SUCKS. i actually have dreams/nightmares about it being the last day or the day of having to move out and not having any packing done. it's quite a reoccuring dream actually. are you hiring people, doing the man with a vans on craigslist (i always did that... the last ones were were jamaican and smoked weed in the truck with me and my dog smooshed between my shit ahhahahah). if youre being ghetto and hiring no one and just renting a u-haul or something feel free to ask, i often help people move.

*rob*

Edited at September 24, 2011 4:40 PM
#78
September 24, 2011 4:43 PM - Bedstuymaven
yes, i am a slimy moonface and proud of it.
#79
September 24, 2011 4:44 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
so im talking to my sister on facebook right now and im telling her about stuff going on in my life and all she can offer is "old people suck". im trying to have an adult conversation with her about stuff (she's like 20) but it's like talking to a younger female version of myself, no wonder you people get annoyed with me.

*rob*

#80
September 24, 2011 4:46 PM - petebklyn
purged a lot? sounds like you have become bulimic. is that a side effect of nicotine withdrawal.
#81
September 24, 2011 4:48 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
yes, i am a slimy moonface and proud of it.

i ventured into the Booth only to see a slimey assface that dave posted
:-/ not a face, an ass. it was the greasiest looking ass ive EVER seen. why wouldnt someone shower before taking a picture like that? and then put it on the internet!? gack. im never going back into the booth again.

*rob*



#82
September 24, 2011 4:48 PM - Arkady
My main 2 sets of sheets are same as yours but I also have a set of gitd planets & stars.
Edited at September 24, 2011 4:48 PM
#83
September 24, 2011 4:49 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i think most renters purge a lot when they move. im a little scared cuz i have what i have now and almost everything i own came from the trash (furniture wise) but i dont think if i moved again id be taking trash from the streets. yuck.
*rob*

#84
September 24, 2011 4:50 PM - Bedstuymaven
DH - When you back the last bit of stuff. Pack the dishes with the pillows. Will save you time wrapping them and they will be well cushioned.
#85
September 24, 2011 4:51 PM - cobblehiller
I'm not looking forward to packing. I'm excellent at it, but I know it's going to be exhausting. I need to call the movers and ask them for an estimate. More money to spend. YAY! : (
Edited at September 24, 2011 4:51 PM
#86
September 24, 2011 4:52 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
the prices of furniture, like BASIC furniture tho, is mind-boggling to me. my grandmother got her entire house furnished from a local church down in south carolina and lots of neighbors chipped in with other essentials. id imagine that kind of stuff doesnt happen up here? (FYI anyone reading this, my grandmther and me are from JERSEY, not the south)

*rob*

#87
September 24, 2011 4:52 PM - cobblehiller
We'll be purging, for sure, when we pack. Not that we have a ton of stuff, but it's a good opportunity to weed out the crap.
#88
September 24, 2011 4:55 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Pack the dishes with the pillows.

that's filthy

*rob*

#89
September 24, 2011 4:55 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
hey DH, while youre at it pack your toothbrush with your shoes!!!

*rob*

Edited at September 24, 2011 4:55 PM
#90
September 24, 2011 4:56 PM - Arkady
I found I made better decisions if I tossed things at the other end of the move - i.e. on arrival at the new place.
#91
September 24, 2011 4:57 PM - Deleted
Thanks for the tip bsm! That is def a good idea.

I'm hiring movers rob. Bldg requires movers to have insurance. If they don't, I have to give 1000 dollar cash deposit for any potential damages.

The movers cost around 500 - but I've used them several times before and are well worth it.

Ps - iPhone keeps autocorrecting "bsm" to "bum". So apologies in advance if it ever slips thru!!
Edited at September 24, 2011 4:57 PM
#92
September 24, 2011 4:58 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
GO, 72ND PRECINCT, GO!

The CrimeStoppers Van is making the rounds, up and down the streets playing a recorded announcement that gives the description of the rapist(s) and is offering a reward to anyone who turns his ass in!
#93
September 24, 2011 5:01 PM - Deleted
Stumbled upon a pretty cool furniture place called "nightwood" that has reasonably priced stuff. They used to be a flea vendor but recently opened a store up here near me.
Edited at September 24, 2011 5:01 PM
#94
September 24, 2011 5:02 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Bldg requires movers to have insurance. If they don't, I have to give 1000 dollar cash deposit for any potential damages.

:-/ wtf? so what if like you dont even have 1000 dollars worth of stuff to move? are you moving into another moonface building!? that rule seems fucking stupid as hell

*rob*

Edited at September 24, 2011 5:02 PM
#95
September 24, 2011 5:03 PM - Arkady
What kind of stuff, dh? I'm looking for a floor lamp.
#96
September 24, 2011 5:04 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
offering a reward to anyone who turns his ass in!

i thought it was like 3 or 4 people like Last House on the Left kinda thing..? anyway, i hope they catch the sons of bitches. i bet the perps must have some kinda fetish to be targeting a neighborhood like that tho.

*rob*

#97
September 24, 2011 5:06 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I'm looking for a floor lamp.

i have a great silver floor lamp with 6 bulbs, i think back a long time ago bayridgegirl wanted to buy it from me and i said id just give it away but then she didnt want it when she realized it wasnt some crazy ass designer expensive lamp. i dont know what it is. i stole it from my ex boyfriend when he dumped me and i moved out.

*rob*

Edited at September 24, 2011 5:06 PM
#98
September 24, 2011 5:08 PM - Arkady
About 20 years ago some guys robbed a bank on 7th Av in the Slope at around 8 a.m. - getting the workers as they opened the building. There was a long siege w/ helicopters hovering, etc. I walked up to see what was going on & commented to a woman in the crowd, "Must be pretty crazy to try to rob a bank in broad daylight at a busy intersection." And she said, "You expect someone robbing a bank to be sane?" I've laughed at that ever since. So, yeah, rob, I imagine sexual predators have some kind of seriously screwed up psychology.
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#99
September 24, 2011 5:08 PM - Bedstuymaven
DH - you are welcome
September 24, 2011 5:09 PM - Arkady
I'm looking for a turned, wood lamp stand.
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September 24, 2011 5:10 PM - rf
Cobble, did you find a place? I sent you an email about another one in Bed-Stuy.
September 24, 2011 5:11 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Arkady, got an online example you can point to? Curious what you mean.
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September 24, 2011 5:11 PM - Bedstuymaven
Ps - iPhone keeps autocorrecting "bsm" to "bum". So apologies in advance if it ever slips thru!! - \

If you call me a bum, I'll take it as a compliment.
September 24, 2011 5:11 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
offering a reward to anyone who turns his ass in!

there shouldnt BE rewards to turn people in. that's tax payer money. while i want the guy (probably a guy) caught, i dont think bribing people with reward money is right. tho i guess it's part of safety overall.. i dont know, i would think that if anyone saw something or knew they would help out anyway even if there was no money to be had. it's like when i walk down the block and see a missing dog poster with a 2000 dollar reward, i sorta cringe. im not sure what i'd do if i lost my dog. id have to put up flyers with a reward saying something like ill suck your dick and do your dishes cuz i dont have 2000 dollars to get my dog back? i feel the same way about these criminal rewards.

it's also very weird how they have not caught anyone yet. if it was the UES im sure he'd be caught already

*rob*

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September 24, 2011 5:12 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
iPhone keeps autocorrecting "bsm" to "bum".

*mum*

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September 24, 2011 5:13 PM - minard lafever
I see everyone is airing their dirty laundry. -as usual!
Arkady, have you looked in Housing Works on Montague Street?

September 24, 2011 5:14 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I'm looking for a turned, wood lamp stand.

im betting there's a ton of moonface bars that you could walk right in and walk right out with one if you really wanted to. then mail them a check or something and say you bought their lamp. i do that when i like something. take it, then mail cash later. it's not stealing, it's called hyper-consumerism.

*rob*

September 24, 2011 5:16 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
im thinking about taking out my window AC. i did the first year i lived here but then left it in the last two... it's a pain in the ass cuz it;s all grody on the outside and stuff but id love to have two windows in here (it's on the TOP part of one window so not bad, but id still like to have full windows)

*rob*

September 24, 2011 5:19 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
RE: Housing works, minard... are there a lot of them? the one that opened up near me across the street is actually really decently priced, im actually SHOCKED by that. the one in chelsea (i think there was one in chelsea) is waaaaaaaaaay overpriced and there's one near me in soho but i think that's just books and stuff and donation drop offs. also the workers are really friendly unlike other vintage shops that give you mad attitude and stuff. even salvation army and goodwill, the workers are kinda, eh, really bitchy. but i think the latter are ex-cons or something so it's a bit understandable?

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September 24, 2011 5:19 PM - minard lafever
google "Artek" and take a look at their stuff. It is all beautiful, all designed by Alvar Aalto. Pretty expensive but gorgeous.
They have knock offs of that stuff in a lot of places like Target. It can give you an idea.


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September 24, 2011 5:19 PM - Arkady
No, I haven't, minard. There's one here I've peeked into.
Snaps, I have a shot of it but it's on paper, not pixels.
September 24, 2011 5:22 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Alvar Aalto did some pretty sexy stuff. And yes, very expensive.
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September 24, 2011 5:23 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
OOOOOOHHHHH! Arkady...I wanna see the pic. Maybe you could make your own? Fun project!
September 24, 2011 5:23 PM - minard lafever
yes Rob, Housing works is very reasonable. there are several around town. It is a good place to keep in mind when you want to get rid of stuff too. I mean nice stuff, not junk of course.

September 24, 2011 5:26 PM - cobblehiller
No, rf, we haven't found an apt. yet. It's become very depressing to even talk about. Thanks for sending the email, they won't take us, we smoke. We saw more tiny places that we can't fit into today without getting rid of half our stuff, and none were even really worth doing that for. We're going to see a new broker tomorrow. I can't believe it's so hard to find a place that's 650 sq. feet plus for what we want/need to pay. We're just overwhelmed and exhausted.
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September 24, 2011 5:28 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Cobble, kick back, crack open a bottle of swill, deep breaths, and woooooosaaaaaaaa :-) I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for you lady!
September 24, 2011 5:32 PM - cobblehiller
I don't even have any wine! I have to go out and get some!

And I have a real beef with these brokers. We tell them we need 650 sq. ft. plus and they try to tell us that places that are smaller than ours are 700! And then when we reject them, they show us even smaller places! I could have strangled the broker this morning.
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September 24, 2011 5:33 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Cobbly...don't commit brokercide...there's no swill in jail!
September 24, 2011 5:34 PM - minard lafever
Cobble, you need to give it time. You will find something. The deadline your LL gave you was unrealistic.
Brokers can be unbearable, I agree.
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September 24, 2011 5:37 PM - minard lafever
CH Would you consider living in one of those large buildings in Clinton Hill? The ones built for Navy Yard employees during WWII? I think they are nice, and a good value. No?

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September 24, 2011 5:42 PM - cobblehiller
We've looked at apts in Clinton Hill, not sure which ones you're talking about. Meanwhile, brokers won't even consider my income, they're only looking at BH, so that's limiting what we qualify for when we apply for apts. Which is another beef — It's $100 ($50 for each of us) for the credit check each time we apply.
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September 24, 2011 5:44 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
If they aren't going to consider your income, then they've got no business looking at your credit and charging you to do the same. Fuckers!
September 24, 2011 5:46 PM - Arkady
Yeah, what's w/ that? You both have the same landlord for references & if only BH's income is in play, tell them to get screwed. I do pretty exhaustive credit checks on prospective tenants but only the lease holder, for heaven's sake!
September 24, 2011 5:47 PM - cobblehiller
I know! So I have to sit there and be mortified while they ask me all these personal questions and ask for screen shots of my pathetic checking account, and then ask me if I have any savings. It's been soul crushing.
September 24, 2011 5:48 PM - cobblehiller
No, I have to be on the lease, too, they're saying.
September 24, 2011 5:50 PM - Arkady
That's the exact opposite of what SC told me to do. One person responsible makes it much easier to pursue that individual. I can ask a broker friend about it if you want. It really doesn't sound kosher to me.
Snaps? What do you think?
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September 24, 2011 5:53 PM - Bedstuymaven
As a spouse, Cobble can be on the lease without being responsible for payment.
September 24, 2011 5:57 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Housing works is very reasonable. there are several around town. It is a good place to keep in mind when you want to get rid of stuff too. I mean nice stuff, not junk of course.

yeah. im sorta minimal. no one wants my junk.
September 24, 2011 5:57 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Yeah, that doesn't sound right to me at all. Double check on this, but I understood that one person can be on the lease and has the right to have a roommate (whether it be girlfriend/domestic partner/pal) and that person need not be on it.
September 24, 2011 6:01 PM - minard lafever
Snappy is right about that. Many people have moved into my building as a single but then brought in a boyfriend or girlfriend.
Have you checked University Towers Downtown? Not as nice as the Clinton Avenue towers but I don't think you need a broker, they have their own rental office.


September 24, 2011 6:04 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
I know! So I have to sit there and be mortified while they ask me all these personal questions and ask for screen shots of my pathetic checking account, and then ask me if I have any savings. It's been soul crushing.

i had to go to midtown manhattan once to be SCRUTINZED for a STUDIO apartment that i was SHARING WITH SOMEONE ELSE and it was 1500 dollars a month. i get the 40x rent rule (sorta) but that was absurd. we had to pay 2 months security instead of one to get a STUDIO IN HARLEM. we were well over the 40x rent rule btw. this was in morningside heights neigh Columbia U. and they "preferred" students. fuck that shit. upon moving into that buliding i was like wow we are not the most ghetto people here at ALL. there were people throwing diapers in the courtyard, peeing in the halls, etc. get the fuck out of here. move further up into manhattan only to find it 10x worse.

when i found that cragislist ad that one day for a dog friendly roommate i was like HELLS YEAH, i wAs seriously sick of living in the ghetto. whether it be moonface ghetto or ghetto-ghetto. it all sucks.


September 24, 2011 6:04 PM - rf
The buildings on Clinton Ave. are the Clinton Ave. coops. They are coops not rentals. One of us PLUSAs lives there.
September 24, 2011 6:08 PM - minard lafever
rf, thanks, I knew some of them were coops but thought that some were still rentals.

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September 24, 2011 6:08 PM - DeadCatBounce
CH, sympathize with your struggle with the brokers. When we were looking for rentals, Mrs DCB refused to look at anything with a broker fee. In hindsight I think that saved us a lot of aggravation, although it certainly limited the choices.
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September 24, 2011 6:12 PM - petebklyn
university towers is coop too... but sometimes there is one rented out.
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September 24, 2011 6:16 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i think, know, that CH and BH are going to find a kick ass apartment.

The Raven part of my brain says 2-3 (4) stops away, but maybe in a different direction or irrelevant.

- i see a small bit of outside space. enough for maybe 6-8 people.

- 2 closets

-1 one bathroom
cobble, dont be a dork, im pulling for you btw!!!!!

*rob*
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September 24, 2011 6:18 PM - DeadCatBounce
The good thing about renting in a condo or coop bldg is that they tend to be well maintained. There are oats rented out in my bldg in Crown Heights, but From what I've heard, the rents are pretty high.
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September 24, 2011 6:20 PM - rf
Most coops have a rule about how many years you can rent out your unit. Not sure if Cobble and BH want to go through this again in 2 years.
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September 24, 2011 6:21 PM - minard lafever
I'm sure that University Towers are rentals.
Or at least some of the buildings are.

September 24, 2011 6:23 PM - minard lafever
most coops have three-year limits, but the application process can take a while.
Not worth it if you are not at least somewhat interested in buying in the building at some point.

September 24, 2011 6:25 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Most coops have a rule about how many years you can rent out your unit.

eh, not really. it takes time and money to deal with that. when i had mu pitbull in a chelsea co-op i lol'd at the people who said "you dont belong here". er, okay. but someone owns an apartment and they are renting it out... get. a . LIFE!

*rob*

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September 24, 2011 6:28 PM - DeadCatBounce
My iPhone changed apts to "oats". There are no oats for rent in my bldg.
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September 24, 2011 6:30 PM - cobblehiller
DCB, How did you go about finding no fee apts? Craigslist? Padmapper? How long did it take you? We initially thought we would easily find a no fee place, but that turns out not to be so easy?
September 24, 2011 6:30 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
it's weird how snobbishness in co-ops and condos and be well snobbish but not racist. how is it NOT LIKE BEING RACIST?


things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

i think think people with condos and co-ops whould be doubley charges in taxes. they are the worst btw. not the REALLY rich people who do GIVE money into society. im talking about middle class crotchfruit who get to right EVERYTHING OFF. fuck them

maybe people should learn that dropping crotch is disgusting and costs people who dont want do that that MONEY!



*rob*

September 24, 2011 6:35 PM - DeadCatBounce
Cobble, mostly we used Craigslist. Also word of mouth. We knew we would be moving as our financial position improved so we weren't too fussy. Took about a month to find a place each time.
September 24, 2011 6:35 PM - minard lafever
NASA says their satellite fell in the ocean off Vancouver, but honestly, if it fell in Canada instead -who would know?

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September 24, 2011 7:12 PM - cobblehiller
Thanks, DCB.
September 24, 2011 7:29 PM - sixyearsandcounting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLx6ZeJNjmg
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September 24, 2011 7:45 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
lol that it fell in canada. if only it fell in one of those homogenous moonface neighnorhoods up there that HDTV loves to show show!!! canadian and french accents. gack. make me wanna drive a knive thru my own fucking face. i usually tell french-canadians = SHIT ON A STICK

*Rob*

September 24, 2011 9:19 PM - wendybear1
"There are no oats for rent in my bldg."
DCB, I find that oddly comforting...
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September 24, 2011 9:21 PM - wendybear1
We found our apt via CL, I think. We also found the broker we used to help us look in the UES and UWS on CL.

It certainly makes a good jumping off point.
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September 24, 2011 9:26 PM - rf
Hey, Wendy, how's the school year?
September 24, 2011 9:52 PM - Donatella

Hey Six years, that clip is pretty good, but I dare you to listen to this recording about a car accident that came from a radio station in Dallas without laughing. No, without laughing till you cry. Somebody sent it to me a while back........

http://www.cojoweb.com/audio_accident.html




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September 24, 2011 10:59 PM - wendybear1
"Hey, Wendy, how's the school year?"

So far, everything is going very well. I'm really enjoying working with the kids. Most of them are really motivated!
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September 25, 2011 12:40 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Most of them are really motivated!

to get pregnant by june lol

*rob*

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September 25, 2011 12:40 AM - gay smurf hoodlum
and before anyone starts hating on my commet, know it, it's troof.

*rob*

September 25, 2011 8:45 AM - dibs
Good morning. I have a new crew of Mexicans working in Bucks County and one is very hot!!!!
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September 25, 2011 8:48 AM - dibs
So how 'bout this Cain guy!!!!!!!!!! I think this is a game changer. Is America ready for its second black president!!!!!!????????


September 25, 2011 9:04 AM - cobblehiller
GM,

Interesting results of that Straw Poll. The Reuters piece noted that every winner of the Florida Straw Poll, since 1978 (?) has gone on to become the nominee.
September 25, 2011 9:19 AM - DeadCatBounce
Just went to the Cain web site. His programs were quite specific (for a politician) and sensible.
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September 25, 2011 9:35 AM - rf
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/25/opinion/sunday/why-rent-when-you-can-nest.html

A FRIEND of mine named Eugene who is 28 and an investment banker lives at home in Connecticut with his parents. He can afford to live on his own, but he doesn’t see the point. He’s putting the money he would have spent on rent toward co-ownership of a pizza restaurant. And when he wants to stretch his limbs, he drives to his girlfriend’s apartment.

Prolonged adolescence? Extended dependency? Neither. My friend, who was born in Russia and moved here as a child, is more future-focused than most American-born people his age. Chalk it up to culture. Ex-Soviets know how to survive in stagnant times. My Russian wife, after graduating from Cornell, moved in with her grandfather in Brooklyn; in this way she stretched the salary she made in one year as a paralegal for the three years it took her to write her first book.

I, on the other hand, celebrated my first job after graduation by promptly signing away half my take-home pay on a $1,250-a-month rental. I grew up with an unspoken assumption, just as my parents had, that I would live on my own after college. My parents shared that assumption; they sold their large house for a smaller apartment that was big enough only for the children to visit. I couldn’t have moved back even if I’d wanted to.

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September 25, 2011 9:43 AM - DeadCatBounce
RF, you make a good argument for prolonged dependency.


September 25, 2011 9:46 AM - rf
I am not making the argument, I am posting the article--the text is the first few paragraphs.
Discuss!
September 25, 2011 9:50 AM - rf
As the mother of a 15-year-old, I am not sure what I think. It does seem ridiculous that there's such a stigma against 20-somethings moving in with their parents when jobs are hard to find, salaries are low, and the arrangement can be mutually beneficial. Not forever, like in Italy (so I've read), but for a while, long enough for the kid to save some bucks and work her/his way up the economic ladder a bit.
September 25, 2011 9:54 AM - DeadCatBounce
OK, I read the whole article.
The author is out to lunch.
He confuses family values with dependency.
Immigrants coming to this country often have more ambition than US nationals because they come here seeking opportunity and freedom.
In that context, and for a motivated person, staying at home for awhile can be a stepping stone to a better future.
As a one size fits all, this is a road map for an endless handout and will never work
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September 25, 2011 9:57 AM - DeadCatBounce
By the way RF, I am the father of a 16 year old and a 13 year old.
And am pretty sure I will not get the parenting thing right.
And continually bend over backwards for my kids which is probably spoiling them terribly.
September 25, 2011 9:58 AM - rf
Can't wait to read what Rob says!
September 25, 2011 10:14 AM - Donatella
My brother has a house full of boys, one with his Masters degree (and no job) and two college students. He would never push his sons out of the nest. Ever. Those kids will leave themselves when they are ready. He will fault on the way of being "loving" to his mind. We are all dependent to some degree. At some point, my brother and his wife will be dependant. We glorify independance, when it is not our real nature.
September 25, 2011 10:15 AM - DeadCatBounce
I probably have a better shot at getting Herman Cain elected president than I do of raising my kids to have good jobs, good relationships and to be a caring, well adjusted member of society.
The non-parents often think they would be excellent at this stuff. Hahaha!!!!!

September 25, 2011 10:21 AM - rf
DCB, is that because you share childrearing with your ex? I guess I am about 3/4 the way there. The teen years are tough, but I can see the young adult my daughter is growing to be, and I am not so worried. Of course she wants no part of living with me as a young adult! But she is very sensible and I think that if she were a recent college grad, she would consider the ramifications of living independently but spending more than half her income on rent.
September 25, 2011 10:26 AM - Donatella
Rf: Of course she wants no part of living with me as a young adult!

See, THAT'S the key. I think every young person doing well in life is hardwired to want to get their own adult life started. Which is hard to do under the watchful eye of parents.
September 25, 2011 10:28 AM - cobblehiller
My father, a very staunch republican, when he was alive, used to look at his kids and say: "You have jobs, aren't on drugs, not in jail. I've done my job!" He also always told us that we could move back in with him at anytime. It was very touching, and helpful during a couple short (1-3 month) transitions.

My grandparents moved in with my gr.grandparents during the depression for awhile. I don't think they enjoyed it, but it was necessary at the time. Of course, they were living on Park Ave, so they weren't 'exactly' suffering! : P
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September 25, 2011 10:33 AM - DeadCatBounce
Are you a single Mom RF?

I think it is fine for a recent college grad to struggle.
Even better if they are so well prepared that they don't have to.

My kids live with their Mom but visit with me so she has far more influence.
Easy to blame her for any problems because she does not work, is extremely selfish and is anti-social.
But who knows? If the roles were reversed would I do better? Honestly, I am not so sure.

September 25, 2011 10:58 AM - rf
DCB, I am a single mom. I think my daughter will be able to graduate from college almost debt-free. But do you think it's realistic for a recent college grad to be able to support him/herself when jobs are so hard to find, beginning salaries are so low, and rents are so ridiculously high? I could see my daughter staying with me for a while to save for a down payment.
September 25, 2011 11:13 AM - petebklyn
back in olden day - kids didn't move out until married. If never married...never moved out. My father, child of immigrants, didn't move out until 36 years old...except for college and army. I think both his parents were dead already but anyone in the big family who wasn't married still lived in house.
September 25, 2011 11:25 AM - cobblehiller
At one point, in the late 60s, there were 4 generations living in my grandfather's (ridiculously large) house for a few months (maybe close to a year) when my uncle/their son came back from a job in Europe. It was my gr.grandmother + grandparents + my uncle & aunt + their 4 little kids.
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September 25, 2011 11:31 AM - jessibaby
RF, so long as you're still living in BK, no reason why your kid shouldnt live with you when she's first out of college if need be. It's the kids who choose to live out in the burbs with their parents, missing out on all of the fun city stuff for kids in their early 20s, that I think are making a bad call. As for your kid, she'll get free rent and still maximum fun, so long as no curfew :)
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September 25, 2011 11:35 AM - rf
Yet another reason that brooklyn is a good place to raise a kid.
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September 25, 2011 11:38 AM - MontroseMorris
I don't think it's a one size, fits all world. You also have to take into consideration the personalities and relationships of the parents and children, among a lot of other factors.

By the time I moved to NYC, my parents were divorced, and my brother was still in college. My first apt here was a room rental in the Bronx. I was taking home $95 a week, working at Saks, of which $60 went to the room. When my Mom decided she was too lonely rattling around upstate in our house by herself, she moved back to NYC, got a 2 bedroom, and I gladly moved in with her. She paid the rent, I paid the utilities and shared in the food costs. We were hardly rolling in dough.

We eventually moved to Brooklyn, and rented an entire Brownstone in Bed Stuy for $500 month. (1983) By this time, I had a much better job, and was able to contribute more. My Mom and I were roommates and friends. She didn't tell me what to do, and treated me like an adult. When she died, I lost my best friend, as well as a parent.

I have a lot of friends who deeply envied my relationship with her, as they could barely stand to spend holidays with their parents. Someone's relationships with their parents is key to whether or not they could live with them. Any parent who does not demand that their kid contribute, or treats their grown children like they are still 17 is asking for problems.

But we are spoiled. Multi-generational families under one roof are the norm for most of the world. It's only here that we race to escape the nest.
September 25, 2011 11:39 AM - jessibaby
Got into an altercation with a Hassid at Blue Bottle Coffee. Dude tried to cut the whole line and the counter person was about to take his order until I told her that I, and the seven people behind me, were in front of him. It's a shame this dude was trying to take advantage of people being afraid of calling him out.
September 25, 2011 11:44 AM - jessibaby
RF, does your daughter have any ideas about where she'd like to go to college yet?
September 25, 2011 12:05 PM - Arkady
JB- I've had several similar interactions w/ them - they are really incredibly self-important & I don't know why more people don't call them out on it. I was at an interment at a Jewish cemetery & 3 of those guys nearly threw me down a set of concrete stairs to get to a toilet & offered no apology when I resisted.
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September 25, 2011 12:06 PM - rf
Jessi, she did a summer program during which she stayed on campus at binghamton and she fell in love with the place. But she is just a sophomore so we have time. This year we are doing some drive-throughs of different kinds of campuses. Visiting a friend at Vassar next weekend.
September 25, 2011 12:23 PM - Donatella
Ugh, neighbor rings my bell to tell me about my car. Apparantly there was a multicar accident with injuries, ambulances etc. at 4am around the corner from me. My parked car participated. Side all smacked in. #@!%
September 25, 2011 12:30 PM - minard lafever
OMG Dona, that's awful!
Have you called the police for a report yet?
You should take photos and call your insurance too asap.
Sorry.
September 25, 2011 12:43 PM - Donatella
Minard, I just called the police and they have my license plate number as one of the damaged parked cars. The police report number isn't ready yet. Jeez. Well, I am hoping it is all up from here. It is my birthday today! And the sun is shining. And I am better off than the people who were injured. The number might be ready this evening so I can take care of everything. I am hoping that the insurance company just pays up for the damage and does not make me pay a deductible.
September 25, 2011 12:45 PM - petebklyn
If you are taking her up to P'keepsie - good place for lunch on Collegeview ave across from campus called Babycakes. And take in walkway over the hudson while you're there.
Easy access back to NYC from P'keepsie as metro-north goes there.
September 25, 2011 12:55 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
i really really really wanna dye my hair neon pink but i HATE that it's frowned upon in business settings :( if you owned a business, would you let your workers dye their hair any color they want? how is pink any different than brown? why is one color okay and the other isnt?

there is a bird in my alleyway right now that wont shut the fuck up. arp meep arp meep arp meep it keeps making annoying sounds!

*rob*

September 25, 2011 12:56 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Happy Birthday DonaT! Go party like a rockstar!
September 25, 2011 12:56 PM - Arkady
Oh, Dona, that's really rotten. And on your bday! Hope the rest of the day is happier & you've got sunshine for it at least.
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September 25, 2011 12:57 PM - minard lafever
Happy birthday Donna!
-Cars are fixable, don't give it too much worry.
September 25, 2011 12:59 PM - dibs
Sorry to hear about your car, dona.
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September 25, 2011 12:59 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
For DonaT...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVzIGMqRznk
Edited at September 25, 2011 12:59 PM
September 25, 2011 1:02 PM - dibs
Dona, too bad I'm out of town or I'd come over and we'd round up a few others and go out to celebrate your birthday
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September 25, 2011 1:06 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
RF: re living at home well into your 20s thing. im iffy on the subject as well. the summer after i graduated college i HAD to move back in with my grandparents. it was the worst first month EVER. then i got used to it and it was fine. i never brought friends over tho or anything like that, i think that should be the case. i lived there for 9 months. jobless the first 6 months. i honestly felt like my grandparents were being mad enablers. it took getting police and getting sent to the hospital to wake me up (literally). got out of the hospital and within 2 weeks found my first apartment in nyc, my first job (current job actually) and met some dude who was my boyfriend for like 5 years.

part of me wishes i stayed with my grandparents and saved up money.. but americans enjoy their freedoms, we are not europeans who stay living with their parents until they get married. also the fact that im gayish (i use gayish like people say jewish btw.)

i get so pissy at people, who if the shit hit the fan for them in nyc, they can just move back home. i dont have a "home". i mean well, i guess i do, if you consider "home" a section 8 community in south carolina. my grandmother was an idiot for moving down there. however, she seems VERY happy and her social security check goes a lot further than it would in jersey.

also i always noticed that most people who stay living at home with their parents into their 20s and 30s are complete dorks, i.e. they buy super expensive cars, dress flashy, and go out all the time. all that money they make (if they employed) to impress people with but at the end of the day people are like, dude you live with your mom..

*rob*

September 25, 2011 1:11 PM - petebklyn
yes Happy Birthday Donatella. At least you bicycle is safe.
Edited at September 25, 2011 1:11 PM
September 25, 2011 1:15 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
My brother has a house full of boys, one with his Masters degree (and no job) and two college students.

higher education is seriously pushed so hardcore on people these days. cant find a job? eh, just go to grad school. wtf you gonna learn in grad school in your mid 20s that you havent already learned? im very serious. University is a big business in the states, and it's getting outta hand, especially with government intervention and everyone taking out thousands of dollars in student loans. University is the next bubble to pop, fer sure.

I know SO many people who maxed out their student loans (free money twice a year, three times if you take summer classes) only to use that money on stuff that had nothing to do with college OR living expenses. but salliefucktard and mayMAEmay were always willing to give you your check each semester knowing you cant default on it and youre indebted for the rest of your life.

granted, i was an adult when i signed those promisary notes so i am NOT of the sect of people these days who think student loans should be eradicated and forgiven. would i love the government to bailout student loans? hells yeah. do i think they should? no. they actually arent that bad tho when you work with them and are very forgiving. if you cant make a montly payment they are very good that way.



*rob*

September 25, 2011 1:19 PM - Donatella
Thanks everyone. Snappy, that is a GREAT birthday video. They're all wearing crash helmets, which is funny. Yesterday, I really felt like I was pushing my luck with that car for some reason. I was meeting lunatics everywhere I went, people cutting me off, stalking me (ok, so I flipped the guy the bird), crazy scary drivers. Hey, at least I wasn't IN the car. Minard, you are right. It's a CAR.

Have fun everyone. And thanks for the birthday wishes!!!!
Edited at September 25, 2011 1:19 PM
September 25, 2011 1:22 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
It's the kids who choose to live out in the burbs with their parents, missing out on all of the fun city stuff for kids in their early 20s, that I think are making a bad call.

why? what are they missing out on exactly? granted i could never live out in the burbs cuz i NEED my 24 hour bodegas, but other than that the city doesnt offer any advantage really. you can still come into the city and experience it. fuck ive lived "in the city" for over 10 years now and it really bores me to tears. i dont take advantage of broadway shows, art, theatre, overpriced moonface restaurants, etc. what exactly does it have to offer? other than 24 hour bodegas? tho i do like the fact that i can walk outside and see people at any hour of the day or night. and not knowing how to drive, nyc is perfect for me. but for other people it might not be... i hate urban snobbery. and most of the people who are urban snobs arrived here last week falling off the back of a turnip truck anyway.

*rob*

Edited at September 25, 2011 1:22 PM
September 25, 2011 1:24 PM - dibs
7-11s are open 24 hours rob. You could live within walking distance of one anywhere in the US
September 25, 2011 1:27 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
Happy b-day donna :)

this video is for you (there's even cats!!!)

FYI: you're one of my favorite people in this Universe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47UplyBQK4Y

*rob*

Edited at September 25, 2011 1:27 PM
September 25, 2011 1:29 PM - minard lafever
rob, step away from the keyboard. take your poor dog out for a walk. It is a nice day.
I'm outta here too.

September 25, 2011 1:30 PM - jessibaby
Rob, I'm not talking about missing out on cultural stuff at all. When I was first out of college I went out every night of the week after work and had a ton of fun. Friends who were living with the parents went straight home and missed out on good times. Only young once, shame to miss it on account of a few bucks.
Edited at September 25, 2011 1:30 PM
September 25, 2011 1:32 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
7-11s are open 24 hours rob. You could live within walking distance of one anywhere in the US

i grew up in urban north jersey where you could walk to anything at any hour of the day, but i had friends in south jersey and you ALWAYS had to take a car to the sev.

i think THL lives there (right?) but Jersey City really IS a hidden gem. but maybe it should stay that way. oddly the rents there are on par with brooklyn (the gross parts of brooklyn) and on the waterfront are just as expensive as manhattan (annoying). i can see myself at some point moving back to jersey. i think the people are way more real than nyc (in general) also they are way hotter cuz we get too many flyover state inbred looking types in brooklyn.



*rob*

September 25, 2011 1:33 PM - jessibaby
Happy birthday DonaT.
September 25, 2011 1:35 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Rob, I'm not talking about missing out on cultural stuff at all. When I was first out of college I went out every night of the week after work and had a ton of fun. Friends who were living with the parents went straight home and missed out on good times. Only young once, shame to miss it on account of a few bucks.

ah, okay. that's true. i was the same way when i first moved to nyc. always something to do after work. 10 years later all i wanna do is pop open a 40 ounce and watch Survivor. oh well. yeah im a loser, but i admit it. most people in nyc pretend like they are not. besides i was able to afford to go out 10 years ago, these days? nope.


*rob*

September 25, 2011 1:35 PM - rf
Happy birthday Dona! Sorry about the car.
Edited at September 25, 2011 1:35 PM
September 25, 2011 1:35 PM - Donatella
*rob* that video ROCKS!!! Thank you so much!! !!!! And an FYI for you too my dear. I am getting that picture of you with the Ouija board framed!!!!!!!!!

Please go outside (and don't be mad at the birds chirping).
Something good is going to happen today. Remember they
come in threes!!!!
September 25, 2011 1:36 PM - Donatella
Tks, rf. I am not worrying about it, or the $$$, I am so done worrying. I am going outside now. Hope you are too.

See ya, thanks!!!!
September 25, 2011 1:37 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
rob, step away from the keyboard. take your poor dog out for a walk. It is a nice day.

:-/ would you tell a woman to go breastfeed her baby cuz it's hungry? dont be a dick, Minnie.

*rob*

September 25, 2011 1:38 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
im so glad you liked that video, donna :)

and minnie, duke was already walked twice today and we're headed to the park in a bit!

*rob*

September 25, 2011 1:40 PM - Donatella
Tks, Jessi. I am really gone now.

Bye. Good day all.
September 25, 2011 1:48 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
Please go outside (and don't be mad at the birds chirping).
Something good is going to happen today. Remember they
come in threes!!!!

now im visioning myself getting run over by a bus! lol (just kidding). maybe ill meet the man or woman (im not bi, but whatever) of my dreams in the park with Duke later?

to be fruitfully honest ive been hurting inside hardcore lately and im not sure what the reason is. scottish pride keeps me from talking to anyone about it. and the strong black woman inside of me just gives me the Whatevia look :-/

(that's her on the lower right hand corner)

*rob*

Edited at September 25, 2011 1:48 PM
September 25, 2011 1:49 PM - MontroseMorris
Late to the party, but Happy Birthday, Donatella! Go out and celebrate. Minard is right, it's only a car, and you weren't in it. The sun is shining, everyone is out (I've been to Manhattan and back today) and all is well for a day. Enjoy!
September 25, 2011 1:59 PM - jessibaby
Rob, let's get back to the gayish self-identifier. You compared it to being Jewish, which to me, means being culturally Jewish, but not at all religious. Same for you? Embracing the gay culture but not the physical stuff? And if yes, what defines gay culture? Something akin to latkes and summer camp?
Edited at September 25, 2011 1:59 PM
September 25, 2011 2:03 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
You compared it to being Jewish, which to me, means being culturally Jewish, but not at all religious. Same for you? Embracing the gay culture but not the physical stuff?

totes, jessi. im gayish not a gay. must like people are jewish and not a jew. i practice the gayish things, but not the hardcore things., you know what i mean?

*rob*

September 25, 2011 2:08 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
gay things i do: take out the trash multiple times a day, wipe down the floors, giggle on the train at cankle spaniels (i.e. fugly white chicks from the midwest), and lisp here and there.

gay things i don't do: sleep around, do crystal meth, whine that HIV drugs are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO expensive, and pattern shit.
Edited at September 25, 2011 2:08 PM
September 25, 2011 2:12 PM - jessibaby
Got it. And I can't believe you're still inside after minard specifically told you to get out of the house.
Edited at September 25, 2011 2:12 PM
September 25, 2011 2:14 PM - Legion
"... oh well. yeah im a loser, but i admit it. most people in nyc pretend like they are not."

*rob*
You are not a loser since you've been out on your own since you left college.
You are a self-made individual in that respect and that's more than many people can say out there.

I too have an inherently negative reaction to annoying people living off of their parents to a degree that is more than reasonable.

Sorry, but if someone is 30 years old and living with their parents for an extended period with no other prospects, they've failed in some way or another.

That wouldn't be so bad even, if it weren't for the fact that many losers act like they are the cat's meow despite living on mommy/daddy money.
The switch inside their head that says:
"hummm, maybe I should be doing something on my own"
never seems to go off.

It's true that in many cultures around the world, it's the norm for three generations to live under one roof with "junior's" underwear hanging in the shower while grandma cooks stew in the kitchen and the grandkids are running around with a snake as a pet.
Here in the US, the standard of living has increased to the level where that is not the accepted norm any longer.

I think perhaps, our nation is just in the process of lowering its expectations and "defining down" so to speak.
I suppose there could be worse fates than living off one's parents, but to say it's a sign of any kind of success is a non-starter in my book.
September 25, 2011 2:15 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote"
. And I can't believe you're still inside after minard specifically told you to get out of the house.

.im taking Duke to the park at 3pm.

*harriet tubman*
September 25, 2011 2:19 PM - Legion
By the way,
there's a new television series aimed straight at making *rob*
cringe,
it's called "BROKE GIRLS",
and it follows the trials and tribulations of two young girls from who knows where, making it through hard times in the city.

...here's a suggestion for another TV program for the television producers out there:
"Smelly T-Shirt Guys",
a program which follows the trials and tribulations of 40-something year old men living in momma's apartment with attitudes out of proportion to their station in life.
September 25, 2011 2:23 PM - Legion
Happy Birthday Donatella,
my fellow Libran. :o)

...by last count,
I believe there were quite a few Libras in the OT.
September 25, 2011 2:25 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
there's a new television series aimed straight at making *rob*
cringe,
it's called "BROKE GIRLS",
and it follows the trials and tribulations of two young girls from who knows where, making it through hard times in the city.

LMFAO i defaced the subway ads for that stupid show (should i be saying that??) i always have sharpies on my person.

here is some music from a time that ruined everything but doesnt get the blame...
there's a new television series aimed straight at making *rob*
cringe,
it's called "BROKE GIRLS",
and it follows the trials and tribulations of two young girls from who knows where, making it through hard times in the city.

here, blow me.
just as lame.
white people et5po853o58i3o583o5355

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKPMC8jZfoM

black people too are just as lame

*rob*

September 25, 2011 2:27 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
...here's a suggestion for another TV program for the television producers out there:
"Smelly T-Shirt Guys",
a program which follows the trials and tribulations of 40-something year old men living in momma's apartment with attitudes out of proportion to their station in life.

.
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! see brooklyn in 10 years

*rob*

September 25, 2011 2:28 PM - DeadCatBounce
I LIKE that TV idea, Legion. Think I would shorten the title to "T Shirt Guys". Other wise. , it's a hit.
Setting up ouch meeting with studio execs. What day is good for you?
Edited at September 25, 2011 2:28 PM
September 25, 2011 2:30 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
...by last count,
I believe there were quite a few Libras in the OT.

i got lots of flack for leaving that sign out :-/ Libra is my Moon sign btw.
//chanelling//

smelly old people. trash bins. a hi-5 with a relative.

*rob*
Edited at September 25, 2011 2:30 PM
September 25, 2011 2:31 PM - DeadCatBounce
Screw the iPhone. I typed "pitch" meeting!
Edited at September 25, 2011 2:31 PM
September 25, 2011 2:32 PM - Legion
*rob*

wait,
on the 20th anniversary of Nirvana's epic
Smells Like Teen Spirit
we must post the original so as not to confuse
that techno version with anything close to the real thing;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKbfoikeg&ob=av3e
September 25, 2011 2:34 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
if anyone wants a perasonal reading, they are free..

*rob*

September 25, 2011 2:34 PM - Legion
DCB,
I've got a million ideas for TV shows based in NYC,

here's another:

Angry Cashiers
A show centered around the trials and tribulations of cashiers in Brooklyn and why they are angry.
September 25, 2011 2:36 PM - Legion
...or how about,
The Mr. Softee Chronicles
which follows an Ice Cream truck operator around his dutiful rounds through various neighborhoods in Brooklyn and the assortment of characters he meets along the way.

This is a spin-off of Dirty T-Shirt Guys.
September 25, 2011 2:37 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
thanks for that video, leg! my ex ( a total dork) ran away the day kurt killed himself.

*rob*

September 25, 2011 2:39 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
and he was an adult!

*rob*

September 25, 2011 2:41 PM - Arkady
Angry Cashiers has to be tied w/ a companion show about workers at nail salons.
September 25, 2011 2:42 PM - Legion
wow,
where did he run away to *rob*?

...it hit people hard,
like the Michale Jackson death.
In his case, he was self-destructing in slow motion.
September 25, 2011 2:47 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
...by last count,
I believe there were quite a few Libras in the OT.

.http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qv96yJYhk3M
September 25, 2011 2:48 PM - Legion
arkady,

Are the nail salon workers surly?
I've never been to one of those nail salons
but I see some streets where there are like 3 in a row!


What's up with that?
Edited at September 25, 2011 2:48 PM
September 25, 2011 2:55 PM - Arkady
I've never been to one, either, but there's a definite relationship between angry cashiers & the length of their fingernails so salons must have a symbiotic tie to them.
Edited at September 25, 2011 2:55 PM
September 25, 2011 3:01 PM - DeadCatBounce
The "Angry Cashiers" is another winner.
The ice cream truck one is lame and the nail salon is a total non-starter.
If you are the creator of a TV show yopu get a residual payment anytime any episode of that show is broadcast anywhere!
Beats working!


Edited at September 25, 2011 3:01 PM
September 25, 2011 3:01 PM - Legion
te he he,

Believe it or not,
some parents are planning girls parties around trips to nail salons for manicures and pedicures.
I'm talking at age 4-5!

My wife and I declined an invite for littlegirllegion.
I wouldn't trust them to sterilize the instruments properly.
I guess I could understand 14 or 15 year olds,
but girls in kindergarden? No.
Edited at September 25, 2011 3:01 PM
September 25, 2011 3:07 PM - Legion
...talk to you guys later,
gotta go shopping and stuff.

Maybe I'll get a manicure just to see what that's
all about. ;o)
Edited at September 25, 2011 3:07 PM
September 25, 2011 3:15 PM - jessibaby
Arkady , you've never once had a manicure? How about a pedicure?
September 25, 2011 3:20 PM - Arkady
I had a manicure once about 20 years ago but it was at a hairdresser's, not a nail salon. Never had a pedi.
Edited at September 25, 2011 3:20 PM
September 25, 2011 3:34 PM - jessibaby
Yeah. There's definitely something weird about getting your nails done, especially the toenails. High up on your chair while someone picks the dead skin off of your feet.
Edited at September 25, 2011 3:34 PM
September 25, 2011 3:47 PM - jessibaby
A lot of dudes in Ghana had really long nails on their right hands. This was to show they were professionals and didn't work on a farm ( the nails on the left hand remained short, for purposes of butt wiping).
September 25, 2011 4:04 PM - Arkady
When I was in 6th grade we read about Chinese silk workers who filed their nails into combs to work the silk & it was a fad for a few months among both boys & girls until someone scratched another person w/ those really sharp talons.
Edited at September 25, 2011 4:04 PM
September 25, 2011 4:05 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
it's icky and humid outside :-( but, the iced apple cider from dunkin donuts is totally drinkable!
September 25, 2011 5:54 PM - minard lafever
vent du jour: I was told by my pharmacist that the medicine I have used off and on for ten years has been banned by the FDA. It is a generic medicine that pre-dates the FDA and so never went through all the tests -but people have been using it since forever. Alright, now instead, there is a new medicine. basically the same exact thing, but no longer generic, the cost has gone from 9 cents a pill to $4.75 a pill. For the same thing. a bottle of 30 pills now costs $142.50! A bottle of fifty used to cost $5.00. Is it any wonder that most people feel the federal government is working against their interests? What other democratic country in the world is insane enough to do that?
Edited at September 25, 2011 5:54 PM
September 25, 2011 5:56 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Minard, get thee to Target! A lot of generic meds only cost $4 for a 30 day supply, $9 or $10 for a 90 day supply. Check the list here...

http://tinyurl.com/4yd3mvt
September 25, 2011 5:56 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Oh, and if the generic no longer exists, they will give you a discount on the name brand. Always cheaper than what other pharmacies charge.
September 25, 2011 6:06 PM - minard lafever
snappy, this is an insane thing. The FDA banned the generic. The generic is now illegal to sell in the US.
I suppose because who would buy the new more expensive medicine if they had a generic alternative? No one was profiting from the old medicine.
It is a prescription drug. I have a drug plan that covers the cost but a lot of people have to pay out of pocket. There is a coupon or something if you can prove you fall below the poverty line......thank goodness for that anyway.

September 25, 2011 6:09 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Ah, yes. The Bridges to Access program. That helps out a lot of people. There must be something different about the new name brand...chemical formulation or something or else that wouldn't be available either. And unfortunately, it will be ten years before the patent runs out on the new name brand version for a generic to appear.
September 25, 2011 6:11 PM - Arkady
Something about that doesn't compute, minard. It's usually big-pharma that is responsible for that kind of thing, not FDA. I'd track down more info - I think maybe your pharmacist is misguided.
Edited at September 25, 2011 6:11 PM
September 25, 2011 6:14 PM - minard lafever
Snappy -that's right! No wonder people go to Canada to buy prescription drugs.
Edited at September 25, 2011 6:14 PM
September 25, 2011 6:21 PM - minard lafever
ardady, you're right, it is big-pharma in cahoots with the FDA, that is what pisses me off.
The FDA says they have taken the "untested" generic off the market -but it has been tested for a hundred years by millions of people. Big-pharma must have said: look, we won't make the new stuff unless you ban the old stuff. Simple as that. No mystery.

September 25, 2011 7:07 PM - cobblehiller
Or Mexico. I was very surprised that one could buy some of what would be by prescription only drugs over-the-counter there.

In Jamaica, you can get a full course of antibiotic (Zithromax pack equivalent) for the equivalent of about $3.50 US. You still need a prescription, but without insurance! I was pretty surprised.
September 25, 2011 7:14 PM - minard lafever
I was at the street fairs today again in Little Italy with Friends.
I had not been in years but they are fun. A nice day too.
I hope you enjoyed your day of rest Cobble.
September 25, 2011 7:45 PM - cobblehiller
I did, thank you, Minard. Things are looking a tad bit brighter today. : )

Glad the rain held off today.
September 25, 2011 8:01 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
VH1Classics is about to air Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Oh, how I loved that movie! And showing Jennifer Jason Leigh's boobies greatly influenced my affection for the film :-)
September 25, 2011 8:16 PM - wendybear1
I used to teach at the school where parts of the movie were filmed. I think I had one of the classrooms shown, even.
September 25, 2011 8:22 PM - cobblehiller
Snaps, BH says to tell you that we have the DVD, in case you wanna borrow it! ; )
September 25, 2011 8:28 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Cobbly, LOL! I just realized I need to add it to my dvd collection...found it on Amazon.com for 1.98 :-)
September 25, 2011 8:28 PM - cobblehiller
Excellent price! I'll let BH know there is resale value! : P
Edited at September 25, 2011 8:28 PM
September 25, 2011 8:29 PM - cobblehiller
Btw, we're prolly gonna have to sell the deck furniture. Whaddaya think is the best way to sell it? Craigslist? Brownstoner Forum? It's Smith Hawkin and LLBean stuff...pretty well built. Can I get even half what I paid for it?
September 25, 2011 8:33 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
I think 'Stoner might do you better than CL. Folks there may be more likely to appreciate the brands. By the way, have you cleared this with Cargar? Does he know you are selling his tent furnishings??? :-)
September 25, 2011 8:34 PM - cobblehiller
SHHHHHH!!! He doesn't know yet! ; ) I think you may be right about the brand thing. Maybe eBay, too? I know some compulsive eBay users.


September 25, 2011 8:37 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
If you do local pickup only, ebay could work.

Better hope Cargar doesn't see this!
September 25, 2011 8:37 PM - cobblehiller
I wonder if the person I work for wants it for her country house? I'll give her a good deal! ; )
September 25, 2011 8:37 PM - petebklyn
minard, you are doing a knee-jerk reaction based on what 1 person said.
without even telling us what the med is or doing research on what or why happened....seems just what to vent and not fact find.
Edited at September 25, 2011 8:37 PM
September 25, 2011 8:37 PM - cobblehiller
Right, the shipping cost would negate the whole deal.
September 25, 2011 8:40 PM - cobblehiller
Pete, I think Minard prefaced this by saying he wanted to vent.
September 25, 2011 8:40 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
A lot of dudes in Ghana had really long nails on their right hands. This was to show they were professionals and didn't work on a farm ( the nails on the left hand remained short, for purposes of butt wiping).

guh-ROSS!!! and people wonder why they are considered third world!?!

*rob*

September 25, 2011 8:42 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Every country house needs deck furniture Cobble! :-)
September 25, 2011 8:43 PM - cobblehiller
That's what I'm sayin', Snaps! : P
September 25, 2011 8:47 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
, it is big-pharma in cahoots with the FDA, that is what pisses me off.
The FDA says they have taken the "untested" generic off the market -but it has been tested for a hundred years by millions of people. Big-pharma must have said: look, we won't make the new stuff unless you ban the old stuff. Simple as that. No mystery.

.so what. people make a product and want to make money off it. i find it highlly ironic the same people who bitch and moan about expensive medicine have no problem with expensive ice cream and other moonface products.
since when is medicine a basic right? it shouldnt be. if people can get free drugs (medicine) then people should be able to get free 10 dollar a scoop ice cream. oh wait... hmmm

i also want a free apartment. and i want my dog to have free vet. free free free!!! it's my basic rights.scrubs

*rob*

September 25, 2011 8:52 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
quote:
There is a coupon or something if you can prove you fall below the poverty line......thank goodness for that anyway.

fuck that. so someone making 17K a year gets free shit but someone making 20K has to pay for everything. oh wait, but if you make 20K and shit out a kid you qualify. you can even make 30K if you shiat out 2 kids. :-/

*rob*

September 25, 2011 8:55 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Hey Cobble, any idea other than Amazon where I might find used movies for sale? I'm drawing a blank right now.
September 25, 2011 9:00 PM - cobblehiller
eBay? I'll go ask BH, he might know.
September 25, 2011 9:01 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
oy...with Ebay I'd need paypal though, right? Hate that!
Edited at September 25, 2011 9:01 PM
September 25, 2011 9:02 PM - cobblehiller
BH can't think of the name of the place right now, he knows they sell used CDs, but not sure if they sell DVDs. He says he'll tell me tomorrow.

Is there something in particular that you're looking for?
September 25, 2011 9:04 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Nothing in particular, Cobble. Just nosing around the net to see if there's any rival for Amazon.com. Tell BH thanks in advance!
September 25, 2011 9:04 PM - cobblehiller
Yes, I think you need a PayPal acct unless you can use CC now. I haven't used it in awhile. If I could think of my account Login and PW, I'd check!
September 25, 2011 9:06 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
LOL! I'll nose around Ebay and see if there are any sellers who take debit/credit cards. Danke!
September 25, 2011 9:12 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
ugh i hate sunday nights

*rob*

September 25, 2011 9:12 PM - cobblehiller
I just checked, you can use a debit/credit card, not just PayPal.
September 25, 2011 9:15 PM - cobblehiller
Just think, Rob, tomorrow is an opportunity to earn money.

Nite all. : )
Edited at September 25, 2011 9:16 PM
September 25, 2011 9:16 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Augh! After a quick glance, their prices seem to be higher than the used ones on Amazon!
September 25, 2011 9:17 PM - cobblehiller
Lemme find out tomorrow from BH what place he's thinking of for you.
September 25, 2011 9:19 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Thanks, sounds good! Now I need to get off my tushie and put out the trash and recycling...

I DON'T WANNA GET UP!
September 25, 2011 9:35 PM - Arkady
Just go out in your p.j.s! No need to get tarted up to put out the rubbish!
September 25, 2011 9:39 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
oh, pj's was a given! i don't get dressed to take out the trash. after all these years, all of (redacted street name!) have seen my night wear and my hair looking CRAZY :-)
Edited at September 25, 2011 9:39 PM
September 25, 2011 9:40 PM - Arkady
Well, you might fade into the background & not be so obvious if you didn't pour glitter all over yourself just to maintain the Glitter Goddess persona.
Edited at September 25, 2011 9:40 PM
September 25, 2011 9:42 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
tee hee :-) but i'm always glittery!
Edited at September 25, 2011 9:42 PM
September 25, 2011 9:43 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
can't help it!
September 25, 2011 9:45 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
OMG! LOOK!

http://tinyurl.com/3tayryw
Edited at September 25, 2011 9:45 PM
September 25, 2011 9:46 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
AND LOOK AT ALL THE COLOR OPTIONS!!!! GAHHHHH!

MUST HAVE!

http://krylon.com/products/glitter_blast
Edited at September 25, 2011 9:46 PM
September 25, 2011 9:49 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Gonna have a heart attack! They have a spray for CLOTHES!!!

http://krylon.com/products/glitter_spray
September 25, 2011 9:49 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
so im trolling youtube looking up female rap videos and this pops up LMFAO.

the herpes song!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqkfGXoqh2g

*rob*

Edited at September 25, 2011 9:49 PM
September 25, 2011 9:51 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
lol snappy, im sorry, you know i love you, but im picturing you taking out your trash right now and scaring the hell out of people hahahah

*rob*

September 25, 2011 10:04 PM - Arkady
OMG, rob! That's amazing!
Snaps - If you order some I want some too!
September 25, 2011 10:09 PM - minard lafever
Did anyone watch the season premier of Boardwalk Empire?
Recognize the restaurant where the special agent took his wife and later raided?
Hmmmm?
Gage and Tollner! looking perfect, like I remember it when it was still a nice restaurant.
Nite all!

September 25, 2011 10:14 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Order? ORDER? C'mon...you know me! I'm already looking on their website for the list of local retailers so I can GO GET IT! I'm an instant gratification kinda girl :-)
September 25, 2011 10:33 PM - Arkady
But you work such hours that you won't be able to get it until the weekend anyway so you may as well order it.
Edited at September 25, 2011 10:33 PM
September 25, 2011 10:36 PM - gay smurf hoodlum
delete this if you want... but i think donna has been acting as gerry jewel, Blair's retarded cousin on facts of life lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF5Z9xcGL6k&feature=related

*rob*
September 25, 2011 10:39 PM - InsertSnappyNameHere
Even with working, I can still go get it faster. Strict rules re shipping aerosols will force it to be ground shipped from start to finish, so it wouldn't arrive before next weekend anyway.
September 25, 2011 11:27 PM - Arkady
Depends where it's coming from - those sparkle candles I got arrived in 2 days - UPS Ground.
Edited at September 25, 2011 11:27 PM